(03-16-2018 09:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 08:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 07:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 07:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 02:32 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Brown is a fantastically successful school. They have an eye popping 3.5 Billion dollar endowment and they're actually moving to a 'no loans' student aid policy that will simply issue grants to all students that qualify for financial aid. So what that means is this. Means based tuition.

They are easily one of the most respected schools in the country. And people will crawl over broken glass to gain admission. They have a 9.3 percent admissions rate. If you come from a poor family and you get in.....basically you go to school for free and will graduate with an Ivy League degree with no debt.

Not providing a venue for Ben Shapiro or similar alt right bloviators with their money at their PRIVATE school isn't going to move the needle much.

Again, if Liberty or Hillsdale can do it, then so can Brown or Cornell.

If you had read the article:

"...We are staunch liberals, lifelong conservatives, avowed libertarians, passionate socialists and everything in between; however, we share a common interest in diversity of thought. As an advisory and watchdog group, SPEAK hopes to facilitate civil debate and open-minded discovery for ourselves and our peers, an environment we argue is currently lacking.
The like-mindedness within our university can only be mitigated by welcoming differing voices into our discourse. Otherwise, how can we be sure that, in Simmons’ words, we do not speak “only of unimportant matters”?

Again, if its wrong for Brown to not welcome all viewpoints equally, then its wrong for Hillsdale or Wheaton to do the same, right? I expect to see Dan Savage at Hillsdale soon, right? I look forward to seeing Kathy Griffin's comedy tour stop by Grove City College or Berry.

There are only a handful of schools excluding liberals. In any event, this is Brown students asking for diversity, not outsiders.

Actually, its more than a handful. And the right wing schools don't allow liberals in many cases to even exist at their schools. At least the liberal schools will allow them to work or attend school there.

Here's a (sadly) not fully inclusive list of schools that are intolerant of equal viewpoints. And I'm leaving schools off like Catholic and Yeshiva University, where like Brown, there is some question as to the level of viewpoint discrimination. I also left off schools that seemed purely to be theological seminaries. Its possible that the information on any one particular school has changed since the research has come out. If you'd like to question any of them, please let me know and we can discuss these schools within the context of how their marginalization compares to that of Brown University.

Houston Baptist, Dallas Baptist, Abilene Christian, Hutson-Tillotsen, Judson, Univ of Mobile, Mississippi College, Baylor, BYU, BYU-Idaho, BYU-Hawai'i, Liberty, Grove City, Wheaton, Ave Maria, Berry, Pensacola Christian, Oral Roberts, Anderson, Blue Mountain, Campellsville, Cumberland, Georgetown (Ky), Shorter, Mary Hardin-Baylor, Louisiana College, Oklahoma Baptist, Oachita Baptist, Charleston Southern, North Greenville, Bob Jones, Williams, William Carey, Union (Tenn), Belhaven, Huntington (Ind), George Fox, Harding, Andrews (Mich), Ashbury, Bethel College, Biola, Bryan, Carson-Newman, Colorado Christian, Corban, Covanent, Crown (Minn), Dordt, East Texas Baptist, Evangel (ind.), Franciscan University of Steubenville, Freed-Hardeman, Geneva College, Gordon College (Mass), Hannibal-LaGrange, Indiana Weslyan, Northwest Nazerene, Nyack College, Ohio Christian, Oklahoma Weslyan, Olivet Nazerene, Point Loma Nazarene, Regent University, Simpson University, Southeastern (Fla), Southern Nazarene, Southern Weslyan, Southwest Baptist, Southwestern Assemblies of God University, Spring Arbor University, Tabor College, Wayland Baptist, William Jessup.

Pick a school, any school on that list, and lets discuss the whole issue of viewpoint discrimination, marginalization, employment and admissions discrimination, etc. within the context of what private schools can do, and what they should be doing in those areas. We can pull campus policy documents, look at the history of viewpoint discrimination etc. read the student and faculty handbooks, etc.

How about Baylor? Its well known. And its not like BYU which is wholly owned by a denomination.

