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RE: WMU move to AAC?
(02-20-2018 04:48 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:43 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:24 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:44 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  Here's one huge reason:

MAC Attendance

Yes I will agree with you that overall MAC attendance is poor but those averages are dragged down greatly by bottom of the barrel teams like Kent St, Eastern mich, ball st, and bowling green. Some of those schools only get 5k people to show up sometimes! WMU leads the conference in attendance and has a bright future, new coach, new president, highly rated recruiting classes, lots of players going in the draft(more than MSU and U of M this year), decent tv media market. I think with a couple more years of consistent winning and national attention they'd be a good fit for the AAC.

WMU attendance: less than 16,000 (about the same as Bowling Green, EMU, etc...)

Kalamazoo! A decent media market!?

HA! And I'm the delusional one here ?

Once again, didn't think this through now, did you ?

You don't want to spend much time in Kalamazoo, unless you enjoy crippling depression or gun shots.

Lamo, says the guy from Toledo

Yeah....... I used to work in Kalamazoo, had to commute from Byron Center everyday. Nice try though.....
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RE: WMU move to AAC?
(02-20-2018 04:48 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:43 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:24 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:44 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  Here's one huge reason:

MAC Attendance

Yes I will agree with you that overall MAC attendance is poor but those averages are dragged down greatly by bottom of the barrel teams like Kent St, Eastern mich, ball st, and bowling green. Some of those schools only get 5k people to show up sometimes! WMU leads the conference in attendance and has a bright future, new coach, new president, highly rated recruiting classes, lots of players going in the draft(more than MSU and U of M this year), decent tv media market. I think with a couple more years of consistent winning and national attention they'd be a good fit for the AAC.

WMU attendance: less than 16,000 (about the same as Bowling Green, EMU, etc...)

Kalamazoo! A decent media market!?

HA! And I'm the delusional one here ?

Once again, didn't think this through now, did you ?

You don't want to spend much time in Kalamazoo, unless you enjoy crippling depression or gun shots.

Lamo, says the guy from Toledo

Excuse me, but this is an AMERICAN board.

Please take your MAC CRAP smack talk to the correct board.

Thank you.
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RE: WMU move to AAC?
(02-20-2018 04:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:24 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:44 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  Here's one huge reason:

MAC Attendance

Yes I will agree with you that overall MAC attendance is poor but those averages are dragged down greatly by bottom of the barrel teams like Kent St, Eastern mich, ball st, and bowling green. Some of those schools only get 5k people to show up sometimes! WMU leads the conference in attendance and has a bright future, new coach, new president, highly rated recruiting classes, lots of players going in the draft(more than MSU and U of M this year), decent tv media market. I think with a couple more years of consistent winning and national attention they'd be a good fit for the AAC.

WMU attendance: less than 16,000 (about the same as Bowling Green, EMU, etc...)

Kalamazoo! A decent media market!?

HA! And I'm the delusional one here ?

Once again, didn't think this through now, did you ?

Sorry we play in a system that is rigged against us. Do you have any idea how hard it is to try and get fans excited to play Kent St or Ball St or Akron. And these week night MACtion games are complete bs, also one our games got reschedueld to a sunday afternoon so you can't really hold that against us. Man oh man, I hope we start scheduling the AAC more often I didn't realize how pretentious these fans were. Afterall, you guys are in the Power6 aren't you. Lmao
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RE: WMU move to AAC?
(02-20-2018 04:54 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:48 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:43 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:24 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  Yes I will agree with you that overall MAC attendance is poor but those averages are dragged down greatly by bottom of the barrel teams like Kent St, Eastern mich, ball st, and bowling green. Some of those schools only get 5k people to show up sometimes! WMU leads the conference in attendance and has a bright future, new coach, new president, highly rated recruiting classes, lots of players going in the draft(more than MSU and U of M this year), decent tv media market. I think with a couple more years of consistent winning and national attention they'd be a good fit for the AAC.

WMU attendance: less than 16,000 (about the same as Bowling Green, EMU, etc...)

Kalamazoo! A decent media market!?

HA! And I'm the delusional one here ?

Once again, didn't think this through now, did you ?

You don't want to spend much time in Kalamazoo, unless you enjoy crippling depression or gun shots.

Lamo, says the guy from Toledo

Excuse me, but this is an AMERICAN board.

Please take your MAC CRAP smack to the correct board.

Thank you.

He's just triggered..... I just enjoy poking holes in his "pimp my school" theory.
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RE: WMU move to AAC?
(02-20-2018 04:59 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:54 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:48 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:43 PM)utpotts Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  WMU attendance: less than 16,000 (about the same as Bowling Green, EMU, etc...)

Kalamazoo! A decent media market!?

HA! And I'm the delusional one here ?

Once again, didn't think this through now, did you ?

You don't want to spend much time in Kalamazoo, unless you enjoy crippling depression or gun shots.

Lamo, says the guy from Toledo

Excuse me, but this is an AMERICAN board.

Please take your MAC CRAP smack to the correct board.

Thank you.

