So, the regular season champ gets at automatic NIT bid (even if they get bounced in their first game of the conference tourney) correct?

If so...lets say for example ODU wins the reg. season...and they also win the conference tournament...does the NIT give the auto-bid that would've gone to ODU to the team that finished #2 behind ODU in the regular season standings or does it just go to an at-large team from any conference?

Yes. Whomever finishes #1 in the first pod will go to the NIT regardless of conf. tournament performance. (unless of course, they win).

Whoever finishes at Number 1 in the conference after POD play will get the NIT auto-bid.

But he's asking if the team that finishes #2 if #1 also wins the CUSA tournament and gets the NCAAT auto-bid will get the NIT auto-bid instead. The answer is no.

(02-13-2019 04:33 PM)TTT Wrote:  So, the regular season champ gets at automatic NIT bid (even if they get bounced in their first game of the conference tourney) correct?

If so...lets say for example ODU wins the reg. season...and they also win the conference tournament...does the NIT give the auto-bid that would've gone to ODU to the team that finished #2 behind ODU in the regular season standings or does it just go to an at-large team from any conference?

No. In 2017, CUSA did not get any NIT bids. Last year they received two bids however (MTSU and WKU - didn't ODU turn down a bid perhaps?). I would think this year they'll get at least 1 bid or more because of the current RPI ratings.

(02-13-2019 04:43 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 04:33 PM)TTT Wrote:  So, the regular season champ gets at automatic NIT bid (even if they get bounced in their first game of the conference tourney) correct?

If so...lets say for example ODU wins the reg. season...and they also win the conference tournament...does the NIT give the auto-bid that would've gone to ODU to the team that finished #2 behind ODU in the regular season standings or does it just go to an at-large team from any conference?

No. In 2017, CUSA did not get any NIT bids. Last year they received two bids however (MTSU and WKU - didn't ODU turn down a bid perhaps?). I would think this year they'll get at least 1 bid or more because of the current RPI ratings.

NIT used RPI and not NET? Awesome we might have a chance then if we don't make dance and close season well....I doubt ODU ever turned down an NIT bid, I am sure it was one of those second rate post season tournaments North Texas will brag about winning...

ODU did not turn down a NIT bid.

(02-13-2019 04:43 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 04:33 PM)TTT Wrote:  So, the regular season champ gets at automatic NIT bid (even if they get bounced in their first game of the conference tourney) correct?

If so...lets say for example ODU wins the reg. season...and they also win the conference tournament...does the NIT give the auto-bid that would've gone to ODU to the team that finished #2 behind ODU in the regular season standings or does it just go to an at-large team from any conference?

No. In 2017, CUSA did not get any NIT bids. Last year they received two bids however (MTSU and WKU - didn't ODU turn down a bid perhaps?). I would think this year they'll get at least 1 bid or more because of the current RPI ratings.

Last year it was NCAA/NIT or bust. And we bust.

No one in CUSA is turning down NIT bid. Now the CBA, CBI, CBS tournaments the top 4 or 5 programs will never play in those while teams below the top programs in this conference will. WKU will never play in those second rate postseason tournaments and I agree they should not...

(02-14-2019 08:44 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No one in CUSA is turning down NIT bid. Now the CBA, CBI, CBS tournaments the top 4 or 5 programs will never play in those while teams below the top programs in this conference will. WKU will never play in those second rate postseason tournaments and I agree they should not...

I mean, ODU has done it in years past and I can see why. If you've got a young core that's building for the future then it's a really good way to get experience and game time. Now, if you're at the end of a 4 year build out and your best bet is the CBI, something has gone terribly wrong.

(02-14-2019 08:44 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No one in CUSA is turning down NIT bid. Now the CBA, CBI, CBS tournaments the top 4 or 5 programs will never play in those while teams below the top programs in this conference will. WKU will never play in those second rate postseason tournaments and I agree they should not...

Why should they not? I never understand why people for one think they’re above anything. Two, why would you not want to see your team continuing play? Last, if you’re not in the NCAAs does it really matter? People that put all this stock into the NIT... you’re still a loser that didn’t get into the NCAAs.

(02-14-2019 09:09 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 08:44 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No one in CUSA is turning down NIT bid. Now the CBA, CBI, CBS tournaments the top 4 or 5 programs will never play in those while teams below the top programs in this conference will. WKU will never play in those second rate postseason tournaments and I agree they should not...

