Gotcha. Sac State has men's soccer, though, and is playing as a Big West affiliate, so it seems like it would be no problem for them to be a Pac-12 affiliate instead; BW would still have 7 men's programs, IIRC.

Another option, if SDSU is forced to stay with the P12 2 more years would be for the MWC to invite Houston baptist as an affiliate for a typical 2 or 4 year contract

And with that, this thread has become a joke. Not that it wasn't already hilarious before hand.

(03-10-2018 08:06 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Gotcha. Sac State has men's soccer, though, and is playing as a Big West affiliate, so it seems like it would be no problem for them to be a Pac-12 affiliate instead; BW would still have 7 men's programs, IIRC.

The BW would have nine, with UC San Diego and Cal State Bakersfield.

Sponsoring men's soccer isn't a must. Everyone could just stay where they are. San Diego St certainly doesn't want to give up a relationship with the Pac 12.

They could just work something out where the MWC schools play each other OOC.

(03-11-2018 01:29 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Sponsoring men's soccer isn't a must. Everyone could just stay where they are. San Diego St certainly doesn't want to give up a relationship with the Pac 12.

They could just work something out where the MWC schools play each other OOC.

According to Zeigler it's not SDSU who wants to stay in the Pac-12, it's the Pac-12 needing a 6th member and not having a replacement at hand.

Gonzaga needs a home for Men's soccer and a schedule. Supposedly that is the hangup (that and revamping the Fall schedules of sports). Sentiment in the MWC has been in favor of sponsoring the sport, but against having affiliates as it's a league without affiliates (Colorado College Women's soccer is the exception, not sure why).

(03-10-2018 07:21 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Zeigler said in the podcast that the impression he got was except for GU and BYU, there was not enough juice to move the dial with any of the others. UTEP, NMSU, Rice, GCU and the mystery school (if not BYU) simply don't have any juice. The MWC plan is add Gonzaga, then see if BYU can work. As far as a 14th or the odd scheduling, it's not being talked about or thought about. It's more like a, we'll deal with it when we get there. It's simply individual merit/value. When you look at it from a time scale, it's GU this year (if details can be completed), maybe or maybe not BYU the better part of a year from now, anything else likely further out than that if at all.

Rice.

(03-11-2018 02:09 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 01:29 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Sponsoring men's soccer isn't a must. Everyone could just stay where they are. San Diego St certainly doesn't want to give up a relationship with the Pac 12.

They could just work something out where the MWC schools play each other OOC.

According to Zeigler it's not SDSU who wants to stay in the Pac-12, it's the Pac-12 needing a 6th member and not having a replacement at hand.

Gonzaga needs a home for Men's soccer and a schedule. Supposedly that is the hangup (that and revamping the Fall schedules of sports). Sentiment in the MWC has been in favor of sponsoring the sport, but against having affiliates as it's a league without affiliates (Colorado College Women's soccer is the exception, not sure why).

Scheduling mostly.
https://www.coloradocollege.edu/newseven...qWOD0xFzIU
They were a powerhouse but since the move they haven't done much. But it did help with scheduling with having 12 teams.

(03-11-2018 03:17 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 02:09 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 01:29 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Sponsoring men's soccer isn't a must. Everyone could just stay where they are. San Diego St certainly doesn't want to give up a relationship with the Pac 12.

They could just work something out where the MWC schools play each other OOC.

According to Zeigler it's not SDSU who wants to stay in the Pac-12, it's the Pac-12 needing a 6th member and not having a replacement at hand.

Gonzaga needs a home for Men's soccer and a schedule. Supposedly that is the hangup (that and revamping the Fall schedules of sports). Sentiment in the MWC has been in favor of sponsoring the sport, but against having affiliates as it's a league without affiliates (Colorado College Women's soccer is the exception, not sure why).

Scheduling mostly.
https://www.coloradocollege.edu/newseven...qWOD0xFzIU
They were a powerhouse but since the move they haven't done much. But it did help with scheduling with having 12 teams.

I guess this means they will release them - if they haven't already - since 13 is unwieldy in that sport. But if they renewed them (2 year cycles after the initial 4 years) then they will be 13 for the next two years.

Gonzaga gone for sure now. 1 bid league. Bottom of the WCC is way worse than MWC. Look what happened to St Mary's

(03-11-2018 06:10 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Gonzaga gone for sure now. 1 bid league. Bottom of the WCC is way worse than MWC. Look what happened to St Mary's

Apparently St Marys got out of a game this year with Nevada and passed up an opportunity to play Rhode Island. Wow...

So what? They only lost 5 times. They played NMSU, Cal, and Dayton. How was SMC going to know Cal and Dayton were going to be bad? They played in the Wooden Tournament as well.

Basically have to play multiple P5 teams, beat them, and not lose to anyone to get an at-large bid these days. If you're a non-power team. That is BS!

(03-11-2018 06:35 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 06:10 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Gonzaga gone for sure now. 1 bid league. Bottom of the WCC is way worse than MWC. Look what happened to St Mary's

Apparently St Marys got out of a game this year with Nevada and passed up an opportunity to play Rhode Island. Wow...

