ECU gonna sweep the tourney and turn the AAC into a one bid league.

(02-20-2018 09:27 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  Tulsa currently sneaking in the NIT as an 8 seed on some bracketologies. With rebuilding going on, I am pleased with this. Hopefully, we can increase our seeding.

Need to be on 5 seed line for NIT as roughly 10-12 regular season champs that lose in conference tourney, will knock off those 6-8 seeds. They need a win vs. one of the top 3, too I think. But good year for Tulsa.

(02-20-2018 10:00 AM)DBSUC1982 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 09:27 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  Tulsa currently sneaking in the NIT as an 8 seed on some bracketologies. With rebuilding going on, I am pleased with this. Hopefully, we can increase our seeding.

Need to be on 5 seed line for NIT as roughly 10-12 regular season champs that lose in conference tourney, will knock off those 6-8 seeds. They need a win vs. one of the top 3, too I think. But good year for Tulsa.

Good. Let our season end and let people start healing and be ready for next year

(02-20-2018 10:08 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:00 AM)DBSUC1982 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 09:27 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  Tulsa currently sneaking in the NIT as an 8 seed on some bracketologies. With rebuilding going on, I am pleased with this. Hopefully, we can increase our seeding.

Need to be on 5 seed line for NIT as roughly 10-12 regular season champs that lose in conference tourney, will knock off those 6-8 seeds. They need a win vs. one of the top 3, too I think. But good year for Tulsa.

Good. Let our season end and let people start healing and be ready for next year

It's a shame what happened to SMU & UCF with multiple injuries to key players. Made this 5 bid conference a 3 bid one.

I can definitely see Temple being that team that gets in that only appeared on 1% of brackets. Really interesting resume even if they don’t finish great.

(02-20-2018 10:13 AM)DBSUC1982 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:08 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:00 AM)DBSUC1982 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 09:27 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  Tulsa currently sneaking in the NIT as an 8 seed on some bracketologies. With rebuilding going on, I am pleased with this. Hopefully, we can increase our seeding.

Need to be on 5 seed line for NIT as roughly 10-12 regular season champs that lose in conference tourney, will knock off those 6-8 seeds. They need a win vs. one of the top 3, too I think. But good year for Tulsa.

Good. Let our season end and let people start healing and be ready for next year

It's a shame what happened to SMU & UCF with multiple injuries to key players. Made this 5 bid conference a 3 bid one.

UCF has a chance..... just a small one. If they run the table and make it to at least the AAC championship game, I do believe they get in. Of course if they win the whole thing, then they get the autobid....... but a loss in the AAC final I think would do the trick as well.

(02-20-2018 12:01 PM)otown Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:13 AM)DBSUC1982 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:08 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 10:00 AM)DBSUC1982 Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 09:27 AM)TUCandoit Wrote:  Tulsa currently sneaking in the NIT as an 8 seed on some bracketologies. With rebuilding going on, I am pleased with this. Hopefully, we can increase our seeding.

Need to be on 5 seed line for NIT as roughly 10-12 regular season champs that lose in conference tourney, will knock off those 6-8 seeds. They need a win vs. one of the top 3, too I think. But good year for Tulsa.

Good. Let our season end and let people start healing and be ready for next year

It's a shame what happened to SMU & UCF with multiple injuries to key players. Made this 5 bid conference a 3 bid one.

UCF has a chance..... just a small one. If they run the table and make it to at least the AAC championship game, I do believe they get in. Of course if they win the whole thing, then they get the autobid....... but a loss in the AAC final I think would do the trick as well.

Honestly, we would be a four bid league with two upsets in the AAC tourney. I think if Houston holds serve for the rest of the regular season they're good, and WSU and UC are obviously locks at this point.

I don't know how accurate this site is but they have Cincy a 2 (#6), Wichita a 3 (#11), Houston a 4 (#14), and Temple a 12 (#47).



https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tourna...cketology/

(02-20-2018 12:16 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  I don't know how accurate this site is but they have Cincy a 2 (#6), Wichita a 3 (#11), Houston a 4 (#14), and Temple a 12 (#47).



https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-tourna...cketology/

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/rankings.html

111th out of 113

I feel like a ton of these bracketologist are stubbornly refusing to reaccess Houston's resume. I think they have exactly what the committee looks for. Sure they'll be penalized a bit for 2 bad losses, but their Q1, Q2 record is great. They have multiple big wins over sure fire tournament teams. They have an RPI of 19. I feel like Houston is a 6 seed right now and wouldn't be shocked to see the committee have them as a 5.

(02-20-2018 12:41 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I feel like a ton of these bracketologist are stubbornly refusing to reaccess Houston's resume. I think they have exactly what the committee looks for. Sure they'll be penalized a bit for 2 bad losses, but their Q1, Q2 record is great. They have multiple big wins over sure fire tournament teams. They have an RPI of 19. I feel like Houston is a 6 seed right now and wouldn't be shocked to see the committee have them as a 5.

