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Dukes are 5-4 since starting the season 0-6. They have won three of their last four games with needing only one more shot to fall in regulation to beat COC last week and make it four in a row. They have lost six conference games in the last two minutes. Several of the losses on the last possession. They have also won five games the same way.

The next three games are very winnable ones. I believe JMU is better than UD and Elon is struggling right now. A win against Hofstra on Senior night would be a good start to the weekend. Win all three and JMU likely finishes out of the Keener round.

This team has started to win its share of close games. The deer in the headlights look is going away. I see them being more aggressive down the stretch avoiding the play not to lose mentality.

A strong finish this weekend should boost player confidence even more. These guys are ballers. I can’t imagine any of the top teams in the CAA want JMU on their side of the bracket. This team is getting better and wiser as the season goes on.
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(02-19-2018 09:23 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  Dukes are 5-4 since starting the season 0-6. They have won three of their last four games with needing only one more shot to fall in regulation to beat COC last week and make it four in a row. They have lost six conference games in the last two minutes. Several of the losses on the last possession. They have also won five games the same way.

The next three games are very winnable ones. I believe JMU is better than UD and Elon is struggling right now. A win against Hofstra on Senior night would be a good start to the weekend. Win all three and JMU likely finishes out of the Keener round.

This team has started to win its share of close games. The deer in the headlights look is going away. I see them being more aggressive down the stretch avoiding the play not to lose mentality.

A strong finish this weekend should boost player confidence even more. These guys are ballers. I can’t imagine any of the top teams in the CAA want JMU on their side of the bracket. This team is getting better and wiser as the season goes on.

Definitely agree. Our record doesn't show how dangerous this team is. While I don't think we have a chance to win the title, we are going to be a tough team in the CAA tourney. Of the teams at the bottom, JMU is the team I would not want to face.
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Lewis and Banks will be the best backcourt in the CAA in 2 years, if not sooner.
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(02-19-2018 10:01 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  Lewis and Banks will be the best backcourt in the CAA in 2 years, if not sooner.

Very well could happen. Certainly next year, the backcourt trio of Lewis-Mosley-Banks will be right up there.

Jacobs is starting to turn a corner. I saw some maturity in his game late at Towson Saturday night. He had an open look for a 3 at a critical moment of the game and he turned it down. IIRC, we eventually went on to score a deuce later in the possession. He may be able to evolve into a decent 3-pt threat, but that part of his game is not there right now and he can better contribute to the team by getting boards, banging underneath, defending, running the floor and getting points via rebounds. He had at least 3 shots blocked on the blocks at Towson so he has got to work on some post moves such as a baby hook or he'll see a lot more of that.

The future is bright and getting brighter. Making a little noise at North Charleston would be a great lead-in to next year.
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Jacobs and Jones need some development and aren't the most athletic.

but they play hard and both have nice looking shots. they just need a lot of room to get them off

if they can increase their quickness, both have potential to be really good players for us.

this freshmen class has the potential to be stellar.
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Matt Lewis was a shooting guard in high school. I wonder if he stays in that position, or if a transfer or freshman like Parker will play that position?
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Freshman are playing over 50% of the minutes on the court.

This team is rapidly getting better. If we avoid the play in round, as crazy as it sounds, we have a decent chance to get to the finals. would need a win over Hofstra/W&M and then a win over Charleston / NE.

the only team we have not competed well against is NU.
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I just said on the UNCW board, the tournament could be a lot of fun. No easy outs. Delaware is getting Daly back, Drexel is getting Williams back and you guys are playing well. Elon appears to be the weakest team at this point. It doesnt appear any game will be an easy out as the bottom teams are all improving in strides as the season wanes. Wouldn't bet against CofC still, but I do not think any team will have an easy game this tournament. Should be an absolute war in Charleston.
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(02-19-2018 11:06 AM)dan10 Wrote:  I just said on the UNCW board, the tournament could be a lot of fun. No easy outs. Delaware is getting Daly back, Drexel is getting Williams back and you guys are playing well. Elon appears to be the weakest team at this point. It doesnt appear any game will be an easy out as the bottom teams are all improving in strides as the season wanes. Wouldn't bet against CofC still, but I do not think any team will have an easy game this tournament. Should be an absolute war in Charleston.

