(04-25-2019 12:09 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 10:00 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 03:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 02:55 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 01:45 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Doc had 3 years to beat UCF, 2 of which were down years for UCF.

Don't you think it's mighty convenient that suddenly Doc's system is installed the moment all the competition left the conference?

But that's not the point. Marshall fans are still too easy to troll haha
ECU used to be too, but ever since Ruffin got fired they've been a sad, boring bunch.

When did Doc get his system and kids in place the way he wanted? sure wasn't 2010-2012 (the year USM went 0-12, and took you to overtime..). We did not get it all in place until 2013, do your research man. No it wasn't convenient at all. 2010 Doc did the best he could with trying to mix in freshman talent with snyder leftovers, didn't go so well. 2011, Cato is a freshman, ends up a starter and went through lots of growing pains, 2012, he matured, offense became explosive, only problem was the defense gave up more points than the offense could score, 2013, new coordinator, complete defensive turn around to match our offense, ended the year 10-4 beating Maryland in the Military Bowl. In 2013 MT was tougher than memphis, that same year NT more than replaced Houston. The F schools were subpar, so no we didn't replace UCF at that time. Tulsa, Tulame, ECU were still in the league, ECU was still pretty good, as was MT, we all 3 battled it out in the East. Given that, we never got to prove whether or not we could beat you with the systems in place, that's the facts. We got the offense in place in 2012, but didn't get the defense right until 2013, and waalaa, most improved squad in D1. Thing is you can say what you want, that the competition left, blah blah blah, in most regards, WKU more than replaced Tulsa in performance, LA Tech more than replaced Tulame in performance. I can do this all day. We didn't play when we got the ball rolling, so you don't know, and I don't know. Say what you will. We don't have an issue beating your mates in out of conference or bowl games these days. Cincy may get us this year though.

That's all well and good, congrats and all.

But since 2012, what Marshall teams would have beaten UCF?


2013? - Hell no
2014? - Debatable but unlikely
2015? - Absolutely
2016? - Hell no
2017? - HELL NO
2018? - Absolutely not.


So even after all your word vomit, Marshall is still looking at 4-12 all time series against UCF before the (generous) toss up of 2014.

How does any of that negate the fact that UCF has had Marshall's number?

EDIT: and by the way it's voila

Biggest bunch of hog wash I have ever read. How do you know? That's right, you don't. You didn't play this version of the Herd, we might have lost more than we won but you wouldn't go only 1 loss against us, that's an opinion. So how does anyone know, well you play the game. None has been played in your current version or ours, speculate all you want, it doesn't make it a fact.

Alright then, tell me which games you would have won?

And in the end, when you still have a drastic losing record against UCF, how does that even still yet disprove that UCF owns Marshall?

Who is arguing you don't own the all time record? since you asked my OPINION.

2013- no, would be competitive but you guys win.
2014- yes, would be competitive but we win
2015- you sucked donkey nuts, we win easily, while we had another 10 win season
2016- you win, we might have made a game of it but likely not, we sucked
2017- you win hands down
2018-you win, but not a easily as you think, 2 common opponents, 2 similar results.

That's 4 wins you, 2 wins MU, not exactly owning, but yes winning more than losing. Idiots that troll like you do, make it hard to root for you when you are the one representing all of us in the thanks for playing bowl. Good luck in your attempts to troll more though, its been fun debunking your BS.

(04-25-2019 12:29 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 12:09 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 10:00 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 03:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 02:55 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  When did Doc get his system and kids in place the way he wanted? sure wasn't 2010-2012 (the year USM went 0-12, and took you to overtime..). We did not get it all in place until 2013, do your research man. No it wasn't convenient at all. 2010 Doc did the best he could with trying to mix in freshman talent with snyder leftovers, didn't go so well. 2011, Cato is a freshman, ends up a starter and went through lots of growing pains, 2012, he matured, offense became explosive, only problem was the defense gave up more points than the offense could score, 2013, new coordinator, complete defensive turn around to match our offense, ended the year 10-4 beating Maryland in the Military Bowl. In 2013 MT was tougher than memphis, that same year NT more than replaced Houston. The F schools were subpar, so no we didn't replace UCF at that time. Tulsa, Tulame, ECU were still in the league, ECU was still pretty good, as was MT, we all 3 battled it out in the East. Given that, we never got to prove whether or not we could beat you with the systems in place, that's the facts. We got the offense in place in 2012, but didn't get the defense right until 2013, and waalaa, most improved squad in D1. Thing is you can say what you want, that the competition left, blah blah blah, in most regards, WKU more than replaced Tulsa in performance, LA Tech more than replaced Tulame in performance. I can do this all day. We didn't play when we got the ball rolling, so you don't know, and I don't know. Say what you will. We don't have an issue beating your mates in out of conference or bowl games these days. Cincy may get us this year though.

