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(03-17-2018 12:54 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
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(03-17-2018 10:32 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
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(03-17-2018 01:04 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. All of his financial affairs are going to be aired out in public. Just like they should have been before the election.

His tax returns are private, nobody but the taxpayer has the right to release those.

And when his administration collapses in financial scandal after financial scandal, and the splatter engenders a Democratic takeover of just about everything by 2021....you can ask yourself....'was it a good idea to nominate and elect a candidate with as many financial warning signs as Trump and who refused to be transparent with the American people?'

Enjoy the scandals. And possibly House Speaker Adam Schiff. And possibly Senate Majority Leader Kamala Harris. And possibly President Kirstin Gillibrand. And when they take over, they won't have a Republican Congress to worry about. And the next couple of years is going to wipe out much of the GOP gerrymandering. And a bunch of states will go to automatic voter registration.

In a few years, just think......'we could have had Kasich'.

And the longer you wait on the investigation, the longer and worse the backlash is going to be.
You steer the OP into whataboutism, then when called you steer even harder. You sir are hopeless.

LOL, you're free to argue that Trump's finances are not relevant to the investigations swirling around his administration. Or that y'all's decision to support an untransparent candidate and President didn't come without significant risks.

I get it. Trump throws a Mega-Snowflake level hissy fit anytime anyone looks at his finances. But they're relevant and will be so until we get the transparency.

Why do you think that Mueller is subpoenaing Trump Organization docs? Its all going to boil down to money and finances.

Mueller is on a fishing expedition and has nothing much to show for his work.
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(03-17-2018 08:43 PM)Crebman Wrote:  Where I've come to disagree with this Mueller probe is this: If his group goes off investigating for "Trump collusion with Russia", and they find unrelated lawbreaking, so be it. What I don't like is veering off from the stated task and going back through stuff from years ago, AND - when finding evidence of wrongdoing by Democrats, essentially ignoring it.

It has all the appearance of a one sided witch hunt to topple a duly elected officeholder because he's not part of the political class... it smells to high heaven.

Coup attempt. And they have NO idea of what a backlash is if they try.
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(03-17-2018 12:30 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 10:32 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 09:50 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(03-17-2018 01:04 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. All of his financial affairs are going to be aired out in public. Just like they should have been before the election.
His tax returns are private, nobody but the taxpayer has the right to release those.
And when his administration collapses in financial scandal after financial scandal, and the splatter engenders a Democratic takeover of just about everything by 2021....you can ask yourself....'was it a good idea to nominate and elect a candidate with as many financial warning signs as Trump and who refused to be transparent with the American people?'
Enjoy the scandals. And possibly House Speaker Adam Schiff. And possibly Senate Majority Leader Kamala Harris. And possibly President Kirstin Gillibrand. And when they take over, they won't have a Republican Congress to worry about. And the next couple of years is going to wipe out much of the GOP gerrymandering. And a bunch of states will go to automatic voter registration.
In a few years, just think......'we could have had Kasich'.
And the longer you wait on the investigation, the longer and worse the backlash is going to be.

I think you've just described my worst nightmare. I think this is what has always scared me a bit about Trump, the idea that he could inspire such a backlash that we as a nation would do stupid stuff like this.

No thanks. I don't want to live in a communist country. By the time we embrace this radical an agenda, I would certainly hope that some country somewhere has firmly resisted communism. And I will move there.

Owl, I was worried about the same thing......but after weighing out the long term options, I had to back a guy that turned millions into billions with the hope that he will win the battle in the end.....

ol' boy took 'em all on and let them know up front....that's the kinda guy I've been waiting for all my life....

if not #DJTexperiment ...... then....

#Costa

I've been consistent on this from day 1.....
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(03-18-2018 03:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  if not #DJTexperiment ...... then....

#Costa

Wait! If the DJT experiment doesn't work out, you are going to start wearing overpriced sunglasses?? 03-lmfao

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(03-18-2018 07:49 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  
(03-18-2018 03:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  if not #DJTexperiment ...... then....

#Costa

Wait! If the DJT experiment doesn't work out, you are going to start wearing overpriced sunglasses?? 03-lmfao

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The Mueller investigation, an investigation still in search of a crime. No collusion, no obstruction, perhaps financial irregularities, depending on how far back we're willing to dig. Remember this though, the Supreme Court will have the final say. Impeachment is a constitutional matter.


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...and here I am only caring about the tariffs.
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(03-19-2018 11:27 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  The Mueller investigation, an investigation still in search of a crime. No collusion, no obstruction, perhaps financial irregularities, depending on how far back we're willing to dig. Remember this though, the Supreme Court will have the final say. Impeachment is a constitutional matter.

Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Papa George, Michael Flynn, Several Russians and a few Russian companies say otherwise.

And he's not done.
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(03-19-2018 11:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:27 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  The Mueller investigation, an investigation still in search of a crime. No collusion, no obstruction, perhaps financial irregularities, depending on how far back we're willing to dig. Remember this though, the Supreme Court will have the final say. Impeachment is a constitutional matter.
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Papa George, Michael Flynn, Several Russians and a few Russian companies say otherwise.
And he's not done.