(03-16-2018 09:24 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 09:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 08:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 07:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 07:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  If you had read the article:

"...We are staunch liberals, lifelong conservatives, avowed libertarians, passionate socialists and everything in between; however, we share a common interest in diversity of thought. As an advisory and watchdog group, SPEAK hopes to facilitate civil debate and open-minded discovery for ourselves and our peers, an environment we argue is currently lacking.
The like-mindedness within our university can only be mitigated by welcoming differing voices into our discourse. Otherwise, how can we be sure that, in Simmons’ words, we do not speak “only of unimportant matters”?

Again, if its wrong for Brown to not welcome all viewpoints equally, then its wrong for Hillsdale or Wheaton to do the same, right? I expect to see Dan Savage at Hillsdale soon, right? I look forward to seeing Kathy Griffin's comedy tour stop by Grove City College or Berry.

There are only a handful of schools excluding liberals. In any event, this is Brown students asking for diversity, not outsiders.

Actually, its more than a handful. And the right wing schools don't allow liberals in many cases to even exist at their schools. At least the liberal schools will allow them to work or attend school there.

Here's a (sadly) not fully inclusive list of schools that are intolerant of equal viewpoints. And I'm leaving schools off like Catholic and Yeshiva University, where like Brown, there is some question as to the level of viewpoint discrimination. I also left off schools that seemed purely to be theological seminaries. Its possible that the information on any one particular school has changed since the research has come out. If you'd like to question any of them, please let me know and we can discuss these schools within the context of how their marginalization compares to that of Brown University.

Houston Baptist, Dallas Baptist, Abilene Christian, Hutson-Tillotsen, Judson, Univ of Mobile, Mississippi College, Baylor, BYU, BYU-Idaho, BYU-Hawai'i, Liberty, Grove City, Wheaton, Ave Maria, Berry, Pensacola Christian, Oral Roberts, Anderson, Blue Mountain, Campellsville, Cumberland, Georgetown (Ky), Shorter, Mary Hardin-Baylor, Louisiana College, Oklahoma Baptist, Oachita Baptist, Charleston Southern, North Greenville, Bob Jones, Williams, William Carey, Union (Tenn), Belhaven, Huntington (Ind), George Fox, Harding, Andrews (Mich), Ashbury, Bethel College, Biola, Bryan, Carson-Newman, Colorado Christian, Corban, Covanent, Crown (Minn), Dordt, East Texas Baptist, Evangel (ind.), Franciscan University of Steubenville, Freed-Hardeman, Geneva College, Gordon College (Mass), Hannibal-LaGrange, Indiana Weslyan, Northwest Nazerene, Nyack College, Ohio Christian, Oklahoma Weslyan, Olivet Nazerene, Point Loma Nazarene, Regent University, Simpson University, Southeastern (Fla), Southern Nazarene, Southern Weslyan, Southwest Baptist, Southwestern Assemblies of God University, Spring Arbor University, Tabor College, Wayland Baptist, William Jessup.

Pick a school, any school on that list, and lets discuss the whole issue of viewpoint discrimination, marginalization, employment and admissions discrimination, etc. within the context of what private schools can do, and what they should be doing in those areas. We can pull campus policy documents, look at the history of viewpoint discrimination etc. read the student and faculty handbooks, etc.

How about Baylor? Its well known. And its not like BYU which is wholly owned by a denomination.

Ok. Baylor.

Now the exercise is to simply find a case where Baylor University engaged in anti-liberal viewpoint discrimination.

Here is Baylor cancelling a Law School Alum's speech at BU simply because he wrote two op eds in the Waco paper https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/tex...in-chapel/ (NOTE the source)

Here's their current policy on sexuality. Note the policy mentions advocacy https://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/...p?id=32295

Here's their policy on outside speakers. https://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/...p?id=32253

Its unclear whether a married Gay person can be employed at BU.

BU did revise its policy regarding its students, but the LGBT group still cannot meet on campus. Not just can't have a speaker that the administration doesn't want, but can't meet on campus. I will note that, starting in January of this year, the LGBT group did advertise the activities of the LGBT group on campus, without disciplinary action by the University.


I'd rank it as "better than some conservative schools, but worse than Brown". What say you?

(03-16-2018 12:34 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its a private school.

Should Liberty University seek diversity in its speakers?

You remind me of Gomer Pyle but with this instead; deflect deflect deflect.