The committee has a history of seeding American teams worse than the BracketMatrix consensus:

2014
Louisville - 4 instead of 3
Cincy - 5 instead of 4
UConn - 7 instead of 5
SMU - out instead of 11

2015
SMU - 6 instead of 5
Temple - out instead of 11

2016
UConn - 9 instead of 8

2017
SMU - 6 instead of 5


The only American teams ever given more credit by the committee than by BracketMatrix:

2015 - Cincy got an 8 instead of a 9
2016 - Cincy got 9 instead of 10
2016 - Temple got in instead of NIT
2016 - Tulsa got in instead of NIT

(02-20-2018 01:43 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 12:41 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I feel like a ton of these bracketologist are stubbornly refusing to reaccess Houston's resume. I think they have exactly what the committee looks for. Sure they'll be penalized a bit for 2 bad losses, but their Q1, Q2 record is great. They have multiple big wins over sure fire tournament teams. They have an RPI of 19. I feel like Houston is a 6 seed right now and wouldn't be shocked to see the committee have them as a 5.

The committee has a history of seeding American teams worse than the BracketMatrix consensus:

2014
Louisville - 4 instead of 3
Cincy - 5 instead of 4
UConn - 7 instead of 5
SMU - out instead of 11

2015
SMU - 6 instead of 5
Temple - out instead of 11

2016
UConn - 9 instead of 8

2017
SMU - 6 instead of 5


The only American teams ever given more credit by the committee than by BracketMatrix:

2015 - Cincy got an 8 instead of a 9
2016 - Cincy got 9 instead of 10
2016 - Temple got in instead of NIT

Yup.

See Selection Committee Bylaws: Section 4, Paragraph 2

"Any AAC school making the field of 68 must be docked 1-2 seed lines from what they deserve/expect."

(02-20-2018 01:43 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(02-20-2018 12:41 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  I feel like a ton of these bracketologist are stubbornly refusing to reaccess Houston's resume. I think they have exactly what the committee looks for. Sure they'll be penalized a bit for 2 bad losses, but their Q1, Q2 record is great. They have multiple big wins over sure fire tournament teams. They have an RPI of 19. I feel like Houston is a 6 seed right now and wouldn't be shocked to see the committee have them as a 5.

The committee has a history of seeding American teams worse than the BracketMatrix consensus:

2014
Louisville - 4 instead of 3
Cincy - 5 instead of 4
UConn - 7 instead of 5
SMU - out instead of 11

2015
SMU - 6 instead of 5
Temple - out instead of 11

2016
UConn - 9 instead of 8

2017
SMU - 6 instead of 5


The only American teams ever given more credit by the committee than by BracketMatrix:

2015 - Cincy got an 8 instead of a 9
2016 - Cincy got 9 instead of 10
2016 - Temple got in instead of NIT

2016 Tulsa says hi.....

last 3 years, had 4 get bumped up/in and 4 bumped down/out. Seems fairly reasonable IMO.

Yea...all those are 1 seed line differences. Last year SMU as a 6 was completely defensible. Their regular resume was probably closer to a 7 or 8 seed. Bearcats were the only tournament team they beat. Cincinnati had a 5 or 6 seed resume... but with how dominant SMU was against Cincinnati it was hard to justify UC over SMU in the bracket. Seems like they split the difference and put them on the same seed line.

I just look at Houston's resume and think their seed among many bracket predictors seems out of line what the committee has historically done. They have a ton of things the committee looks for in a good seed.

Also, SMU was 21 so they were the highest 6 seed. In Bracket matrix, they were 20. So a 1 spot difference. Cincy was 22. In BM they were 21. Not exactly a huge difference at all...

2016 UConn- was #32 in BM. By NCAA seed- they were 36. So not a huge gap- but still in the run of things no difference between an 8 and 9 seed.

I think those that make the brackets at this point simply aren't convinced that the Coogs are for real, despite having the stats, we just don't have the street cred yet.

If we keep winning we may move up in the seedings, but I think it's accurate to say we likely won't get the respect that other teams with similar resumes will get.

But one way to shut 'em all up is keep winning in the Dance.

Im a Tulsa fan but that 2016 Ncaa get....I think they feel like they do not have to be fair anymore because they gave us a HUGE present that year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketb...acketology

Houston up to a 7
Wichita up to a 3
Cincinnati still a 3

bracket matrix is pretty good-
Cincy #11- 3 seed
Wichita #15- 4 seed
Houston #21- 6 seed

(02-22-2018 01:18 PM)stever20 Wrote:  bracket matrix is pretty good-
Cincy #11- 3 seed
Wichita #15- 4 seed
Houston #21- 6 seed

Yeah that's about right for the moment. Cincy could move up a seed but don't see them dropping, Wichita and Houston could move up or down a spot before it's all over.