(02-26-2018 12:29 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (02-26-2018 11:36 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: (02-26-2018 09:39 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (02-26-2018 08:19 AM)bearcatmark Wrote: Can Tubby recruit at a level to get Memphis back to where they need to be? Who knows? But the man can absolutely coach.
Perhaps a few recruits will fall into his lap due to ramifications of the FBI investigation. Otherwise, Tubby has failed to date to pluck a single recruit from the Memphis area cornucopia and has only one lowly rated (albeit intriguing) player signed now for next season.
He's in his 2nd season. Maybe give him some time to develop talent and see where the program goes.
Tubby has only one NCAA Tourney win in the past ten years. He will have to do better at Memphis (or Cincy I suppose) and there is nothing Tubby has done to date indicating he will do better in the future. Memphis is resourced at a top 25 level. There is no excuse for failure to acheive what every coach at Memphis since Bartow who lasted three years by making the NCAA Tourney by his third year.
Other Tiger fans may differ, but I will not lower the bar for Tubby or any other coach.
ive said this for ages that sampson and tubby are identical style of coaches they are actually extremely close friends who vacation together once a year
both are great x and os coaches who arent good recruits...the only time they are bringing in good recruits is when the program is selling itself...but both re elite x and o's coaches
sampson entered houston on an almost identical situation to tubby at memphis..houston had an elite recruiter who couldnt coach, we hired sampson thinking he would take that talent from the old coach to the next level..only to have all of them transfer out...and then built a team from the juco
which brings me too my point, memphis from year 1 to year 2 was drastic improvement, nowhere near the level they want to be but improvement none the less.. sampsons had a almost identical trajectory...sampson it took 4 years to get to the tourney but now that we are here, almost everyone who follows us expects us to stay here
if memphis was a high seed nit team (what Sampson as year 3) imo youd be foolish not to bring him back ....
something reid getty (a member of phi slama, now our tv announcer) said about sampson vs ecu "he isnt a team builder, he is a program builder" meaning that houston has gotten better every single year, despite who was lost, and are projected to keep getting better...he isnt getting a bunch of 1 and dones or waiting till his players are seniors and saying, "this is the season where things align, this year could be special" like many coaches, who have up and down seasons..he isnt flashy or instant but they build strong foundations...
you're ncaa year 3 or fire him....when i think the bar should be improvement every year ... my be would be another year of big improvement (a high seed nit would be big improvement) and the momentum that year 4 will be even better than year 3...
imagine if he made made a high seed nit next season, projected to be better and you fired him...only to have everyone transfer out and start all over again...its not like you have a coach with a better resume than tubby waiting in the wings, who would be a guaranteed success