(03-16-2018 04:33 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 03:03 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 02:50 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 02:32 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Not providing a venue for Ben Shapiro or similar alt right bloviators with their money at their PRIVATE school isn't going to move the needle much.

The left will tolerate anything except for anyone who disagrees with anything the the left believes.

At least Evangelicals and Conservatives can be employed at and attend Brown.

What part of PRIVATE do you not understand? Is the only reason why this is somehow bad is because

1) Its supposedly conservatives that feel marginalized. Apparently its the privilege of conservatives and evangelicals to force their views on others, but they don't need to make any accommodations for liberals and those outside their religious dictates at their schools

OR

2) Brown should be condemned for its behavior because it hasn't 'parked' its supposed discrimination in the guise of following a religion.

and illegal aliens should gtfo and voters should have a voter id and lowlife dems should amend the constitution as provided if they want our guns.

rules matter, right

Not to Tom and his boyfriends.

Again, the OP appears to be a cherrypicked case trying to paint two false narratives

1) That Conservatives are the only ones discriminated against by viewpoint discrimination at private institutions
2) That academia is inherently conservative.

If anyone wants to discuss the issue of viewpoint discrimination at private schools and do so consistently, I'm all ears.

(03-16-2018 09:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 09:24 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 09:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 08:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 07:41 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, if its wrong for Brown to not welcome all viewpoints equally, then its wrong for Hillsdale or Wheaton to do the same, right? I expect to see Dan Savage at Hillsdale soon, right? I look forward to seeing Kathy Griffin's comedy tour stop by Grove City College or Berry.

There are only a handful of schools excluding liberals. In any event, this is Brown students asking for diversity, not outsiders.

Actually, its more than a handful. And the right wing schools don't allow liberals in many cases to even exist at their schools. At least the liberal schools will allow them to work or attend school there.

Here's a (sadly) not fully inclusive list of schools that are intolerant of equal viewpoints. And I'm leaving schools off like Catholic and Yeshiva University, where like Brown, there is some question as to the level of viewpoint discrimination. I also left off schools that seemed purely to be theological seminaries. Its possible that the information on any one particular school has changed since the research has come out. If you'd like to question any of them, please let me know and we can discuss these schools within the context of how their marginalization compares to that of Brown University.

Houston Baptist, Dallas Baptist, Abilene Christian, Hutson-Tillotsen, Judson, Univ of Mobile, Mississippi College, Baylor, BYU, BYU-Idaho, BYU-Hawai'i, Liberty, Grove City, Wheaton, Ave Maria, Berry, Pensacola Christian, Oral Roberts, Anderson, Blue Mountain, Campellsville, Cumberland, Georgetown (Ky), Shorter, Mary Hardin-Baylor, Louisiana College, Oklahoma Baptist, Oachita Baptist, Charleston Southern, North Greenville, Bob Jones, Williams, William Carey, Union (Tenn), Belhaven, Huntington (Ind), George Fox, Harding, Andrews (Mich), Ashbury, Bethel College, Biola, Bryan, Carson-Newman, Colorado Christian, Corban, Covanent, Crown (Minn), Dordt, East Texas Baptist, Evangel (ind.), Franciscan University of Steubenville, Freed-Hardeman, Geneva College, Gordon College (Mass), Hannibal-LaGrange, Indiana Weslyan, Northwest Nazerene, Nyack College, Ohio Christian, Oklahoma Weslyan, Olivet Nazerene, Point Loma Nazarene, Regent University, Simpson University, Southeastern (Fla), Southern Nazarene, Southern Weslyan, Southwest Baptist, Southwestern Assemblies of God University, Spring Arbor University, Tabor College, Wayland Baptist, William Jessup.

Pick a school, any school on that list, and lets discuss the whole issue of viewpoint discrimination, marginalization, employment and admissions discrimination, etc. within the context of what private schools can do, and what they should be doing in those areas. We can pull campus policy documents, look at the history of viewpoint discrimination etc. read the student and faculty handbooks, etc.

How about Baylor? Its well known. And its not like BYU which is wholly owned by a denomination.

Ok. Baylor.

Now the exercise is to simply find a case where Baylor University engaged in anti-liberal viewpoint discrimination.

