(03-12-2018 06:57 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 05:39 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 05:23 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-12-2018 07:30 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 01:16 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Im not aware that traditional welfare payments, medicaid or other benefits can be collected by illegals. The 1996 welfare act pretty much says that. However the children of illegals can be on medicaid and collect WIC and other benefits. I also think illegals can apply for one time emergency funds through Social Services.

Im not sure exactly what this article is talking about either...frankly.

And there is is.

The left always uses the "illegals can't collect benefits" argument but always leave out the fact that all it takes is to drop a kid in this country and suddenly all those benefits are accessible.

It's a backdoor into the welfare system.

Of course it is. Ive been in favor of addressing the citizenship issue for decades. Just because you come into the US and have a child should not today constitute citizenship. We should protect that child...but...it and its illegal parent should at some point be returned to their country of origin.

Would you be in favor of a change in the Constitution on that issue?

There actually has been a debate about this among Constitutional scholars for decades in regard to actually what the Constitution says about this. It has never been put before the court for clarification...but...Yes. Id fully be in favor of a Constitutional amendment ending such citizenship. It is clearly being abused by a variety of nationalities..including Chinese and Japanese in order to obtain dual citizenship for their children and pave a path for them to enter the US for school or work later.

and why is that???

b/c both sides have allowed it for personal gain in various scenarios instead of doing the right thing by continuing to create incentive for all colors to get up off their arse and go to work.....

they allowed the 'shortcuts' to continue instead of doing their sworn duty.....

in other words, "THEY FUKKKED YOU, ME, AND ANY OTHER HARD WORKING PERSON." BOTH SIDES SPOILED THE LAST TWO GENERATIONS WITH ABYSMAL DOMESTIC/FOREIGN/ECONOMIC TRADE POLICIES WHICH CREATED AN INTENTIONAL UNEDUCATED MONSTER WELFARE CLASS!!!

that's why I hate politicians and politics....you're living in a cave for the past 60 yrs if you don't understand that 'why'.....you can thank LBJ for kick starting that heart.....then dickhead Nixon piled on with the war on mary-j, and it was off to the race(s).....fk'n idiots....

fools have been played the fool.....it's no different than other forms of macro manipulation over history....

#statusquodickingitis

(03-11-2018 11:20 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  Uh, excuse me, I'm obviously not up on this stuff, but do illegals actually have the ability to collect welfare? How is this possible?

Quote:That’s the finding of recent immigration studies showing the $18 billion wall President Trump plans to build along the southern border will pay for itself by curbing the importation of not only crime and drugs, but poverty.

“The wall could pay for itself even if it only modestly reduced illegal crossings and drug smuggling,” Steven A. Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, told The Post.

If a wall stopped just 200,000 of those future crossings, Camarota says, it would pay for itself in fiscal savings from welfare, public education, refundable tax credits and other benefits currently given to low-income, illegal immigrants from Mexico and Central America.

If a wall stopped 50 percent of those expected crossings, he says, it would save American taxpayers a whopping $64 billion — almost four times the wall’s cost — to say nothing of the additional billions in federal savings from reduced federal drug interdiction and border-security enforcement.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/10/cutting-we...umps-wall/

This shows one of the main reasons the Left is against the wall. Not the cost but the loss of getting the Drugs that many on the left enjoy will be drastically curbed by the wall. Guess They can invest in drones to deliver them.