(03-14-2018 06:58 PM)Chappy Wrote:  I used to think we'd get $3-4 million max, but after seeing the ratings we put up last year in football and now in basketball, I am starting to think we can hit the $8-10 million per team range. If we can bring in half as many viewers, why shouldn't we be able to get 1/3 the money?

I have been saying 6-8 million for some time. We generate the same ratings of a power conference absent the big dogs. Take Ohio state, Penn State and Michigan out of the big ten and we get the same ratings.

(03-14-2018 04:56 PM)monarx Wrote:  Count me among those that aren't happy with the CUSA deal. Nobody seems to know how much money each school will get, but I cant imagine it being more than $500k each considering most of it is on FB and Stadium. Unless its closer to $1M per school I would have rather had everything on ESPN3 and regional linear TV and encouraged better production.

I am surprised some of you guys think this bodes well for the AAC though. I just cant see media groups cutting these crap deals with the SB, CUSA, MAC and then paying out multi-millions to the MW and AAC. I realize you all think you're in a different level... and will grant you that overall things are a higher caliber, but the media outlets are going to lump you in with the rest of us. They'll be thinking "well we got CUSA for $500k per school, we will hold out and get the AAC for $1.2 million per school" or something like that. A rising tide raises all boats, and I don't think it looks like the tide is rising. I cant imagine you will be happy with $2 million or less per school... but would think thats the neighborhood you're going to be at when negotiation happens. I guess we'll see.

The networks want contracts that make them money. The AAC has provided an incredible "bang for the buck" in the tv ratings. ESPN got a great bargain and is making great money with the conference. The other networks have noticed. Low balling isnt going to work when multiple networks know its a good product at a low cost that will make them money. They will want to steal it and will bid it up until it gets to the point where it isnt such a screaming bargain. As a former president of a Network Sports Division--Aresco knows exactly how much ESPN is making on the AAC and will make sure all the other bidders know as well.

Memphis athletic director Tom Bowen made the presentation. At one point, he emphasized the importance of a better conference television deal. He directed the discussion over to Memphis president M. David Rudd to expand on the topic. Whereupon Rudd said that the television deal “won’t be dramatically different”

https://amp.commercialappeal.com/story/414598002

That's just good conservative planning. Not counting your chickens and all. I doubt anyone knows what it will be since it hasn't been negotiated yet.

(03-14-2018 07:38 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Memphis athletic director Tom Bowen made the presentation. At one point, he emphasized the importance of a better conference television deal. He directed the discussion over to Memphis president M. David Rudd to expand on the topic. Whereupon Rudd said that the television deal “won’t be dramatically different”

https://amp.commercialappeal.com/story/414598002

thats vague...we want exactly the same deal expsure wise, we want the exact same deal just with more money
is he talking about money or exposure for increasing the memphis brand that is losing fans

(03-14-2018 07:38 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  Memphis athletic director Tom Bowen made the presentation. At one point, he emphasized the importance of a better conference television deal. He directed the discussion over to Memphis president M. David Rudd to expand on the topic. Whereupon Rudd said that the television deal “won’t be dramatically different”

https://amp.commercialappeal.com/story/414598002

Context is important. He is talking about the Memphis athletic financial situation. They have a 50 million dollar athletics budget and are discussing a million dollar hit for the buy out vs leaving it alone. A six million dollar per team deal means an 8% increase (4 million more than now). Thats what he means when he says "its not a dramatic" difference. Its not like going to Big12 where the TV deal will jump to 22 million a year (almost half the current athletic budget).

the new c-usa deal is 200-400k per

(03-14-2018 07:55 PM)pesik Wrote:  the new c-usa deal is 200-400k per

$400k? Man that sucks. The Mac is making twice that amount (albeit they play football on Tues and Wednesday nights).

The Sun Belt leftovers added a few FCS schools and now make more TV $ than CUSA?

(03-14-2018 04:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  I have a really bad feeling about the next round for us. The G4 seem to be setting a pretty low floor, and my guess is that we'll end up much closer to them than the other P6, especially with ESPN being slowly run into the ground lately.

True but keep in mind new AAC tv ratings are extremely higher now

For the sake of the Sunbelt and C-USA it may be time to revisit this solution and just realign both conferences. It will cut down on travel costs and create regional rivalries.

(03-14-2018 06:04 PM)BigDawg Wrote:  I think the P5 schools will take a big pay cut next time around. Cord cutters are just part of the problem and I just don't think anyone will pony up 30+ million per school. Maybe 20 million, but even that might be high. Honestly I think we double what we make since our ratings make it worthwhile and we'd be a great bargain. I just don't see us getting to 10 million a school.

