I’ll say 10 for football and 11 for basketball

10/football because that is minimum required to hold a CCG.

11/hoops because that enables 20 conference games per season. Which is the next big thing coming up in men’s basketball.

So when you’re spitballing ideas for a new league, the ideal objective is 10 all-sports members, plus one more that has basketball but not football.

(06-26-2019 06:56 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  I’ll say 10 for football and 11 for basketball

10/football because that is minimum required to hold a CCG.

11/hoops because that enables 20 conference games per season. Which is the next big thing coming up in men’s basketball.

So when you’re spitballing ideas for a new league, the ideal objective is 10 all-sports members, plus one more that has basketball but not football.

Why would anyone want to play 2 extra CUSA games? My guess that would lower the chance of a at large bid by 25% just from playing 2 extra CUSA games...

by the time you add in the conference tourney 23 of the 30 to 32 games will be vs CUSA teams. 10 is a good number for both..unless you go to 9 and play everyone in FB and the top 2 schools meet for the championship

9

Can you still have a football-CCG with only 9 teams?

If yes, then I’m on board. But I thought 10 is the minimum.

(06-26-2019 08:25 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  Can you still have a football-CCG with only 9 teams?

If yes, then I’m on board. But I thought 10 is the minimum.

You're fine as long as you play a round-robin with the nine teams.

10

I think division size is way more important and ideally, it should be 5 or 6.

12 is a great size.

If you could balloon to 18, or even 24, and be able to have a 4-team playoff, that could be better.

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Guaranteed championship every year, unless you get hit with probation.

(06-26-2019 11:02 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  1

Guaranteed championship every year, unless you get hit with probation.

Make it 2 so you don’t get so lonely at the top all by yourself. You still have a 50% chance in every sport every year!

(06-26-2019 08:17 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  9

Yep, even round robin play in both sports, not too many games and you don't dilute both finances and quality. Every conference has over-expanded except the Sun Belt.

Conference title games are wholly overrated and even dangerous (both for ranked teams and those in the national title race). Get 12 teams if it's good for the league.

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10 teams and no more. A conference championship is garbage and hurts small conferences more than helps. Just play 9 conference games, 1 FCS, 1 money game and 1 ooc g-5 team.

I believe a CCG is a requirement for CFP payouts, so you better keep it.

(06-27-2019 08:35 AM)GCEagle Wrote:  I believe a CCG is a requirement for CFP payouts, so you better keep it.

Are you sure? The Big12 didn't for years and only got one because of the TCU-Baylor Incident of 2014. I think CFP can't enforce that if true.

Anyone that says a conference championship game isnt important doesnt know what they are talking about. It's the highest rated FB of the year in the conference... four or five times the ratings for other CUSA games. It's important to the school, players, coaches and fans. I bet every coach in CUSA has a clause in their contract that pays X amount forv making the championship game and X amount for winning it....


if it wasn't important schools wouldn't be willing to pay 25 to 50k more

(06-27-2019 08:31 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  10 teams and no more. A conference championship is garbage and hurts small conferences more than helps. Just play 9 conference games, 1 FCS, 1 money game and 1 ooc g-5 team.

Well this is certainly a dumb argument.

There's a reason why athletic administrations add clauses in contracts about winning conference championship games.

(06-27-2019 11:01 AM)TTT Wrote:  

(06-27-2019 08:31 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  10 teams and no more. A conference championship is garbage and hurts small conferences more than helps. Just play 9 conference games, 1 FCS, 1 money game and 1 ooc g-5 team.

Well this is certainly a dumb argument.

There's a reason why athletic administrations add clauses in contracts about winning conference championship games.

How many times have AAC, CUSA or even MAC teams with a rock solid chance of a BCS or AQ bowl gone in an lost the championship game?? How many times has CUSA alone lost out on BCS money because the championship game ended in an upset? These are relative questions.

(06-27-2019 10:56 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Anyone that says a conference championship game isnt important doesnt know what they are talking about. It's the highest rated FB of the year in the conference... four or five times the ratings for other CUSA games. It's important to the school, players, coaches and fans. I bet every coach in CUSA has a clause in their contract that pays X amount forv making the championship game and X amount for winning it....


if it wasn't important schools wouldn't be willing to pay 25 to 50k more

Once again, there you go with the blatant general-isms. Anyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't know what they are talking about. Try asking why instead of spouting off at the mouth. Whats more valuable 1 or 2 AQ Bowls in a decade or the compilation of 10 Conference Championship games? Its an honest quesiton that begs discussion. As for the coaches contract stuff. Those coaches are paid to win championships whether it be base on that one game or the whole season.

(06-27-2019 11:26 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(06-27-2019 11:01 AM)TTT Wrote:  

(06-27-2019 08:31 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  10 teams and no more. A conference championship is garbage and hurts small conferences more than helps. Just play 9 conference games, 1 FCS, 1 money game and 1 ooc g-5 team.

Well this is certainly a dumb argument.

There's a reason why athletic administrations add clauses in contracts about winning conference championship games.

How many times have AAC, CUSA or even MAC teams with a rock solid chance of a BCS or AQ bowl gone in an lost the championship game?? How many times has CUSA alone lost out on BCS money because the championship game ended in an upset? These are relative questions.

Once in CUSA that i can think of: 2011 when USM buttplugged #6 Houston in the ccg.