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Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/senate-v...-bill.html

A GOP-backed measure to fund Trump’s border wall and offer limited legal protections for some immigrants failed in a 50-47 vote. Three senators — Democrat Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Republicans Tom Cotton of Arkansas and Mike Lee of Utah — broke with their parties.

A plan supported by Democrats (a plan to reopen the government without funding for President Donald Trump’s border wall) fared better, but still fell short in a 52-44 vote. Six Republican senators supported it: Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Susan Collins of Maine, Cory Gardner of Colorado, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Mitt Romney of Utah.

I want to find out which senators didn't vote on either bill. Those are the ones I think I'm maddest at.
01-24-2019 04:17 PM
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
...and?...
01-24-2019 04:25 PM
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
On the first vote, Rosen-NV, Paul-KY and Risch-ID didn't vote. Paul is probably in Canada for his hernia surgery (or recovering from it) so I'll give him a pass.
01-24-2019 04:29 PM
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
After the votes failed, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell asked him to meet in the Republican’s office. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he spoke to Trump and told him senators were discussing a three-week continuing resolution to fund the government. Graham believes “we could find a way forward to produce a bill that he would sign that would be good for everybody in the country.

He called Trump’s requests “imminently reasonable” and said McConnell and Schumer would be discussing them. A group of bipartisan senators including Murkowski, Collins, Democrats Ben Cardin of Maryland, Mark Warner of Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, also called to temporarily reopen nine departments while the border security debate proceeds.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/senate-v...-bill.html

At least they haven't given up yet.
01-24-2019 04:36 PM
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
Oh sorry - posted this in wrong forum. Mods please delete
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
(01-24-2019 04:36 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  After the votes failed, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell asked him to meet in the Republican’s office. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he spoke to Trump and told him senators were discussing a three-week continuing resolution to fund the government. Graham believes “we could find a way forward to produce a bill that he would sign that would be good for everybody in the country.

He called Trump’s requests “imminently reasonable” and said McConnell and Schumer would be discussing them. A group of bipartisan senators including Murkowski, Collins, Democrats Ben Cardin of Maryland, Mark Warner of Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, also called to temporarily reopen nine departments while the border security debate proceeds.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/senate-v...-bill.html

I was hoping you had somehow misquoted the article (e.g. perhaps you were retyping the quoted language, and auto-correct pulled a fast one, as it sometimes does). But it looks like the CNBC reporter really did write "imminently" rather than "eminently". Sigh...
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
(01-24-2019 06:50 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 04:36 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  After the votes failed, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell asked him to meet in the Republican’s office. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he spoke to Trump and told him senators were discussing a three-week continuing resolution to fund the government. Graham believes “we could find a way forward to produce a bill that he would sign that would be good for everybody in the country.

He called Trump’s requests “imminently reasonable” and said McConnell and Schumer would be discussing them. A group of bipartisan senators including Murkowski, Collins, Democrats Ben Cardin of Maryland, Mark Warner of Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, also called to temporarily reopen nine departments while the border security debate proceeds.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/senate-v...-bill.html

I was hoping you had somehow misquoted the article (e.g. perhaps you were retyping the quoted language, and auto-correct pulled a fast one, as it sometimes does). But it looks like the CNBC reporter really did write "imminently" rather than "eminently". Sigh...

Not an error - her means that Trump is about to make new requests that will be reasonable. Trump's current demands are not.
01-24-2019 08:01 PM
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
(01-24-2019 08:01 PM)MOBalum Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 06:50 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 04:36 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  After the votes failed, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell asked him to meet in the Republican’s office. Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said he spoke to Trump and told him senators were discussing a three-week continuing resolution to fund the government. Graham believes “we could find a way forward to produce a bill that he would sign that would be good for everybody in the country.

He called Trump’s requests “imminently reasonable” and said McConnell and Schumer would be discussing them. A group of bipartisan senators including Murkowski, Collins, Democrats Ben Cardin of Maryland, Mark Warner of Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, also called to temporarily reopen nine departments while the border security debate proceeds.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/senate-v...-bill.html

I was hoping you had somehow misquoted the article (e.g. perhaps you were retyping the quoted language, and auto-correct pulled a fast one, as it sometimes does). But it looks like the CNBC reporter really did write "imminently" rather than "eminently". Sigh...

Not an error - her means that Trump is about to make new requests that will be reasonable. Trump's current demands are not.

Thsat wasn’t the meaning and it’s not the idiom.
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
That's the joke, see. The idiom is of course "eminently reasonable", and of course Graham thinks that Trump's offer is reasonable. So I was making a funny by using the meaning of "imminent" as "that which is soon to occur", and doubling up by taking the quote literally to imply that Graham was criticizing Trump's current stance.

Your linguistic pedantry is always spot on, but this time you targeted a (poorly executed) joke.
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
(01-24-2019 09:07 PM)MOBalum Wrote:  That's the joke, see. The idiom is of course "eminently reasonable", and of course Mitch thinks that Trump's offer is reasonable. So I was making a funny by using the meaning of "imminent" as "that which is soon to occur", and doubling up by taking the quote literally to imply that Mitch was criticizing Trump's current stance.

Your linguistic pedantry is always spot on, but this time you targeted a (poorly executed) joke.

You're right, I didn't realize you were making a joke. Got me!
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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
Dont pay the congressmen and ladies and you would have an agreement in a week
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(01-24-2019 10:49 PM)OldOwl Wrote:  Dont pay the congressmen and ladies and you would have an agreement in a week

Agreed 100%

Also, make them have Medicare or Medicaid for their health insurance. Also, make them have Social Security as their retirement plan. Also, don't give them a lifetime salary.

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RE: Two bills fail in Senate on shutdown
(01-24-2019 11:33 PM)TFW Wrote:  
(01-24-2019 10:49 PM)OldOwl Wrote:  Dont pay the congressmen and ladies and you would have an agreement in a week

Agreed 100%

Also, make them have Medicare or Medicaid for their health insurance. Also, make them have Social Security as their retirement plan. Also, don't give them a lifetime salary.

Shall I go on? 03-hissyfit

I would stop at an Obamacare exchange plan. Those are bad enough.
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