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RE: back-to-back road wins in conference...
(02-26-2018 08:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2018 04:55 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 10:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 08:40 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  That's the thing. Not doing anything doesn't cost the boosters a penny (pun intended) so there is no sense of urgency on their part to do anything. Not doing anything right now will cost the school between $10-20 million in lost ticket revenue and the 800k payout. If you fire Tubby and he takes on another job that pays $1 million, then you have a net gain by merely getting the Grizzlies money for attendance.

It is a huge risk from a coaching and operations standpoint to hire Penny. At $1 million per season it is an absolute no brainer for the first 2 seasons at least.

When it gets down to the nitty gritty, two things stand out. One, how will Penny react if he has adversity on the recruiting trail? How does he react if his top 10 targets don't follow him to Memphis for some reason or another?

Two, who would he bring on as assistants? IF Penny hires one assistant that is at the same level as Pastner, Kenny Payne or Stoudamire, and another assistant with experience at the head coaching level who is good with X's and O's, he would have a fighting chance.

The main thing to consider is that hiring Penny will increase revenue from ticket sales and the Grizzlies payoff by at least $10 million next season and probably a lot more than that. That is IPF money that we can't afford to be without.

I like all of this. However, I wonder how many HC's would be interested in coming to assist a rookie HC who is, in essence, Memphis' science experiment. The money we would have to offer the AC's wouldn't be huge, I wouldn't think, so it might be tough to draw someone like Damon.
I'll be curious to see how Tony Madlock responds to the challenge at Ole Mrs. this spring. Missouri, Kentucky and Tennessee are his first 3 opponents as a HC (acting). He might make a fine (and affordable) lead AC for Memphis.

I don't know who's out there. I'm saying that if we could get the caliber of assistant that Pastner and Stoudamire were when they were assistants or someone comparable to Payne, it would be great. Madlock's name has been brought up a lot over the years. Maybe he would be viable to a Memphian as an assistant.

Is there still a 90% chance Tubby gets canned?

Wasn’t it a “must” that we finish in the top 100 RPI? (95 now)

What about Tubby never finishing over .500 in conference? (9-7, most likely 11-7)

Finish in the top 100 of the RPI and bring in a strong class and I have to grudgingly agree that Tubby should be back. Tubby has done the bare minimum and has probably managed to keep his job. I'm sure we are all looking forward to another year of this.

Good for us.

I want to see how recruiting closes. If Tubby pulls a rabbit or two out of his hat...
02-26-2018 09:12 AM
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RE: back-to-back road wins in conference...
(02-26-2018 08:57 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-26-2018 04:55 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 10:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 08:40 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  That's the thing. Not doing anything doesn't cost the boosters a penny (pun intended) so there is no sense of urgency on their part to do anything. Not doing anything right now will cost the school between $10-20 million in lost ticket revenue and the 800k payout. If you fire Tubby and he takes on another job that pays $1 million, then you have a net gain by merely getting the Grizzlies money for attendance.

It is a huge risk from a coaching and operations standpoint to hire Penny. At $1 million per season it is an absolute no brainer for the first 2 seasons at least.

When it gets down to the nitty gritty, two things stand out. One, how will Penny react if he has adversity on the recruiting trail? How does he react if his top 10 targets don't follow him to Memphis for some reason or another?

Two, who would he bring on as assistants? IF Penny hires one assistant that is at the same level as Pastner, Kenny Payne or Stoudamire, and another assistant with experience at the head coaching level who is good with X's and O's, he would have a fighting chance.

The main thing to consider is that hiring Penny will increase revenue from ticket sales and the Grizzlies payoff by at least $10 million next season and probably a lot more than that. That is IPF money that we can't afford to be without.

I like all of this. However, I wonder how many HC's would be interested in coming to assist a rookie HC who is, in essence, Memphis' science experiment. The money we would have to offer the AC's wouldn't be huge, I wouldn't think, so it might be tough to draw someone like Damon.
I'll be curious to see how Tony Madlock responds to the challenge at Ole Mrs. this spring. Missouri, Kentucky and Tennessee are his first 3 opponents as a HC (acting). He might make a fine (and affordable) lead AC for Memphis.

I don't know who's out there. I'm saying that if we could get the caliber of assistant that Pastner and Stoudamire were when they were assistants or someone comparable to Payne, it would be great. Madlock's name has been brought up a lot over the years. Maybe he would be viable to a Memphian as an assistant.

Is there still a 90% chance Tubby gets canned?

Wasn’t it a “must” that we finish in the top 100 RPI? (95 now)

What about Tubby never finishing over .500 in conference? (9-7, most likely 11-7)

Finish in the top 100 of the RPI and bring in a strong class and I have to grudgingly agree that Tubby should be back. Tubby has done the bare minimum and has probably managed to keep his job. I'm sure we are all looking forward to another year of this.

Good for us.

I swear that guy looks at this years team like they are the 07-08 Tigers. He probably thinks this years team is better too.
02-26-2018 09:20 AM
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