(02-22-2018 03:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 11:07 AM)Dasville Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

How old is EVERYONE named in the FBI expose? Agents? How about the reporters?
Sure, “Rage against the “light””all you want. Might want to look in the mirror. Left is right and right is left. You might also see someone coming up behind you.

1. Pitino is not the light. He's part of the darkness.

2. Nobody is raging against him. He killed himself reputation wise.

3. He'll be remembered like Paterno, Petrino, Bryles, and a host of folks in the administration at Michigan State.

4. It's sad you want to hold onto what was a corrupt mess at Louisville. My hope for Louisville is that it sees much better days and finds success they can cling to without holding onto that which poisons the soul.

5. If the FBI is serious maybe all of us can clean up the scudzy side of sports and have something our kids can look up to, without the parents' fearing the eventual disillusionment that these kinds of leaders inevitably create.

6. I can't believe anyone is authoring a thread defending this guy. It's as sad as the Penn State threads that did the same for Joe Pa.

This is really spot on. I agree.

(02-22-2018 11:31 AM)Dasville Wrote:  NBA will go the way of boxing. Unless it changes the game.

why do you think so? not contradicting you... just interested.

(02-22-2018 03:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 11:07 AM)Dasville Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

How old is EVERYONE named in the FBI expose? Agents? How about the reporters?
Sure, “Rage against the “light””all you want. Might want to look in the mirror. Left is right and right is left. You might also see someone coming up behind you.

1. Pitino is not the light. He's part of the darkness.

2. Nobody is raging against him. He killed himself reputation wise.

3. He'll be remembered like Paterno, Petrino, Bryles, and a host of folks in the administration at Michigan State.

4. It's sad you want to hold onto what was a corrupt mess at Louisville. My hope for Louisville is that it sees much better days and finds success they can cling to without holding onto that which poisons the soul.

5. If the FBI is serious maybe all of us can clean up the scudzy side of sports and have something our kids can look up to, without the parents' fearing the eventual disillusionment that these kinds of leaders inevitably create.

6. I can't believe anyone is authoring a thread defending this guy. It's as sad as the Penn State threads that did the same for Joe Pa.

I always though Bruce was a hell of a analyst. Enjoyed his commentary. Why he got back into coaching under the spotlights is kinda what I was referring too. Thanks for the wisdom.

(02-22-2018 03:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 12:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

Most of the successful people I know are ready to retire by age 61. But then again, I hang around mostly with Catholics, and we tend to be less job-focused than most Americans.

My Dad's company (a Fortune 100 firm) offered company-wide early retirement during the recession. He qualified because he was 57 and had worked there since he was 23 (19 if you include internships). They begged him to stay, but he didn't want to spend half his life on airplanes any more.

Kudos to your dad! I've known too many people who have worked hard all their lives, but never lived. There is a time to put it down and enjoy your family while you still can. They are the precious moments that make life worth living. The endless pursuit of newer and bigger toys is just as destructive as lives spent pursuing drugs, alcohol, sex, and adrenaline.

I don't know if I am "successful", but after practicing law since April, 1987, I am retiring in 16 months when I turn 62.

I want to live some before I die. Working until 67 or 70 or death has zero, I mean zero, appeal to me.

My Dad retired and had 18 great years in retirement until he died at age 85.

I want maybe double that time in retirement (my Mom lived until 6 weeks before her 100th birthday).

(02-22-2018 04:12 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 12:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

Most of the successful people I know are ready to retire by age 61. But then again, I hang around mostly with Catholics, and we tend to be less job-focused than most Americans.

My Dad's company (a Fortune 100 firm) offered company-wide early retirement during the recession. He qualified because he was 57 and had worked there since he was 23 (19 if you include internships). They begged him to stay, but he didn't want to spend half his life on airplanes any more.

Kudos to your dad! I've known too many people who have worked hard all their lives, but never lived. There is a time to put it down and enjoy your family while you still can. They are the precious moments that make life worth living. The endless pursuit of newer and bigger toys is just as destructive as lives spent pursuing drugs, alcohol, sex, and adrenaline.

I don't know if I am "successful", but after practicing law since April, 1987, I am retiring in 16 months when I turn 62.

I want to live some before I die. Working until 67 or 70 or death has zero, I mean zero, appeal to me.

My Dad retired and had 18 great years in retirement until he died at age 85.

I want maybe double that time in retirement (my Mom lived until 6 weeks before her 100th birthday).

Thats some serious longevity in your family

(02-22-2018 03:01 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 11:07 AM)Dasville Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

How old is EVERYONE named in the FBI expose? Agents? How about the reporters?
Sure, “Rage against the “light””all you want. Might want to look in the mirror. Left is right and right is left. You might also see someone coming up behind you.

1. Pitino is not the light. He's part of the darkness.

2. Nobody is raging against him. He killed himself reputation wise.

3. He'll be remembered like Paterno, Petrino, Bryles, and a host of folks in the administration at Michigan State.

4. It's sad you want to hold onto what was a corrupt mess at Louisville. My hope for Louisville is that it sees much better days and finds success they can cling to without holding onto that which poisons the soul.

