RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
(03-21-2018 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm.
Maybe, maybe not. He knows more than you or I do about whether he should or not.
True...but to me, he doesn't act much like an innocent person.
Ok, and how would an "innocent" person act? And how is it different?
See 2:13.
Well, I see that as more a commentary on style than anything signifying guilt or innocence. I like Trey Gowdy, but he is a product of the criminal justice system and believes in that system. Trump isn't and therefore doesn't have the same reverence for it. People have not spent their lives in government are often frustrated at the deliberate pace with which the system works. I see this as far more of that than any indication of guilt. Trump wants tis out of the way so he can move forward with is agenda. Career bureaucrats don't. I think it's more style than substance.
What a guilty person does is try to destroy evidence. Like Hillary did. There's no indication that Trump has done so.
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2018 09:02 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
(03-17-2018 08:53 PM)bullet Wrote:
(03-17-2018 12:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(03-17-2018 12:48 PM)gdunn Wrote:
(03-17-2018 10:32 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:
(03-17-2018 09:50 AM)gdunn Wrote: His tax returns are private, nobody but the taxpayer has the right to release those.
And when his administration collapses in financial scandal after financial scandal, and the splatter engenders a Democratic takeover of just about everything by 2021....you can ask yourself....'was it a good idea to nominate and elect a candidate with as many financial warning signs as Trump and who refused to be transparent with the American people?'
Enjoy the scandals. And possibly House Speaker Adam Schiff. And possibly Senate Majority Leader Kamala Harris. And possibly President Kirstin Gillibrand. And when they take over, they won't have a Republican Congress to worry about. And the next couple of years is going to wipe out much of the GOP gerrymandering. And a bunch of states will go to automatic voter registration.
In a few years, just think......'we could have had Kasich'.
And the longer you wait on the investigation, the longer and worse the backlash is going to be.
You steer the OP into whataboutism, then when called you steer even harder. You sir are hopeless.
LOL, you're free to argue that Trump's finances are not relevant to the investigations swirling around his administration. Or that y'all's decision to support an untransparent candidate and President didn't come without significant risks.
I get it. Trump throws a Mega-Snowflake level hissy fit anytime anyone looks at his finances. But they're relevant and will be so until we get the transparency.
Why do you think that Mueller is subpoenaing Trump Organization docs? Its all going to boil down to money and finances.
Mueller is on a fishing expedition and has nothing much to show for his work.
RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
(03-21-2018 08:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-21-2018 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Maybe, maybe not. He knows more than you or I do about whether he should or not.
True...but to me, he doesn't act much like an innocent person.
Ok, and how would an "innocent" person act? And how is it different?
See 2:13.
Well, I see that as more a commentary on style than anything signifying guilt or innocence. I like Trey Gowdy, but he is a product of the criminal justice system and believes in that system. Trump isn't and therefore doesn't have the same reverence for it. People have not spent their lives in government are often frustrated at the deliberate pace with which the system works. I see this as far more of that than any indication of guilt. Trump wants tis out of the way so he can move forward with is agenda. Career bureaucrats don't. I think it's more style than substance.
What a guilty person does is try to destroy evidence. Like Hillary did. There's no indication that Trump has done so.
Given recent revelations of a Trump owned hotel in Central America destroying subpoenaed documents relating to money laundering, you may have to retract this.
RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
(03-21-2018 05:14 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:
(03-21-2018 08:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-21-2018 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: True...but to me, he doesn't act much like an innocent person.
Ok, and how would an "innocent" person act? And how is it different?
See 2:13.
Well, I see that as more a commentary on style than anything signifying guilt or innocence. I like Trey Gowdy, but he is a product of the criminal justice system and believes in that system. Trump isn't and therefore doesn't have the same reverence for it. People have not spent their lives in government are often frustrated at the deliberate pace with which the system works. I see this as far more of that than any indication of guilt. Trump wants tis out of the way so he can move forward with is agenda. Career bureaucrats don't. I think it's more style than substance. What a guilty person does is try to destroy evidence. Like Hillary did. There's no indication that Trump has done so.
Given recent revelations of a Trump owned hotel in Central America destroying subpoenaed documents relating to money laundering, you may have to retract this.
“Trump owned hotel,” eh? Exactly how much ownership did Donald Trump have personally? And how involved was he in management?
(This post was last modified: 03-21-2018 06:09 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
(03-21-2018 06:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-21-2018 05:14 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:
(03-21-2018 08:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-21-2018 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:
(03-19-2018 03:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: Ok, and how would an "innocent" person act? And how is it different?
See 2:13.
Well, I see that as more a commentary on style than anything signifying guilt or innocence. I like Trey Gowdy, but he is a product of the criminal justice system and believes in that system. Trump isn't and therefore doesn't have the same reverence for it. People have not spent their lives in government are often frustrated at the deliberate pace with which the system works. I see this as far more of that than any indication of guilt. Trump wants tis out of the way so he can move forward with is agenda. Career bureaucrats don't. I think it's more style than substance. What a guilty person does is try to destroy evidence. Like Hillary did. There's no indication that Trump has done so.
Given recent revelations of a Trump owned hotel in Central America destroying subpoenaed documents relating to money laundering, you may have to retract this.
“Trump owned hotel,” eh? Exactly how much ownership did Donald Trump have personally? And how involved was he in management?
RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Organization, Demanding Documents About Russia
(03-22-2018 01:17 PM)bullet Wrote:
(03-21-2018 06:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-21-2018 05:14 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:
(03-21-2018 08:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:
(03-21-2018 08:34 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: See 2:13.
Well, I see that as more a commentary on style than anything signifying guilt or innocence. I like Trey Gowdy, but he is a product of the criminal justice system and believes in that system. Trump isn't and therefore doesn't have the same reverence for it. People have not spent their lives in government are often frustrated at the deliberate pace with which the system works. I see this as far more of that than any indication of guilt. Trump wants tis out of the way so he can move forward with is agenda. Career bureaucrats don't. I think it's more style than substance. What a guilty person does is try to destroy evidence. Like Hillary did. There's no indication that Trump has done so.
Given recent revelations of a Trump owned hotel in Central America destroying subpoenaed documents relating to money laundering, you may have to retract this.
“Trump owned hotel,” eh? Exactly how much ownership did Donald Trump have personally? And how involved was he in management?