I usually have a pretty good idea about who is going to win, but this year I have absolutely no clue. I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of upsets and don't expect the top seeds to hold all the way through. Going to be a very exciting tourney and hope JMU is in the hunt.
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It is very possible that finishing 10th or 7th will be better than finishing 8th or 9th.
If CoC finishes 1st, nobody wants to play them on 18 hours rest after winning a Keener round game.

Of course, 6th is the golden ticket but we have 5 teams vying for only one position. Many play each other this week so by default somebody has to win. Bad teams beating bad teams will determine the seeding
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I wonder how many of the HCLR and JMU MBB haters are actually watching and/or attending games. I'd bet my duke club donation it's less than 20%.
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No great CAA teams this year, and no overly awful teams either.

This could be the most even CAA in conference history.

I think anyone including JMU could win it all. For JMU to increase it’s chances in needs to avoid the playin game. Although being in the playin may may provide more tournament experience for the players.

I felt the one positive last year is JMU upped it’s play in the CAA tournament.

A semi final appearance would be a reasonable goal for this team. Won’t really move the excitement needle that much for the program, but would be a solid step forward.
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(02-19-2018 12:49 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No great CAA teams this year, and no overly awful teams either.

This could be the most even CAA in conference history.
Here's the standard deviation of wins in CAA games:

2017-2018: 2.79*
2016-2017: 3.58
2015-2016: 3.90
2014-2015: 3.13
2013-2014: 3.46*
2012-2013: 3.62
2011-2012: 4.97
2010-2011: 4.49
2009-2010: 3.98
2008-2009: 3.44
2007-2008: 3.06
2006-2007: 4.38
2005-2006: 4.78
2004-2005: 4.60
2003-2004: 3.77
2002-2003: 3.69
2001-2002: 2.93 (the season the northern teams joined)

* To account for an unequal amount of games played, I multiplied your and Elon's wins by 16/15. Since this season so far and 2013-2014 had 16 CAA games, I think the standard deviation should be multiplied by 18/16 = 1.125. That makes 3.14 for this season and 3.90 for 2013-2014.
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I was going through the tiebreaker scenarios last night and it got too complicated with one week of games left.

Right now, JMU is in a favorable tiebreaker situation against Delaware only if they can beat them Saturday. Delaware can’t match JMU’s wins over #5 Towson.
JMU is in a favorable tiebreaker if they beat Elon on Monday for a season sweep. This game is more important than the Delaware game.

1st criteria is head to head
2nd criteria is record against the best team, then second best team etc

Elon has beaten CoC.
Drexel has beaten CoC.
UNCW has beaten Hofstra.

If there is a 2,3, or 4 way tie for a seed these teams have the advantage in the event the head to head doesn’t break the tie.
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(02-19-2018 01:23 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I was going through the tiebreaker scenarios last night and it got too complicated with one week of games left.

Right now, JMU is in a favorable tiebreaker situation against Delaware only if they can beat them Saturday. Delaware can’t match JMU’s wins over #5 Towson.
JMU is in a favorable tiebreaker if they beat Elon on Monday for a season sweep. This game is more important than the Delaware game.

1st criteria is head to head
2nd criteria is record against the best team, then second best team etc

Elon has beaten CoC.
Drexel has beaten CoC.
UNCW has beaten Hofstra.

If there is a 2,3, or 4 way tie for a seed these teams have the advantage in the event the head to head doesn’t break the tie.

I prefer to simply wait and see.
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(02-19-2018 01:20 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 12:49 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No great CAA teams this year, and no overly awful teams either.

This could be the most even CAA in conference history.
Here's the standard deviation of wins in CAA games:

2017-2018: 2.79*
2016-2017: 3.58
2015-2016: 3.90
2014-2015: 3.13
2013-2014: 3.46*
2012-2013: 3.62
2011-2012: 4.97
2010-2011: 4.49
2009-2010: 3.98
2008-2009: 3.44
2007-2008: 3.06
2006-2007: 4.38
2005-2006: 4.78
2004-2005: 4.60
2003-2004: 3.77
2002-2003: 3.69
2001-2002: 2.93 (the season the northern teams joined)

* To account for an unequal amount of games played, I multiplied your and Elon's wins by 16/15. Since this season so far and 2013-2014 had 16 CAA games, I think the standard deviation should be multiplied by 18/16 = 1.125. That makes 3.14 for this season and 3.90 for 2013-2014.

i have no idea what this means? guess i am not a math guy.
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(02-19-2018 02:39 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 01:20 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 12:49 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No great CAA teams this year, and no overly awful teams either.