That's all well and good, congrats and all.

But since 2012, what Marshall teams would have beaten UCF?


2013? - Hell no
2014? - Debatable but unlikely
2015? - Absolutely
2016? - Hell no
2017? - HELL NO
2018? - Absolutely not.


So even after all your word vomit, Marshall is still looking at 4-12 all time series against UCF before the (generous) toss up of 2014.

How does any of that negate the fact that UCF has had Marshall's number?

EDIT: and by the way it's voila

Biggest bunch of hog wash I have ever read. How do you know? That's right, you don't. You didn't play this version of the Herd, we might have lost more than we won but you wouldn't go only 1 loss against us, that's an opinion. So how does anyone know, well you play the game. None has been played in your current version or ours, speculate all you want, it doesn't make it a fact.

Alright then, tell me which games you would have won?

And in the end, when you still have a drastic losing record against UCF, how does that even still yet disprove that UCF owns Marshall?

Who is arguing you don't own the all time record? since you asked my OPINION.

2013- no, would be competitive but you guys win.
2014- yes, would be competitive but we win
2015- you sucked donkey nuts, we win easily, while we had another 10 win season
2016- you win, we might have made a game of it but likely not, we sucked
2017- you win hands down
2018-you win, but not a easily as you think, 2 common opponents, 2 similar results.

That's 4 wins you, 2 wins MU, not exactly owning, but yes winning more than losing. Idiots that troll like you do, make it hard to root for you when you are the one representing all of us in the thanks for playing bowl. Good luck in your attempts to troll more though, its been fun debunking your BS.

So you agree with my original assessment? 2014 was the only toss up and the rest would have been easy to predict?

My original statement was:

"Marshall fans are as easy to trigger as it is to beat them in football"

And from our conversations in this thread, both those points have been proven.

This all started because Marshall fans were piling on Charlotte, and needed to be reminded of their humble recent history. Besides, AAC fans gotta stick up for Charlotte, they'll probably be in the AAC before Marshall anyhow

Teams that went 0'fer just a few years ago shouldn't be bringing up other teams football suck either.

Western Michigan > UCF

(04-25-2019 12:33 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 12:29 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 12:09 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 10:00 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(04-24-2019 03:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  That's all well and good, congrats and all.

But since 2012, what Marshall teams would have beaten UCF?


2013? - Hell no
2014? - Debatable but unlikely
2015? - Absolutely
2016? - Hell no
2017? - HELL NO
2018? - Absolutely not.


So even after all your word vomit, Marshall is still looking at 4-12 all time series against UCF before the (generous) toss up of 2014.

How does any of that negate the fact that UCF has had Marshall's number?

EDIT: and by the way it's voila

Biggest bunch of hog wash I have ever read. How do you know? That's right, you don't. You didn't play this version of the Herd, we might have lost more than we won but you wouldn't go only 1 loss against us, that's an opinion. So how does anyone know, well you play the game. None has been played in your current version or ours, speculate all you want, it doesn't make it a fact.

Alright then, tell me which games you would have won?

And in the end, when you still have a drastic losing record against UCF, how does that even still yet disprove that UCF owns Marshall?

Who is arguing you don't own the all time record? since you asked my OPINION.

2013- no, would be competitive but you guys win.
2014- yes, would be competitive but we win
2015- you sucked donkey nuts, we win easily, while we had another 10 win season
2016- you win, we might have made a game of it but likely not, we sucked
2017- you win hands down
2018-you win, but not a easily as you think, 2 common opponents, 2 similar results.