But at least so far, none of those crimes relate to Trump. And in the case of the Russians, we will probably never gain jurisdiction, and if we do I'm not sure any of them can be prosecuted to conviction.
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(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:27 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  The Mueller investigation, an investigation still in search of a crime. No collusion, no obstruction, perhaps financial irregularities, depending on how far back we're willing to dig. Remember this though, the Supreme Court will have the final say. Impeachment is a constitutional matter.
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Papa George, Michael Flynn, Several Russians and a few Russian companies say otherwise.
And he's not done.

But at least so far, none of those crimes relate to Trump. And in the case of the Russians, we will probably never gain jurisdiction, and if we do I'm not sure any of them can be prosecuted to conviction.

True. But again...he's not done.
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(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:27 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  The Mueller investigation, an investigation still in search of a crime. No collusion, no obstruction, perhaps financial irregularities, depending on how far back we're willing to dig. Remember this though, the Supreme Court will have the final say. Impeachment is a constitutional matter.
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Papa George, Michael Flynn, Several Russians and a few Russian companies say otherwise.
And he's not done.
But at least so far, none of those crimes relate to Trump. And in the case of the Russians, we will probably never gain jurisdiction, and if we do I'm not sure any of them can be prosecuted to conviction.
True. But again...he's not done.

I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.
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(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:27 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  The Mueller investigation, an investigation still in search of a crime. No collusion, no obstruction, perhaps financial irregularities, depending on how far back we're willing to dig. Remember this though, the Supreme Court will have the final say. Impeachment is a constitutional matter.
Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Papa George, Michael Flynn, Several Russians and a few Russian companies say otherwise.
And he's not done.
But at least so far, none of those crimes relate to Trump. And in the case of the Russians, we will probably never gain jurisdiction, and if we do I'm not sure any of them can be prosecuted to conviction.
True. But again...he's not done.

I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.

Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm. 03-wink
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(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Papa George, Michael Flynn, Several Russians and a few Russian companies say otherwise.
And he's not done.
But at least so far, none of those crimes relate to Trump. And in the case of the Russians, we will probably never gain jurisdiction, and if we do I'm not sure any of them can be prosecuted to conviction.
True. But again...he's not done.
I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.
Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm. 03-wink

Maybe, maybe not. He knows more than you or I do about whether he should or not.
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(03-19-2018 03:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  But at least so far, none of those crimes relate to Trump. And in the case of the Russians, we will probably never gain jurisdiction, and if we do I'm not sure any of them can be prosecuted to conviction.
True. But again...he's not done.
I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.
Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm. 03-wink

Maybe, maybe not. He knows more than you or I do about whether he should or not.

True...but to me, he doesn't act much like an innocent person.
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(03-19-2018 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 03:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  True. But again...he's not done.
I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.
Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm. 03-wink
Maybe, maybe not. He knows more than you or I do about whether he should or not.
True...but to me, he doesn't act much like an innocent person.

Ok, and how would an "innocent" person act? And how is it different?
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(03-19-2018 03:39 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 03:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.
Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm. 03-wink
Maybe, maybe not. He knows more than you or I do about whether he should or not.
True...but to me, he doesn't act much like an innocent person.

Ok, and how would an "innocent" person act? And how is it different?
He is punking that dolt Mueller. Trump doesn't fear those clowns .
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(03-19-2018 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 03:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  True. But again...he's not done.
I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.
Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm. 03-wink

Maybe, maybe not. He knows more than you or I do about whether he should or not.

True...but to me, he doesn't act much like an innocent person.

Seems like how an innocent person would act. Outraged about the waste of his time and resources for something he didn't do. I'm outraged about what the FBI did and they didn't do it to me.
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(03-19-2018 04:21 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 03:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 03:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.
Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm. 03-wink
Maybe, maybe not. He knows more than you or I do about whether he should or not.
True...but to me, he doesn't act much like an innocent person.
Seems like how an innocent person would act. Outraged about the waste of his time and resources for something he didn't do. I'm outraged about what the FBI did and they didn't do it to me.

Agree, outrage is just about exactly how an innocent person would act.

Now, what would a guilty person do? Well, let's see, destroy evidence, lie under oath, the things that Hillary did. Hmmm....
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(03-19-2018 12:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:45 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-19-2018 11:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, Papa George, Michael Flynn, Several Russians and a few Russian companies say otherwise.
And he's not done.
But at least so far, none of those crimes relate to Trump. And in the case of the Russians, we will probably never gain jurisdiction, and if we do I'm not sure any of them can be prosecuted to conviction.
True. But again...he's not done.

I understand that, but so far he's not getting warm.

Me thinks the orange one feels a tad bit warm. 03-wink

He feels like someone who is seeing people he knows being driven into bankruptcy by an overzealous prosecutor with a partisan ax to grind.
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