This could be the most even CAA in conference history.
Here's the standard deviation of wins in CAA games:

2017-2018: 2.79*
2016-2017: 3.58
2015-2016: 3.90
2014-2015: 3.13
2013-2014: 3.46*
2012-2013: 3.62
2011-2012: 4.97
2010-2011: 4.49
2009-2010: 3.98
2008-2009: 3.44
2007-2008: 3.06
2006-2007: 4.38
2005-2006: 4.78
2004-2005: 4.60
2003-2004: 3.77
2002-2003: 3.69
2001-2002: 2.93 (the season the northern teams joined)

* To account for an unequal amount of games played, I multiplied your and Elon's wins by 16/15. Since this season so far and 2013-2014 had 16 CAA games, I think the standard deviation should be multiplied by 18/16 = 1.125. That makes 3.14 for this season and 3.90 for 2013-2014.

i have no idea what this means? guess i am not a math guy.

It means that if the rest of the conference season is just like the first 7/9s of the season, this analysis agrees with the statement that this is the most balanced conference season for the CAA since the 201-2002 season.
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(02-19-2018 04:02 PM)NC Tribe Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 02:39 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 01:20 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 12:49 PM)Dukester Wrote:  No great CAA teams this year, and no overly awful teams either.

This could be the most even CAA in conference history.
Here's the standard deviation of wins in CAA games:

2017-2018: 2.79*
2016-2017: 3.58
2015-2016: 3.90
2014-2015: 3.13
2013-2014: 3.46*
2012-2013: 3.62
2011-2012: 4.97
2010-2011: 4.49
2009-2010: 3.98
2008-2009: 3.44
2007-2008: 3.06
2006-2007: 4.38
2005-2006: 4.78
2004-2005: 4.60
2003-2004: 3.77
2002-2003: 3.69
2001-2002: 2.93 (the season the northern teams joined)

* To account for an unequal amount of games played, I multiplied your and Elon's wins by 16/15. Since this season so far and 2013-2014 had 16 CAA games, I think the standard deviation should be multiplied by 18/16 = 1.125. That makes 3.14 for this season and 3.90 for 2013-2014.

i have no idea what this means? guess i am not a math guy.

It means that if the rest of the conference season is just like the first 7/9s of the season, this analysis agrees with the statement that this is the most balanced conference season for the CAA since the 201-2002 season.

Basically PG he’s saying i’m Right again.

Of course you already knew that.


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The McLean injury was actually a blessing. One of Lou Rowe's faults is that he is too loyal I believe to the holdover players. I think from even the time the team broke camp his 5 best players didn't include the two seniors. Had McLean not gotten injured Lewis would still be coming off the bench. I disagree with the poster who said Jones and Jacobs are not athletic. They are athletic- Jones is the Dukes second best shot blocker after Phillips. He has a nose for the ball and is scrappy but he also keeps rebounds alive because he is a good leaper and has good strength. To me that's being a good athlete. Jacobs runs the court well. Now Snowden is a guy who doesn't play an athletic game. His game reminds me of UREC pickup ball- he plays below the rim and needs to ditch that scoop shot. He isn't a guy who will block a shot either.
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(02-19-2018 07:57 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  The McLean injury was actually a blessing. One of Lou Rowe's faults is that he is too loyal I believe to the holdover players. I think from even the time the team broke camp his 5 best players didn't include the two seniors. Had McLean not gotten injured Lewis would still be coming off the bench. I disagree with the poster who said Jones and Jacobs are not athletic. They are athletic- Jones is the Dukes second best shot blocker after Phillips. He has a nose for the ball and is scrappy but he also keeps rebounds alive because he is a good leaper and has good strength. To me that's being a good athlete. Jacobs runs the court well. Now Snowden is a guy who doesn't play an athletic game. His game reminds me of UREC pickup ball- he plays below the rim and needs to ditch that scoop shot. He isn't a guy who will block a shot either.

We are climbing the ladder - look out CAA Tournament here we come -
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