Here is Baylor cancelling a Law School Alum's speech at BU simply because he wrote two op eds in the Waco paper https://www.baptiststandard.com/news/tex...in-chapel/ (NOTE the source)

Here's their current policy on sexuality. Note the policy mentions advocacy https://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/...p?id=32295

Here's their policy on outside speakers. https://www.baylor.edu/student_policies/...p?id=32253

Its unclear whether a married Gay person can be employed at BU.

BU did revise its policy regarding its students, but the LGBT group still cannot meet on campus. Not just can't have a speaker that the administration doesn't want, but can't meet on campus. I will note that, starting in January of this year, the LGBT group did advertise the activities of the LGBT group on campus, without disciplinary action by the University.


I'd rank it as "better than some conservative schools, but worse than Brown". What say you?

There's one issue where Baylor has a religious conviction. And it includes sex outside marriage, not just homosexuality. Other than on sex, have Baylor students complained about not getting speakers? I have a liberal Muslim friend from Baylor who has never complained about the school and seemed to have a good experience.

There are a lot of universities who have been silencing any strong conservatives and those who defend free speech (Evergreen St. for example). I haven't heard of Brown doing that. But this article is pointing out how tilted their speakers are, so they probably are.

(03-17-2018 10:23 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, the OP appears to be a cherrypicked case trying to paint two false narratives

1) That Conservatives are the only ones discriminated against by viewpoint discrimination at private institutions
2) That academia is inherently conservative.

If anyone wants to discuss the issue of viewpoint discrimination at private schools and do so consistently, I'm all ears.

Academia is not inherently conservative. If you deny that they are overwhelmingly liberal, you are just ignoring all evidence.

Religious institutions do have viewpoints and missions. But what is happening is that non-religious institutions are violating their own policies and missions. Again, the article quotes Darmouth's president on the value of seeking out diverse viewpoints. And they constantly talk about diversity, but are trying to enforce conformity. They want people who look different but think exactly alike.

(03-17-2018 10:23 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, the OP appears to be a cherrypicked case trying to paint two false narratives
1) That Conservatives are the only ones discriminated against by viewpoint discrimination at private institutions
2) That academia is inherently conservative.
If anyone wants to discuss the issue of viewpoint discrimination at private schools and do so consistently, I'm all ears.

I will definitely agree that any assertion that academia is inherently conservative is a false narrative. As for your item 1, I'm not sure that anyone is arguing that. I find it amusing that you seem so offended by any discrimination against a leftist point of view, not matter how extreme, but seem perfectly okay with discrimination against conservatives. How about if you try to be offended by both or okay with both? Pick either and be consistent.

I'm perfectly willing to discuss what Private schools are legally able to do, and what they SHOULD be doing.


My view is this. Private schools that don't take taxpayer subsidies should be legally allowed to discriminate, but they shouldn't discriminate. That being said, cynical, one-sided arguments and special set asides for discrimination simply based on the fact that they somehow 'park' that discrimination in some religious context don't cut it for me.

And groups that discriminate should not complain if people discriminate against them in retaliation.

And if you take tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of thousands of student spots for liberals out of reach due to overtly discriminatory policies, don't be surprised if those people gravitate towards institutions that will accept them.

Given the strong leftist lean of university faculties and administrators, I would guess that there is far more discrimination against conservative voices than the other way.

(03-17-2018 12:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Given the strong leftist lean of university faculties and administrators, I would guess that there is far more discrimination against conservative voices than the other way.

I'd strongly disagree.

You have to incorporate the strength of the discrimination. Please name one University that has a blanket ban on Conservative employees? I can name many that have a ban on LGBT/Liberal employees

You guys whine about the ability of Conservative groups to bring controversial/offensive speakers on campus. I'm complaining about the inability at many Conservative schools for liberal students to even exist, or to even have on campus groups to even meet on campus.

Perspective.

(03-17-2018 12:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 12:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Given the strong leftist lean of university faculties and administrators, I would guess that there is far more discrimination against conservative voices than the other way.

I'd strongly disagree.
You have to incorporate the strength of the discrimination. Please name one University that has a blanket ban on Conservative employees? I can name many that have a ban on LGBT/Liberal employees
You guys whine about the ability of Conservative groups to bring controversial/offensive speakers on campus. I'm complaining about the inability at many Conservative schools for liberal students to even exist, or to even have on campus groups to even meet on campus.
Perspective.