5. If the FBI is serious maybe all of us can clean up the scudzy side of sports and have something our kids can look up to, without the parents' fearing the eventual disillusionment that these kinds of leaders inevitably create.

6. I can't believe anyone is authoring a thread defending this guy. It's as sad as the Penn State threads that did the same for Joe Pa.

I wish I could give rep points....... Perfect

I want to work until I drop (at least part time).

Bobby Bowden was asked: why he doesn't retire... his reply was after you retire there is only one big event left.

(02-22-2018 04:12 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 12:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

Most of the successful people I know are ready to retire by age 61. But then again, I hang around mostly with Catholics, and we tend to be less job-focused than most Americans.

My Dad's company (a Fortune 100 firm) offered company-wide early retirement during the recession. He qualified because he was 57 and had worked there since he was 23 (19 if you include internships). They begged him to stay, but he didn't want to spend half his life on airplanes any more.

Kudos to your dad! I've known too many people who have worked hard all their lives, but never lived. There is a time to put it down and enjoy your family while you still can. They are the precious moments that make life worth living. The endless pursuit of newer and bigger toys is just as destructive as lives spent pursuing drugs, alcohol, sex, and adrenaline.

I don't know if I am "successful", but after practicing law since April, 1987, I am retiring in 16 months when I turn 62.

I want to live some before I die. Working until 67 or 70 or death has zero, I mean zero, appeal to me.

My Dad retired and had 18 great years in retirement until he died at age 85.

I want maybe double that time in retirement (my Mom lived until 6 weeks before her 100th birthday).

good goals. I will have to work forever...

(02-22-2018 04:12 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 12:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

Most of the successful people I know are ready to retire by age 61. But then again, I hang around mostly with Catholics, and we tend to be less job-focused than most Americans.

My Dad's company (a Fortune 100 firm) offered company-wide early retirement during the recession. He qualified because he was 57 and had worked there since he was 23 (19 if you include internships). They begged him to stay, but he didn't want to spend half his life on airplanes any more.

Kudos to your dad! I've known too many people who have worked hard all their lives, but never lived. There is a time to put it down and enjoy your family while you still can. They are the precious moments that make life worth living. The endless pursuit of newer and bigger toys is just as destructive as lives spent pursuing drugs, alcohol, sex, and adrenaline.

I don't know if I am "successful", but after practicing law since April, 1987, I am retiring in 16 months when I turn 62.

I want to live some before I die. Working until 67 or 70 or death has zero, I mean zero, appeal to me.

My Dad retired and had 18 great years in retirement until he died at age 85.

I want maybe double that time in retirement (my Mom lived until 6 weeks before her 100th birthday).

God's speed in that endeavor!

More like Pitino and the sin of buying 16-year-olds off Backpage....

(02-22-2018 12:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

Most of the successful people I know are ready to retire by age 61. But then again, I hang around mostly with Catholics, and we tend to be less job-focused than most Americans.

I regard myself as 'successful', and I could have retired three years ago, at 50. But I never will, my 'job' is just too much fun. Wouldn't quit if i won the $100m powerball.

(02-22-2018 04:12 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 12:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

Most of the successful people I know are ready to retire by age 61. But then again, I hang around mostly with Catholics, and we tend to be less job-focused than most Americans.

My Dad's company (a Fortune 100 firm) offered company-wide early retirement during the recession. He qualified because he was 57 and had worked there since he was 23 (19 if you include internships). They begged him to stay, but he didn't want to spend half his life on airplanes any more.

Kudos to your dad! I've known too many people who have worked hard all their lives, but never lived. There is a time to put it down and enjoy your family while you still can. They are the precious moments that make life worth living. The endless pursuit of newer and bigger toys is just as destructive as lives spent pursuing drugs, alcohol, sex, and adrenaline.

I don't know if I am "successful", but after practicing law since April, 1987, I am retiring in 16 months when I turn 62.

Congratulations!

(02-22-2018 11:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Pitino is an amazing basketball coach. His basketball mind is the equal of Coach K and Calhoun, and better than Roy Williams, even though Williams has three titles. The aforementioned are his equal, but you have to go back to John Wooden to find a coach with a bigger hoops IQ. I first learned that 30 years ago, when he out-foxed an at-peak John Thompson in a regional final to deprive Georgetown of a Final 4 appearance.

But IMO, his ethical problems at Louisville are a product of the status of Louisville in the college hoops realm.

UL fans will say the reason Pitino, and Calipari, never got in trouble at Kentucky is because Kentucky is one of the "untouchables" while UL is not. That UK is just as shady but they have NCAA teflon.

I don't think so. IMO, it's because UK is in the blue-blood inner circle such that a coach doesn't need to cheat to build national title teams there. The same recruits that require strippers or some cash to go to UL will go to UK "for free" so top speak.

UL has very high status in college hoops, they are probably around #8 in terms of the pecking order.

But UL fans want ultra-blue blood results. They want the same results as Duke, UK, and UNC. And to get the recruits needed to produce them, their coaches, even a genius like Pitino, have to cut some corners that those schools don't.