I am not sure why they got out of their game with Nevada, but I don't think it was out of fear of Nevada. San Francisco beat Nevada during the season. St. Mary's did what they could. They were 28-5 with an RPI of 40. Oklahoma was 18-13 with an RPI of 49. Texas was 19-14 with an RPI of 51. Syracuse was 20-13 with an RPI of 45. Oklahoma, Texas and Syracuse are in. They play in Power Conferences, St. Mary's does not. Simple as that.

P5 schools can lose 13 or 14 games and still make the tournament. Mid-majors need to win at least 25 games to make it as an at-large. Plus, the RPI needs to be in the top 25 for a mid-major to make it as an at-large.

This is so comical and delusional. A member of the Fargo media and an NDSU cheerleader lamenting that NDSU hasn’t even been contacted by the MWC.

https://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2018/03/1...cted-ndsu/

(03-11-2018 08:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  This is so comical and delusional. A member of the Fargo media and an NDSU cheerleader lamenting that NDSU hasn’t even been contacted by the MWC.

https://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2018/03/1...cted-ndsu/

I noticed that McFeely didn't have a comments section on his website. If so I would have posted this.

(03-11-2018 08:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  This is so comical and delusional. A member of the Fargo media and an NDSU cheerleader lamenting that NDSU hasn’t even been contacted by the MWC.

https://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2018/03/1...cted-ndsu/

Almost as ridiculous a Great Northern Conference!

(03-12-2018 08:59 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 08:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  This is so comical and delusional. A member of the Fargo media and an NDSU cheerleader lamenting that NDSU hasn’t even been contacted by the MWC.

https://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2018/03/1...cted-ndsu/

Almost as ridiculous a Great Northern Conference!

Au Contraire

This article proves that FBS is on the lips of some NDSU backers and media. NDSU was opposed to giving UND football a game for years but suddenly was in favor of it? McFeely has written about that too, but hasn’t arrived at the root of the mystery yet. UND and some of its buddies are needed by NDSU football now to patch together a real football league that has FBS potential.

Back to Gonzaga.

(03-12-2018 10:26 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 08:59 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 08:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  This is so comical and delusional. A member of the Fargo media and an NDSU cheerleader lamenting that NDSU hasn’t even been contacted by the MWC.

https://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2018/03/1...cted-ndsu/

Almost as ridiculous a Great Northern Conference!

Au Contraire

This article proves that FBS is on the lips of some NDSU backers and media. NDSU was opposed to giving UND football a game for years but suddenly was in favor of it? McFeely has written about that too, but hasn’t arrived at the mystery yet. UND is needed by NDSU football now, as well as some of UND’s buddies.

Back to Gonzaga.

You've always misread the tea leaves a bit on this issue. The whole article reads like and explanation of why they believe FCS is the "sweetspot" for them. The last paragraph honestly explains their ultimate wet dream.

Bresciani and Larsen have said NDSU will likely wait and see what the changes on the NCAA landscape over the next few years bring before making any decisions. Some have speculated the Power Five conferences (Big Ten, Atlantic Coast Conference, Southeastern Conference, etc.) will split from the rest of college sports, leaving mid-majors from Group of Five to FCS schools lumped together.

(03-12-2018 10:33 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 10:26 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 08:59 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 08:28 PM)NoDak Wrote:  This is so comical and delusional. A member of the Fargo media and an NDSU cheerleader lamenting that NDSU hasn’t even been contacted by the MWC.

https://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2018/03/1...cted-ndsu/

Almost as ridiculous a Great Northern Conference!

Au Contraire

This article proves that FBS is on the lips of some NDSU backers and media. NDSU was opposed to giving UND football a game for years but suddenly was in favor of it? McFeely has written about that too, but hasn’t arrived at the mystery yet. UND is needed by NDSU football now, as well as some of UND’s buddies.

Back to Gonzaga.

You've always misread the tea leaves a bit on this issue. The whole article reads like and explanation of why they believe FCS is the "sweetspot" for them. The last paragraph honestly explains their ultimate wet dream.

Bresciani and Larsen have said NDSU will likely wait and see what the changes on the NCAA landscape over the next few years bring before making any decisions. Some have speculated the Power Five conferences (Big Ten, Atlantic Coast Conference, Southeastern Conference, etc.) will split from the rest of college sports, leaving mid-majors from Group of Five to FCS schools lumped together.

The sweet spot is just an AD talking point in code. He knows they that can’t be P5, but Houston and most other G5’s damn well aren’t moving down to FCS. FCS is even more diverse than FBS. The top of the FCS needs to move to the G5 level, and that’s what the real tea leaves are.

(02-28-2018 06:02 PM)YNot Wrote:  http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spor...story.html[/align]

“Since August,” Thompson said, “I have spoken to six university presidents and/or athletic directors that have called inquiring about whether we are going to expand, and the Zags are one of them.

I guess the adjective I’d use is exploratory. Truthfully, what we’re trying to do here is better ourselves and we’re trying to understand what are your goals and ambitions, and what are the Mountain West’s goals and ambitions. Is there something there? … But obviously, they would enhance our basketball enterprise.”

I'm at a point where I'm very happy with the AAC. East and West leave alone. No BYU in anything. No western wing in any way. No A10 teams.
The lineup we have is as great as CUSA was 1997-2005. Leave a good thing alone.