Even granting your point about incorporating strength, the run of play is probably 90-10 leftist. Hard to see how a few extreme positions going the other way would be enough to level the feel.

As far as your, "You guys whine...," comment, feel free either 1) to point out a situation where I have done such whining, or 2) to retract your comment.

And for the record, why would a leftist student WANT to go to, for example, Liberty?

(03-17-2018 12:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm perfectly willing to discuss what Private schools are legally able to do, and what they SHOULD be doing.


My view is this. Private schools that don't take taxpayer subsidies should be legally allowed to discriminate, but they shouldn't discriminate. That being said, cynical, one-sided arguments and special set asides for discrimination simply based on the fact that they somehow 'park' that discrimination in some religious context don't cut it for me.

And groups that discriminate should not complain if people discriminate against them in retaliation.

And if you take tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of thousands of student spots for liberals out of reach due to overtly discriminatory policies, don't be surprised if those people gravitate towards institutions that will accept them.

Private institutions have the right to limit access to speakers that coincide with their mission. But many private schools restrict speakers in violation of their mission. They proclaim to want a liberal arts education, but limit speech and debate. When they do that they should be criticized. When they ignore their students who want that they should be criticized.

Now someplace like Wellseley (Hillary's all female college) is going to have some restrictions that would not apply to Brown University.

As for religious institutions, you either believe in freedom of religion as defined in the first amendment or you don't. I'm perfectly fine with a Muslim university restricting who speaks there. If Baylor believes premarital sex and gay sex are sins, they are not discriminating by limiting groups promoting that. It just so happens you don't believe as they do.

(03-17-2018 12:58 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 12:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Given the strong leftist lean of university faculties and administrators, I would guess that there is far more discrimination against conservative voices than the other way.

I'd strongly disagree.

You have to incorporate the strength of the discrimination. Please name one University that has a blanket ban on Conservative employees? I can name many that have a ban on LGBT/Liberal employees

You guys whine about the ability of Conservative groups to bring controversial/offensive speakers on campus. I'm complaining about the inability at many Conservative schools for liberal students to even exist, or to even have on campus groups to even meet on campus.

Perspective.

The largest universities overwhelmingly employ liberal professors. That has been well documented. Some departments like English, History, Psychology and Social Work are almost exclusively liberal. And they use faculty review of tenure to cull out conservative voices.

Private religious institutions are a small part of college employment.

(03-17-2018 03:49 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 12:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm perfectly willing to discuss what Private schools are legally able to do, and what they SHOULD be doing.


My view is this. Private schools that don't take taxpayer subsidies should be legally allowed to discriminate, but they shouldn't discriminate. That being said, cynical, one-sided arguments and special set asides for discrimination simply based on the fact that they somehow 'park' that discrimination in some religious context don't cut it for me.

And groups that discriminate should not complain if people discriminate against them in retaliation.

And if you take tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of thousands of student spots for liberals out of reach due to overtly discriminatory policies, don't be surprised if those people gravitate towards institutions that will accept them.

Private institutions have the right to limit access to speakers that coincide with their mission. But many private schools restrict speakers in violation of their mission. They proclaim to want a liberal arts education, but limit speech and debate. When they do that they should be criticized. When they ignore their students who want that they should be criticized.

Now someplace like Wellseley (Hillary's all female college) is going to have some restrictions that would not apply to Brown University.

As for religious institutions, you either believe in freedom of religion as defined in the first amendment or you don't. I'm perfectly fine with a Muslim university restricting who speaks there. If Baylor believes premarital sex and gay sex are sins, they are not discriminating by limiting groups promoting that. It just so happens you don't believe as they do.

Again, so the solution is for Brown to announce. "we're now affiliated with the Church of Reason. As a result, we can stifle campus speech" You good with that?

How would inviting someone like Cernovich to campus actually contribute to discourse? I'd let him speak, but he's not really contributing to a fact based debate. I'm sure if Jonah Goldberg was invited, they'd let him speak. Milo, James O'Keefe, Alex Jones, Cernovich, Jim Hoff.....nah.

Conservative schools ignore their students too.

Again, you can't credibly have one set of rules for Hillsdale and another for Brown.