That's little brother syndrome. UK has been hammered over the years worse than any other football or basketball elite. Its one of the few schools that got the death penalty. And Pitino did a great job bringing them back after probation under Eddie Sutton.

(02-22-2018 05:50 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:12 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 03:07 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 12:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

Most of the successful people I know are ready to retire by age 61. But then again, I hang around mostly with Catholics, and we tend to be less job-focused than most Americans.

My Dad's company (a Fortune 100 firm) offered company-wide early retirement during the recession. He qualified because he was 57 and had worked there since he was 23 (19 if you include internships). They begged him to stay, but he didn't want to spend half his life on airplanes any more.

Kudos to your dad! I've known too many people who have worked hard all their lives, but never lived. There is a time to put it down and enjoy your family while you still can. They are the precious moments that make life worth living. The endless pursuit of newer and bigger toys is just as destructive as lives spent pursuing drugs, alcohol, sex, and adrenaline.

I don't know if I am "successful", but after practicing law since April, 1987, I am retiring in 16 months when I turn 62.

Congratulations!

My Dad recently had to retire permanently for health reasons. He's retired before, but moved on to other less taxing jobs. He's 86. He wanted to keep working, because he had been working all his life. It was what he did. Now he has some hobbies, but he likes working and dealing with people.

(02-22-2018 04:30 PM)No Bull Wrote:  I want to work until I drop (at least part time).

Bobby Bowden was asked: why he doesn't retire... his reply was after you retire there is only one big event left.

The best quote that I have heard on retirement is:

"When you are retired, every night is Friday night, every morning is Saturday morning".


That sounds pretty damn good to me.

(02-22-2018 08:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:30 PM)No Bull Wrote:  I want to work until I drop (at least part time).

Bobby Bowden was asked: why he doesn't retire... his reply was after you retire there is only one big event left.

The best quote that I have heard on retirement is:

"When you are retired, every night is Friday night, every morning is Saturday morning".


That sounds pretty damn good to me.

If I'm having a Zen gardening experience going on I might go for days without ever checking a clock, or knowing what day of the week it is. No appointment book is a blast! I purposefully got rid of the cell phone so that I no longer have an electronic leash in my pocket.

And when I'm on the lake or pond, or at sea the same is true and frequently I have recalled one of my favorite Far Sides where two old geezers are fishing and one sees mushroom clouds on the horizon and asks the other, "What does that mean?" He replies, "Screw the limit!"

It's hard to emphasize enough how stress free it actually is to be able to ignore those you don't really care to see, and how enjoyable quiet time really is, and what a bang you get out of your own domestic projects. It's a blast Terry D.!

(02-22-2018 07:52 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 11:48 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Pitino is an amazing basketball coach. His basketball mind is the equal of Coach K and Calhoun, and better than Roy Williams, even though Williams has three titles. The aforementioned are his equal, but you have to go back to John Wooden to find a coach with a bigger hoops IQ. I first learned that 30 years ago, when he out-foxed an at-peak John Thompson in a regional final to deprive Georgetown of a Final 4 appearance.

But IMO, his ethical problems at Louisville are a product of the status of Louisville in the college hoops realm.

UL fans will say the reason Pitino, and Calipari, never got in trouble at Kentucky is because Kentucky is one of the "untouchables" while UL is not. That UK is just as shady but they have NCAA teflon.

I don't think so. IMO, it's because UK is in the blue-blood inner circle such that a coach doesn't need to cheat to build national title teams there. The same recruits that require strippers or some cash to go to UL will go to UK "for free" so top speak.

UL has very high status in college hoops, they are probably around #8 in terms of the pecking order.

But UL fans want ultra-blue blood results. They want the same results as Duke, UK, and UNC. And to get the recruits needed to produce them, their coaches, even a genius like Pitino, have to cut some corners that those schools don't.

That's little brother syndrome. UK has been hammered over the years worse than any other football or basketball elite. Its one of the few schools that got the death penalty. And Pitino did a great job bringing them back after probation under Eddie Sutton.

We will now witness how a unified University and government takes measured steps and defend itself properly. Everyone will proceed with common purpose and motives.

(02-22-2018 08:18 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 04:30 PM)No Bull Wrote:  I want to work until I drop (at least part time).

Bobby Bowden was asked: why he doesn't retire... his reply was after you retire there is only one big event left.

The best quote that I have heard on retirement is:

"When you are retired, every night is Friday night, every morning is Saturday morning".

touche' that is a good quote!
That sounds pretty damn good to me.

(02-22-2018 05:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 12:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 10:58 AM)ken d Wrote:  How many successful people do you know who are ready to retire at 61 these days? Hindsight is a wonderful tool. Most of us acquire it too late.

Most of the successful people I know are ready to retire by age 61. But then again, I hang around mostly with Catholics, and we tend to be less job-focused than most Americans.

I regard myself as 'successful', and I could have retired three years ago, at 50. But I never will, my 'job' is just too much fun. Wouldn't quit if i won the $100m powerball.

You're pretty darn lucky. Kudos to you.

From the time I was little, I always just assumed that I'd dislike my job. But after a recession-forced career reset, I think I've found one I'll still enjoy when I'm 70. But then again, that's 35 years from now, so who knows?