Why should they not? I never understand why people for one think they’re above anything. Two, why would you not want to see your team continuing play? Last, if you’re not in the NCAAs does it really matter? People that put all this stock into the NIT... you’re still a loser that didn’t get into the NCAAs.

I am sure the seniors want to keep playing.

(02-14-2019 09:09 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 08:44 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No one in CUSA is turning down NIT bid. Now the CBA, CBI, CBS tournaments the top 4 or 5 programs will never play in those while teams below the top programs in this conference will. WKU will never play in those second rate postseason tournaments and I agree they should not...

Why should they not? I never understand why people for one think they’re above anything. Two, why would you not want to see your team continuing play? Last, if you’re not in the NCAAs does it really matter? People that put all this stock into the NIT... you’re still a loser that didn’t get into the NCAAs.

Programs have different standards...At WKU its NCAA Or NIT, everyone knows this including our players, fans, admin., etc.....The other tournaments would do nothing for WKU and yes we are above those type of tournaments...NIT is a prestigious tournament still with a lot of history that only 32 teams get invited in including the almighty P5 teams, zero comparison to these other tournaments where not a single P5 team plays in..

In the men's NIT, only the regular-season champion gets an automatic bid, and if they go to the NCAAs, then the bid goes away. Contrast this with the women's NIT, where every conference is guaranteed a bid (it goes to the top team in the conference standings that isn't playing in the NCAAs. Of course, the women's NIT has 64 spots so they have a lot more latitude to give even the lowest of the low-majors a team no matter what.

With regard to the third-line postseason tournaments, I think you're seeing a lot of teams take the NCAA, NIT or No Thanks approach. In the first year of the CBI, you had the likes of Virginia, Oregon, Washington State and Stanford participating, and of the first five champions, three were from power conferences (Oregon, Oregon State, Pitt), one was from CUSA 2.0 (Tulsa) and one was from a mid-major (VCU, which went to the Final Four the next season and eventually the A-10). Now, the last major-conference team to participate was Colorado in 2015, and the last one with at least a .500 record were Oregon State and Texas A&M in 2014. The majors stopped playing, and now the better mids are taking a pass. The CIT was created as a low/mid alternative to the CBI, but now their fields are indistinguishable -- if they can even fill a field.

I think in time the CBI and CIT will merge (or one will die and the other will take sole possession of the third tier), but it'd be better if the NIT followed the path of the WNIT and expanded with automatic entry for all conferences. There could still be that third tier tournament if the demand allows for it, like there is for women (the 16-team WBI).

(02-14-2019 09:09 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 08:44 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No one in CUSA is turning down NIT bid. Now the CBA, CBI, CBS tournaments the top 4 or 5 programs will never play in those while teams below the top programs in this conference will. WKU will never play in those second rate postseason tournaments and I agree they should not...

Why should they not? I never understand why people for one think they’re above anything. Two, why would you not want to see your team continuing play? Last, if you’re not in the NCAAs does it really matter? People that put all this stock into the NIT... you’re still a loser that didn’t get into the NCAAs.

You have to pay to get home games in the CIT and CBI. 30-75k a game.

These games draw poorly on average (ODU drew well under half their normal crowd) and you inevitability lose money.

(02-14-2019 10:39 PM)devyanks90 Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 09:09 AM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(02-14-2019 08:44 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  No one in CUSA is turning down NIT bid. Now the CBA, CBI, CBS tournaments the top 4 or 5 programs will never play in those while teams below the top programs in this conference will. WKU will never play in those second rate postseason tournaments and I agree they should not...

Why should they not? I never understand why people for one think they’re above anything. Two, why would you not want to see your team continuing play? Last, if you’re not in the NCAAs does it really matter? People that put all this stock into the NIT... you’re still a loser that didn’t get into the NCAAs.

You have to pay to get home games in the CIT and CBI. 30-75k a game.

These games draw poorly on average (ODU drew well under half their normal crowd) and you inevitability lose money.

Exactly, I don't understand the crowds that act like these post season tournaments like CBA are must plays or say WKU should not think they are above these third rate tournaments, we are and anyone with any kind of basketball history, tradition etc. should be too....Let North Texas fans brag about these tournaments...