How Bad is Pac 12 basketball?? Two of their 3 tournament invites were in play in games and lost. How much TV money do they get paid for this product? Oh their Football is not great either.

(03-15-2018 12:19 AM)hobucken0 Wrote:  How Bad is Pac 12 basketball?? Two of their 3 tournament invites were in play in games and lost. How much TV money do they get paid for this product? Oh their Football is not great either.

1-8 bowl games.

It is very interesting. One must look at it from a ratings perspective because that is really the only thing that matters with TV money. Their basketball is in the pits, maybe they do better at some point in the future because they do have some historic basketball programs, but their ratings always lag. Same goes for the football side........ One must wonder if the conference as a whole is the biggest ripoff to their TV partners. It consistently under performs........ i do feel that if any P conference get a hair cut, the PAC seserves a massive one.

(03-15-2018 05:34 AM)otown Wrote:  It is very interesting. One must look at it from a ratings perspective because that is really the only thing that matters with TV money. Their basketball is in the pits, maybe they do better at some point in the future because they do have some historic basketball programs, but their ratings always lag. Same goes for the football side........ One must wonder if the conference as a whole is the biggest ripoff to their TV partners. It consistently under performs........ i do feel that if any P conference get a hair cut, the PAC seserves a massive one.

Teams out west will always struggle for ratings. Probably why Western expansion doesn't make sense.

(03-15-2018 05:51 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  [quote='otown' pid='15174869' dateline='1521110071']
It is very interesting. One must look at it from a ratings perspective because that is really the only thing that matters with TV money. Their basketball is in the pits, maybe they do better at some point in the future because they do have some historic basketball programs, but their ratings always lag. Same goes for the football side........ One must wonder if the conference as a whole is the biggest ripoff to their TV partners. It consistently under performs........ i do feel that if any P conference get a hair cut, the PAC seserves a massive one.

Teams out west will always struggle for ratings. Probably why Western expansion doesn't make sense.
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Struggling is one thing but exposure and revenue are another. This is one reason Uconn is always on national tv even though you know they're struggling. the aac needs the latter two parts for us to sustain as a conference. there are some good teams out in the west that can be picked up. im all for manifest destiny.

I hope Middle Tennessee and Saint Mary’s go on runs in NIT and their coaches/ads go on Danny white style pr campaigns

AMERICAN POW6R

Maybe we should send USC and OR a lifeboat out of P12 hell..

(03-15-2018 07:56 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Maybe we should send USC and OR a lifeboat out of P12 hell..

Oregon to the WAC confirmed

whatever Fox paid for Pac12...it was too much

But... they're the "conference of champions", right?

Having beaten both the conference tourney finalists this year makes SMU the de facto PAC 12 champion.

Just sayin.

And that being said I like Az to win the whole enchilada this time around.

(03-15-2018 08:43 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  But... they're the "conference of champions", right?

In Volleyball, Beach Volleyball, Rowing, Golf, Swimming & Diving, Water Polo, Skiiing (Colorado and Utah are the top programs in the country)....

Not too many national hardware in football and basketball of late.

Pac 12 ?

More like Crap 12.

Now the top team in the PAC 12 is getting blown out by the MAC Champion.

(03-15-2018 09:01 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 08:43 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  But... they're the "conference of champions", right?

In Volleyball, Beach Volleyball, Rowing, Golf, Swimming & Diving, Water Polo, Skiiing (Colorado and Utah are the top programs in the country)....

Not too many national hardware in football and basketball of late.

No! My Pios (grad degree) is the dominant ski program. Go DU!

The CRAP12 is done. Has a so called power conference ever gone 0-fer in the tourney?

Cincinnati beat UCLA and Buffalo (counting that since they just destroyed Arizona), and SMU beat Arizona and USC, so I am declaring Cincinnati and SMU co-champs of the Pac 12.

Pac 12 GONE!!!

Well it's official, we are now better than the PAC. We had higher seeds, more wins in basketball. We were better in the foosball too.

Climbing that ladder.