(03-18-2018 10:11 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 03:49 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 12:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm perfectly willing to discuss what Private schools are legally able to do, and what they SHOULD be doing.


My view is this. Private schools that don't take taxpayer subsidies should be legally allowed to discriminate, but they shouldn't discriminate. That being said, cynical, one-sided arguments and special set asides for discrimination simply based on the fact that they somehow 'park' that discrimination in some religious context don't cut it for me.

And groups that discriminate should not complain if people discriminate against them in retaliation.

And if you take tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of thousands of student spots for liberals out of reach due to overtly discriminatory policies, don't be surprised if those people gravitate towards institutions that will accept them.

Private institutions have the right to limit access to speakers that coincide with their mission. But many private schools restrict speakers in violation of their mission. They proclaim to want a liberal arts education, but limit speech and debate. When they do that they should be criticized. When they ignore their students who want that they should be criticized.

Now someplace like Wellseley (Hillary's all female college) is going to have some restrictions that would not apply to Brown University.

As for religious institutions, you either believe in freedom of religion as defined in the first amendment or you don't. I'm perfectly fine with a Muslim university restricting who speaks there. If Baylor believes premarital sex and gay sex are sins, they are not discriminating by limiting groups promoting that. It just so happens you don't believe as they do.

Again, so the solution is for Brown to announce. "we're now affiliated with the Church of Reason. As a result, we can stifle campus speech" You good with that?

How would inviting someone like Cernovich to campus actually contribute to discourse? I'd let him speak, but he's not really contributing to a fact based debate. I'm sure if Jonah Goldberg was invited, they'd let him speak. Milo, James O'Keefe, Alex Jones, Cernovich, Jim Hoff.....nah.

Conservative schools ignore their students too.

Again, you can't credibly have one set of rules for Hillsdale and another for Brown.

97% liberal. You are deflecting again. They aren't inviting Condis, let alone Alex Jones.

(03-18-2018 10:11 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 03:49 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(03-17-2018 12:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  I'm perfectly willing to discuss what Private schools are legally able to do, and what they SHOULD be doing.
My view is this. Private schools that don't take taxpayer subsidies should be legally allowed to discriminate, but they shouldn't discriminate. That being said, cynical, one-sided arguments and special set asides for discrimination simply based on the fact that they somehow 'park' that discrimination in some religious context don't cut it for me.
And groups that discriminate should not complain if people discriminate against them in retaliation.
And if you take tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of thousands of student spots for liberals out of reach due to overtly discriminatory policies, don't be surprised if those people gravitate towards institutions that will accept them.

Private institutions have the right to limit access to speakers that coincide with their mission. But many private schools restrict speakers in violation of their mission. They proclaim to want a liberal arts education, but limit speech and debate. When they do that they should be criticized. When they ignore their students who want that they should be criticized.
Now someplace like Wellseley (Hillary's all female college) is going to have some restrictions that would not apply to Brown University.
As for religious institutions, you either believe in freedom of religion as defined in the first amendment or you don't. I'm perfectly fine with a Muslim university restricting who speaks there. If Baylor believes premarital sex and gay sex are sins, they are not discriminating by limiting groups promoting that. It just so happens you don't believe as they do.

Again, so the solution is for Brown to announce. "we're now affiliated with the Church of Reason. As a result, we can stifle campus speech" You good with that?
How would inviting someone like Cernovich to campus actually contribute to discourse? I'd let him speak, but he's not really contributing to a fact based debate. I'm sure if Jonah Goldberg was invited, they'd let him speak. Milo, James O'Keefe, Alex Jones, Cernovich, Jim Hoff.....nah.
Conservative schools ignore their students too.
Again, you can't credibly have one set of rules for Hillsdale and another for Brown.

Okay, I can’t have different rules for Brown and Hillsdale, but Brown and Hillsdale can adopt different rules from each other. As for your hypothetical about Brown and the “Church of Reason,” Brown hasn’t done that. If they want to deny conservative voices, they need to be honest about it. I wouldn’t have a problem if they did that. If left leaning schools want to be honest and say, “We lean left, if you don’t you probably don’t want to come here,” I’d be okay with that. What bothers me is for them to pretend they are in the center, and then exclude one point of view.