That's 4 wins you, 2 wins MU, not exactly owning, but yes winning more than losing. Idiots that troll like you do, make it hard to root for you when you are the one representing all of us in the thanks for playing bowl. Good luck in your attempts to troll more though, its been fun debunking your BS.

So you agree with my original assessment? 2014 was the only toss up and the rest would have been easy to predict?

My original statement was:

"Marshall fans are as easy to trigger as it is to beat them in football"

And from our conversations in this thread, both those points have been proven.

This all started because Marshall fans were piling on Charlotte, and needed to be reminded of their humble recent history. Besides, AAC fans gotta stick up for Charlotte, they'll probably be in the AAC before Marshall anyhow

We will see what the future brings, triggered, nah, Scott Frost era will fade but who knows, maybe the guy you have will keep you respectable. If not, FAU is primed to take your spot in the FL pecking order or USF will be your daddy again. Again, 2-4 in a current series wouldn't be considered owning and honestly you are probably the only AAC program that would be able to claim that. Charlotte isn't going anywhere, but if the AAC would rather have them, go for it lol Only way you expand is if a few of you leave, and if that happens, the contract will take a fall. Here's the kicker, no one is going anywhere. Maybe Houston since they have done most of the program improving (facilities top notch) maybe Cincy for same reason, but in all reality, the B12 has no reason to expand and the ACC is out of all AAC school's league academically. So enjoy your spot, nothing is changing.

(04-25-2019 12:42 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Teams that went 0'fer just a few years ago shouldn't be bringing up other teams football suck either.

Western Michigan > UCF

Records since 2014:
• ODU: 30-31, 49.2%
• UCF: 40-24, 62.5%
  

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(04-25-2019 01:37 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 12:42 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Teams that went 0'fer just a few years ago shouldn't be bringing up other teams football suck either.

Western Michigan > UCF

Records since 2014:
• ODU: 30-31, 49.2%
• UCF: 40-24, 62.5%
  

Marshall 44-22 66.6%

(04-25-2019 01:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  [img]via Imgflip Meme Generator[/img]

(04-25-2019 02:20 PM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 01:37 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 12:42 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Teams that went 0'fer just a few years ago shouldn't be bringing up other teams football suck either.

Western Michigan > UCF

Records since 2014:
• ODU: 30-31, 49.2%
• UCF: 40-24, 62.5%
  

Marshall 44-22 66.6%

UCF 2-1 in NY6 bowl games
Marshall 0-0

(04-25-2019 01:37 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 12:42 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Teams that went 0'fer just a few years ago shouldn't be bringing up other teams football suck either.

Western Michigan > UCF

Records since 2014:
• ODU: 30-31, 49.2%
• UCF: 40-24, 62.5%
  

Footage of the parade held in honor of UCF's football "National Title":



Make sure you watch till the end, Mickey himself is the grand marshall.

(04-25-2019 02:37 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

What's better? To lose all at once or lose a lot every season?

(04-25-2019 02:34 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 01:37 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 12:42 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Teams that went 0'fer just a few years ago shouldn't be bringing up other teams football suck either.

Western Michigan > UCF

Records since 2014:
• ODU: 30-31, 49.2%
• UCF: 40-24, 62.5%
  

Footage of the parade held in honor of UCF's football "National Title":



Make sure you watch till the end, Mickey himself is the grand marshall.

Those Disney parades are something else. Maybe ODU will have a season worth having a parade over some day.

(04-25-2019 02:43 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 02:37 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

What's better? To lose all at once or lose a lot every season?

I wouldn’t know. You’d be better fit to answer that one.

clt supports our future conference mates! Go UCF!

(04-25-2019 03:11 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt supports our future conference mates! Go UCF!

mturn wonders why clt is not more worried about Charlotte getting caught up in the college admissions scandal. mturn assumes most of Charlotte's athletes made their teams due to bribing coaches.

(04-25-2019 03:18 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(04-25-2019 03:11 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt supports our future conference mates! Go UCF!

mturn wonders why clt is not more worried about Charlotte getting caught up in the college admissions scandal. mturn assumes most of Charlotte's athletes made their teams due to bribing coaches.

clt says Charlotte is such a good school that people pay to attend it!

Also, go ODU future AAF conf mate!

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