All good points

Cord cutting has been a major concern for most tv networks particularly ESPN b/c they're the primary providers $$$ for the so called p5's.

I believe Mike Aresco will deliver this league a respectable tv deal.

(03-14-2018 07:55 PM)pesik Wrote:  the new c-usa deal is 200-400k per

$400k and they have to pay to broadcast their own games.

(03-14-2018 09:26 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  For the sake of the Sunbelt and C-USA it may be time to revisit this solution and just realign both conferences. It will cut down on travel costs and create regional rivalries.

Not a bad idea but waaaaay to many headaches

(03-14-2018 09:33 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 07:55 PM)pesik Wrote:  the new c-usa deal is 200-400k per

$400k and they have to pay to broadcast their own games.

Ouch... That's ugly

(03-14-2018 09:33 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 07:55 PM)pesik Wrote:  the new c-usa deal is 200-400k per

$400k and they have to pay to broadcast their own games.

Im reading $400k with no other payments and no production costs, so its a true $400k. Still sucks, but not as bad as that. The simple way to look at this is $200k more per school each year, lousy exposure, still negotiating with ESPN (likely to be streaming some games for no $) with at least 1 year left with Bein. Unimpressive for sure.

C-DOA.

(03-14-2018 04:07 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 04:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 03:57 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Posters on the CUSA board are guessing $500K. They don't seem pleased with the overall deal.

If it is only $500K, that gives me serious pause about CBS Sports and Facebook putting up a competitive bid for the AAC media deal next year. The AAC needs bidders to throw up significant offers in order to get ESPN to increase what we are getting on the current deal. Yes, I expects CBS Sports/Facebook to put more money for the AAC services, and I expect other bidders such as NBC and Fox to jump in as well. That being said I think it is fair to gauge whether CBS Sports is all in by what they are throwing out to CUSA.

This is what I've been saying since day one when everyone keeps throwing out these ridiculous numbers. The financial fall from grace of the media hogs along with the lack of competitive bids is not a landscape that will net us 8-figure per team contracts...it just isn't.

You are right. These people are clueless about financials and economics. They haven’t listened to DIS earnings call every quarter. ESPN will not be increasing the AAC contract that much is guaranteed, maybe some form of increase from second tier rights but it is not coming from ESPN.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspecul...5daa1262f7

https://nypost.com/2017/08/08/espn-is-dr...eys-stock/

(03-14-2018 11:50 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 04:07 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 04:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 03:57 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Posters on the CUSA board are guessing $500K. They don't seem pleased with the overall deal.

If it is only $500K, that gives me serious pause about CBS Sports and Facebook putting up a competitive bid for the AAC media deal next year. The AAC needs bidders to throw up significant offers in order to get ESPN to increase what we are getting on the current deal. Yes, I expects CBS Sports/Facebook to put more money for the AAC services, and I expect other bidders such as NBC and Fox to jump in as well. That being said I think it is fair to gauge whether CBS Sports is all in by what they are throwing out to CUSA.

This is what I've been saying since day one when everyone keeps throwing out these ridiculous numbers. The financial fall from grace of the media hogs along with the lack of competitive bids is not a landscape that will net us 8-figure per team contracts...it just isn't.

You are right. These people are clueless about financials and economics. They haven’t listened to DIS earnings call every quarter. ESPN will not be increasing the AAC contract that much is guaranteed, maybe some form of increase from second tier rights but it is not coming from ESPN.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspecul...5daa1262f7

https://nypost.com/2017/08/08/espn-is-dr...eys-stock/

Maybe the WAC will take you back

(03-14-2018 11:52 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 11:50 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 04:07 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 04:04 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-14-2018 03:57 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Posters on the CUSA board are guessing $500K. They don't seem pleased with the overall deal.

If it is only $500K, that gives me serious pause about CBS Sports and Facebook putting up a competitive bid for the AAC media deal next year. The AAC needs bidders to throw up significant offers in order to get ESPN to increase what we are getting on the current deal. Yes, I expects CBS Sports/Facebook to put more money for the AAC services, and I expect other bidders such as NBC and Fox to jump in as well. That being said I think it is fair to gauge whether CBS Sports is all in by what they are throwing out to CUSA.

This is what I've been saying since day one when everyone keeps throwing out these ridiculous numbers. The financial fall from grace of the media hogs along with the lack of competitive bids is not a landscape that will net us 8-figure per team contracts...it just isn't.

You are right. These people are clueless about financials and economics. They haven’t listened to DIS earnings call every quarter. ESPN will not be increasing the AAC contract that much is guaranteed, maybe some form of increase from second tier rights but it is not coming from ESPN.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspecul...5daa1262f7

https://nypost.com/2017/08/08/espn-is-dr...eys-stock/

Maybe the WAC will take you back

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