He's just triggered..... I just enjoy poking holes in his "pimp my school" theory.

Understood my brother. I have no qualms with you. I just get a kick out of this Kalamazoo loony tune, who ought to venture back to Timbuktu.
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RE: WMU move to AAC?
(02-20-2018 04:58 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:39 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:24 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:44 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  Here's one huge reason:

MAC Attendance

Yes I will agree with you that overall MAC attendance is poor but those averages are dragged down greatly by bottom of the barrel teams like Kent St, Eastern mich, ball st, and bowling green. Some of those schools only get 5k people to show up sometimes! WMU leads the conference in attendance and has a bright future, new coach, new president, highly rated recruiting classes, lots of players going in the draft(more than MSU and U of M this year), decent tv media market. I think with a couple more years of consistent winning and national attention they'd be a good fit for the AAC.

WMU attendance: less than 16,000 (about the same as Bowling Green, EMU, etc...)

Kalamazoo! A decent media market!?

HA! And I'm the delusional one here ?

Once again, didn't think this through now, did you ?

Sorry we play in a system that is rigged against us. Do you have any idea how hard it is to try and get fans excited to play Kent St or Ball St or Akron. And these week night MACtion games are complete bs, also one our games got reschedueld to a sunday afternoon so you can't really hold that against us. Man oh man, I hope we start scheduling the AAC more often I didn't realize how pretentious these fans were. Afterall, you guys are in the Power6 aren't you. Lmao

The system is rigged against UCF too but we still shoved in the CFP committees fat mouths.
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(02-20-2018 04:18 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:08 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:59 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  Just wanna know what you guys think of the AAC accepting in a couple teams from the MAC to establish a more northern/midwest presence. Teams like U Buffalo, Toledo, and especially Western Michigan are the schools I had in mind. What you guys think?

No, never. It would drag the conference down significantly.

There is not even one MAC program that will ever be worthy of an invitation to the American.

In fact, the mere asking of this question pisses me off.

I mean, hell, why don't we just invite the Cleveland Browns while we are at it ?

Oh god, your'e not one of those delusional UCF fans that thinks they're actually National champs??!! I know Toledo and Buffalo are a bit of a stretch but WMU has some serious room for growth and is easily the best program out of that conference. You can't tell me that Tulane or Tulsa are really "better" than WMU. And please stop acting like the AAC is a a cream of the crop conference, yes they are better than the MAC but putting yourself on a pedestal is laughable.

Uh yeah we can tell you that Tulsa and Tulane are better than WMU... there isn’t even a real comparison. GTFO with that bs.
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The system is rigged against UCF too but we still shoved in the CFP committees fat mouths.
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So you beat a ranked power 5 team and that makes you national champs?? Lol
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(02-20-2018 05:06 PM)goldenhurricane2 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 04:18 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:08 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 02:59 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  Just wanna know what you guys think of the AAC accepting in a couple teams from the MAC to establish a more northern/midwest presence. Teams like U Buffalo, Toledo, and especially Western Michigan are the schools I had in mind. What you guys think?

No, never. It would drag the conference down significantly.

There is not even one MAC program that will ever be worthy of an invitation to the American.

In fact, the mere asking of this question pisses me off.

I mean, hell, why don't we just invite the Cleveland Browns while we are at it ?

Oh god, your'e not one of those delusional UCF fans that thinks they're actually National champs??!! I know Toledo and Buffalo are a bit of a stretch but WMU has some serious room for growth and is easily the best program out of that conference. You can't tell me that Tulane or Tulsa are really "better" than WMU. And please stop acting like the AAC is a a cream of the crop conference, yes they are better than the MAC but putting yourself on a pedestal is laughable.

Uh yeah we can tell you that Tulsa and Tulane are better than WMU... there isn’t even a real comparison. GTFO with that bs.

Coming off a 2 win season in which you didn't have a single home attendance over 20K. Lol. The pretentiousness is unreal.
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RE: WMU move to AAC?
(02-20-2018 03:47 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:44 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  Here's one huge reason:

MAC Attendance

With that attendance, USF ought to beg the CRAP to invite them. They'll be at home playing in front of absolutely nobody.

Calm down. We get that you hate USF, but every single post you have made in this thread is about USF, which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of adding WMU. Nothing.

For the record, USF went 21-4 the past 2 seasons in football, 29-9 over the past 3 years, and went 2-1 vs. UCF over that time period, meanwhile averaging in the mid 30's attendance wise, which put them squarely above average in the AAC and one of the top "G5" programs in the nation.

Yeah, kick that out and add a random MAC or CUSA team. 01-wingedeagle
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Damnit, who let the MAC kids out of the playroom?
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AAC is set as it is
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The system is rigged against UCF too but we still shoved in the CFP committees fat mouths.
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So you beat a ranked power 5 team and that makes you national champs?? Lol
[/quote]

No, finishing undefeated (you had your chance and YOU BLEW IT!!!), beat USF (who would have been a majority of so-called P5 teams), beat Memphis (TWICE!), beat Navy (at Navy, breaking their long home winning streak), playing without a break after the hurricane, and THEN beating the Tigers.

