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(02-18-2018 11:15 AM)cubucks Wrote:  I know we always talk 2023-24 as when realignment happens again. Really interesting when an AD says these things. Could be nothing but thought I'd share.

The state of TCU and Big 12

For all the wonders that stadium expansions can do for a college football program, Donati said TCU fans shouldn’t be caught off guard if the university ends up switching conferences again when the next wave of realignment occurs.

“I get asked all the time about conference expansion and realignment in 2024 and will this stadium expansion guarantee we’ll stay in the Big 12 Conference?” Donati said. “The answer is no, there are no guarantees.”

https://www.diehards.com/tcu/tcu-ad-addr...-expansion

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Whether TCU is worthy is irrelevant.

Assuming TX/OU (or some combo thereof) leaves the XII, the question then becomes not whether the remaining schools are "worthy" of being in another power conference, it's whether they add enough VALUE to make said conference more money.

I don't see them adding enough value to the ACC, SEC, or B1G media contracts to warrant an invite. The PAC maybe, but that will all depend on what direction they decide to go.

(02-19-2018 09:06 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(02-18-2018 11:15 AM)cubucks Wrote:  I know we always talk 2023-24 as when realignment happens again. Really interesting when an AD says these things. Could be nothing but thought I'd share.

The state of TCU and Big 12

For all the wonders that stadium expansions can do for a college football program, Donati said TCU fans shouldn’t be caught off guard if the university ends up switching conferences again when the next wave of realignment occurs.

“I get asked all the time about conference expansion and realignment in 2024 and will this stadium expansion guarantee we’ll stay in the Big 12 Conference?” Donati said. “The answer is no, there are no guarantees.”

https://www.diehards.com/tcu/tcu-ad-addr...-expansion

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Whether TCU is worthy is irrelevant.

Assuming TX/OU (or some combo thereof) leaves the XII, the question then becomes not whether the remaining schools are "worthy" of being in another power conference, it's whether they add enough VALUE to make said conference more money.

I don't see them adding enough value to the ACC, SEC, or B1G media contracts to warrant an invite. The PAC maybe, but that will all depend on what direction they decide to go.

This. What TCU brings is decent athletics and the FW market. The SEC really wants OK, and will probably have to take OSU to get it. If the get Texas too, they probably have to take Tech. On the other hand, if OK is not attached to OSU (unlikely), the SEC may

1) Stay at 15 (14 schools to play not counting yourself; 4 permanent, 5 rotating get through the whole league every four years H-H).

2) Take just Texas if they can.

3) Take Kansas for the bball/AAU status, Missouri rival, etc.

4) Take TCU.

5) Take Iowa State (?) with their AAU status and great fan base.

6) Take 3 more from Texas/Tech/TCU/Kansas/Iowa State/OK State

So not impossible for TCU to get into the SEC, but more likely as the even number partner. OK/OK State/Kansas/TCU would be a very solid set, assuming that the SEC knew that they could not grab Texas and that they could not shake loose any ACC schools in the 30s.

If they think they can grab ACC schools later, then minimal expansion is the best option, as UNC/Clemson/VT/FSU type schools would be a better grab than Kansas/TCU/Iowa State.

So the most likely result really is OK/State to the SEC and stop at 16. But an 18 team push really does help TCU.

I'd say most likely is moving to the PAC/ACC with Texas/Tech in some capacity. Second most likely is SEC in a larger expansion. Third most likely is all this is for not, and in 2024, the Big 12 survives with OK and Texas and some expansion teams.

I could see a Texas/Texas Tech/TCU/plus a project (Colorado St, New Mexico, UNLV) to the PAC-12.

(02-19-2018 02:31 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  I could see a Texas/Texas Tech/TCU/plus a project (Colorado St, New Mexico, UNLV) to the PAC-12.

You don’t understand the Pac12.

If I'm an official at TCU I would already be formulating a strategy to handle post-Sooner/Longhorn Big 12 affairs. They need to determine whether or not they would be willing to let Texas be a non-football member and if so, under what terms. It'd also be wise to determine how large they want the league to be and who their preferred expansion candidates are so that they can move quickly when the time comes.

Let's say the Texoma 4 pack goes to the PAC

I think TCU gets a strong look from the SEC to increase presence in DFW and add a quality program. Grab WVU for the east and call it a day

You're not biased at all either. TCU would be way more likely to go to the ACC than SEC. And they aren't getting into the ACC unless the conference splits in half or something.

Much can and will change between now and 2023. Right now, we can only speculate based on the current facts. Those can and will change before the next round of realignment occurs. Lets see what the FBS landscape looks like in 3 more years, after 2020. I think we will have a better understanding of the dynamics that will drive the next round of alignment.

(02-19-2018 05:55 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  You're not biased at all either. TCU would be way more likely to go to the ACC than SEC. And they aren't getting into the ACC unless the conference splits in half or something.

If the ACC split in half, boy that'd be interesting.
Talk about a wrench in the gears of super-conferences.

Tex finshed #1 in revenue, Okla finshed #6
why on God's green earth would they even considered the Pac 12
the B-12 can solve thier promlems
conf network & footprint are fixable

(02-19-2018 09:18 PM)McKinney Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 05:55 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  You're not biased at all either. TCU would be way more likely to go to the ACC than SEC. And they aren't getting into the ACC unless the conference splits in half or something.

If the ACC split in half, boy that'd be interesting.
Talk about a wrench in the gears of super-conferences.

It should, it's gotten away from its roots. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Virginia and Carolina schools split off again along with Georgia Tech and maybe Florida State.

(02-20-2018 03:44 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 09:18 PM)McKinney Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 05:55 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  You're not biased at all either. TCU would be way more likely to go to the ACC than SEC. And they aren't getting into the ACC unless the conference splits in half or something.

If the ACC split in half, boy that'd be interesting.
Talk about a wrench in the gears of super-conferences.

It should, it's gotten away from its roots. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Virginia and Carolina schools split off again along with Georgia Tech and maybe Florida State.

And just where do you think the split off schools would go?
I can assure you that it won't be the SEC.

basketball conf
NC
Duke
Va
Syc
ND
Conn
Buffalo
Bos Coll
Pitt

(02-20-2018 05:28 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 03:44 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 09:18 PM)McKinney Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 05:55 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  You're not biased at all either. TCU would be way more likely to go to the ACC than SEC. And they aren't getting into the ACC unless the conference splits in half or something.

If the ACC split in half, boy that'd be interesting.
Talk about a wrench in the gears of super-conferences.

It should, it's gotten away from its roots. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Virginia and Carolina schools split off again along with Georgia Tech and maybe Florida State.

And just where do you think the split off schools would go?
I can assure you that it won't be the SEC.

They'd obviously start their own conference. All of these conferences will that overexpanded. Except maybe the B1G.

(02-20-2018 09:58 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  basketball conf
NC
Duke
Va
Syc
ND
Conn <--
Buffalo <--
Bos Coll
Pitt

One of these things just doesn't belong here...
(Well, maybe two...)

UConn won a national title less than 5 years ago and been to the Tournament more recently, they belong on that list.

(02-19-2018 09:56 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  Tex finshed #1 in revenue, Okla finshed #6
why on God's green earth would they even considered the Pac 12
the B-12 can solve thier promlems
conf network & footprint are fixable

Not with the longhorn network

LHN would be quesa conf network, arange paperwork so it fits

Perhaps when one of these situations plays out, Rice will finally be asked to step up to what's left, that is, if they can get their act together.