Oh, and this too....courtesy of the prestigious TD Club of Columbus:
[Image: UCF_2017_National_Championship_Trophy_Zuppke_Award.jpg]
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(02-20-2018 02:59 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  Just wanna know what you guys think of the AAC accepting in a couple teams from the MAC to establish a more northern/midwest presence. Teams like U Buffalo, Toledo, and especially Western Michigan are the schools I had in mind. What you guys think?

I would not be opposed to adding anyone to the conference along as it resulted in a substantially larger media deal, better bowl games, etc. That being said, I don't think adding WMU, Toledo or Buffalo would result in any of those things.
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If there is any AAC expansion, taking Boise St & BYU would be most beneficial. This would shut the door on the G4 & strengthen the AAC. I said 'if" because the question was asked, not should.
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(02-20-2018 05:13 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:47 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:44 PM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  Here's one huge reason:

MAC Attendance

With that attendance, USF ought to beg the CRAP to invite them. They'll be at home playing in front of absolutely nobody.

Calm down. We get that you hate USF, but every single post you have made in this thread is about USF, which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of adding WMU. Nothing.

For the record, USF went 21-4 the past 2 seasons in football, 29-9 over the past 3 years, and went 2-1 vs. UCF over that time period, meanwhile averaging in the mid 30's attendance wise, which put them squarely above average in the AAC and one of the top "G5" programs in the nation.

Yeah, kick that out and add a random MAC or CUSA team. 01-wingedeagle

Oh no, I love USF. Absolutely love them. Why ? Because of all of that rent money they paid to the Glazers, the renovations to RJS were made possible.

As long as USF is stuck at RJS, then the Bucs will NEVER have to worry about how to pay for continued improvements in order to keep up with the NFL.

The University of Snow Flakes. The gift to the Glazers and the NFL in Tampa that keeps giving.
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(02-20-2018 05:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:06 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  

The system is rigged against UCF too but we still shoved in the CFP committees fat mouths.



So you beat a ranked power 5 team and that makes you national champs?? Lol
[/quote]

No, finishing undefeated (you had your chance and YOU BLEW IT!!!), beat USF (who would have been a majority of so-called P5 teams), beat Memphis (TWICE!), beat Navy (at Navy, breaking their long home winning streak), playing without a break after the hurricane, and THEN beating the Tigers.

Oh, and this too....courtesy of the prestigious TD Club of Columbus:
[Image: UCF_2017_National_Championship_Trophy_Zuppke_Award.jpg]
[/quote]

Haha we have a national championship too. See, anybody can declare it. Beating a #10 auburn team by 7 points does not constitute a national championship, I think it's awesome that you guys won the game because it helps out the G5 world.
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(02-20-2018 05:23 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  If there is any AAC expansion, taking Boise St & BYU would be most beneficial. This would shut the door on the G4 & strengthen the AAC. I said 'if" because the question was asked, not should.

Too far away
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(02-20-2018 05:27 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:06 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  

The system is rigged against UCF too but we still shoved in the CFP committees fat mouths.



So you beat a ranked power 5 team and that makes you national champs?? Lol

No, finishing undefeated (you had your chance and YOU BLEW IT!!!), beat USF (who would have been a majority of so-called P5 teams), beat Memphis (TWICE!), beat Navy (at Navy, breaking their long home winning streak), playing without a break after the hurricane, and THEN beating the Tigers.

Oh, and this too....courtesy of the prestigious TD Club of Columbus:
[Image: UCF_2017_National_Championship_Trophy_Zuppke_Award.jpg]
[/quote]

Haha we have a national championship too. See, anybody can declare it. Beating a #10 auburn team by 7 points does not constitute a national championship, I think it's awesome that you guys won the game because it helps out the G5 world.
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If you would have beat Wisconsin a few years ago then yes, you may have had a legit case for claiming a share of the title. But you didn't.
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(02-20-2018 05:30 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:27 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:18 PM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 05:06 PM)Fthechips Wrote:  

The system is rigged against UCF too but we still shoved in the CFP committees fat mouths.



So you beat a ranked power 5 team and that makes you national champs?? Lol

No, finishing undefeated (you had your chance and YOU BLEW IT!!!), beat USF (who would have been a majority of so-called P5 teams), beat Memphis (TWICE!), beat Navy (at Navy, breaking their long home winning streak), playing without a break after the hurricane, and THEN beating the Tigers.

Oh, and this too....courtesy of the prestigious TD Club of Columbus:
[Image: UCF_2017_National_Championship_Trophy_Zuppke_Award.jpg]

Haha we have a national championship too. See, anybody can declare it. Beating a #10 auburn team by 7 points does not constitute a national championship, I think it's awesome that you guys won the game because it helps out the G5 world.
[/quote]

If you would have beat Wisconsin a few years ago then yes, you may have had a legit case for claiming a share of the title. But you didn't.
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No because Wisconsin was not even close to being the best team that year, just like Auburn wasn't this year.
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