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#FreezeRBurnOrange



08-12-2019 12:43 PM
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Go Flames!
08-31-2019 05:05 PM
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Crazy game so far.
0-0 1st Q.
08-31-2019 05:36 PM
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3-0 SU. End of 1st.
08-31-2019 05:48 PM
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10-0 SU. The screen game is hurting the D.
At half.
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08-31-2019 06:33 PM
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Liberty finished the 2 year transition to FBS but this game shows that LU still needs to upgrade the overall talent.
08-31-2019 07:09 PM
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(08-31-2019 07:09 PM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  Liberty finished the 2 year transition to FBS but this game shows that LU still needs to upgrade the overall talent.

17-0 SU.
08-31-2019 07:11 PM
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(08-31-2019 07:09 PM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  Liberty finished the 2 year transition to FBS but this game shows that LU still needs to upgrade the overall talent.

8 sacks allowed so far.
08-31-2019 07:31 PM
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Not a great start to the Freeze era. The defense performed much better than I expected but the offense very underachieved. It's only one game against a strong opponent but we have lots of room for improvement.
08-31-2019 08:37 PM
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(08-31-2019 08:37 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  Not a great start to the Freeze era. The defense performed much better than I expected but the offense very underachieved. It's only one game against a strong opponent but we have lots of room for improvement.

To be honest I view the complete opposite. We lost by 24 to a team that is ranked 22. We should have had 10 points early and that hurt. The o-line was overwhelmed but they were facing the best d-line they’ll see all year. The offense needs to clean up the bad plays and turnovers but I feel really good about our chances the rest of the season.
08-31-2019 10:07 PM
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(08-31-2019 10:07 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  
(08-31-2019 08:37 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  Not a great start to the Freeze era. The defense performed much better than I expected but the offense very underachieved. It's only one game against a strong opponent but we have lots of room for improvement.

To be honest I view the complete opposite. We lost by 24 to a team that is ranked 22. We should have had 10 points early and that hurt. The o-line was overwhelmed but they were facing the best d-line they’ll see all year. The offense needs to clean up the bad plays and turnovers but I feel really good about our chances the rest of the season.

I think the spread was 17 points so that is even less encouraging to me. We have a lot of work to do. Luckily, Lafayette should be much easier despite on the road next week.
09-01-2019 07:30 AM
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Thoughts on the SU game:
- Mack's fumble, granted it was a terrible fumble inside the 5. But why did he not return at all. One would thought after a stint on the bench to contemplate the fumble, he would had another opportunity. I don't like the message that sends, that if one fumbles or makes a huge mistake, they're out of the game.
- Buckshot's play, completely overwhelmed, continual happy feet after about the 5 or 6th sack, in the first half. Rushing throws the few times he had the time to throw. The worst game I can recall him playing. From the first possession onward, he played jittery, nervous and without any poise. As a true drop back passer, with limited mobility, Buckshot exposed a weakness other teams will try to copy
- Defense, kudos to the defense for their much improved play. SU would have doubled that score (like Auburn last year) if the 2018 defense had played.
- Freeze Factor, to all those wondering if LU was going to overachieve for one-game with the motivation of Freeze location in the coaches box, that was answered immediately. He could have imparted confidence and calmness that was missing from the LU sidelines.

And to Syracuse:
- a team worthy of a 20 top rating. And SU was wise to schedule LU, even on the road, to give their new starting QB game experience. SU has a winner with their HC and the program seems poised to continue their 2018 play in 2019.
- SU defense, a special mention is deserved. Coming into the game, their defense was mentioned as their strong suit. That was a true statement. Their defense held LU in check until their QB settled down and their running game got established.

The LU takeaway:
- this game should be a barometer coaches use to remind LU players what it takes to compete at the highest level. SU had better players, and players used to the LU atmosphere much more intensified in the ACC and in bowl games.
- attendance, announced at 21K+ seems a point LU needs to keep a close eye on. Maybe the new program of requiring students to register to receive ID wrist bands kept some away. The weather, setting and time were ideal. And with all the hoopla surrounding the game, one would thought 25k+ would have been the number.
- coaching, SU repeatedly ran short screen passes, many times on 3d down plays, when LU would blitz, and LU coaches did not adjust with SU gaining many first downs.


The critique:
- Multi-million dollar facilities, eye catching amenities and the latest in player attracting offerings are a start. But emphasis with the on-field product needs the highest attention now. Games like this either build character for a team or create doubt. One can take the disappointment and refocus it to improve and become better. Let's hope as HCF improves and gets to the sideline that the play of LU improves. Defensively, a step forward. Offensively, it could not be any worse.
09-01-2019 10:01 AM
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It has been a few days. Some thoughts. Both teams D's played well given their respective situations. I think most LU fans would have said that holding SU to 24 points is a win for the LU D. It shows improvement and received basically no help from the O. Some mistakes cost LU a few points. This game could have been 24 to 3 to 10 range. The O did not make a third down conversion until late in the 3rd Q. That is a problem. The OL looked like FCS recruited players against that P5 DL. It will take a few years (maybe just two) to get the OL into a strong position group with recruiting a development.

The rest of the season.
It looks okay. If the O makes more first downs, then I think it will click more and give a much improved D more time to rest. LU is not likely to face a D that good again (maybe UVA?). I am generally still optimistic for the rest of the season but somewhat disappointed with how the O played.
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09-03-2019 09:38 AM
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(09-03-2019 09:38 AM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  It has been a few days. Some thoughts. Both teams D's played well given their respective situations. I think most LU fans would have said that holding SU to 24 points is a win for the LU D. It shows improvement and received basically no help from the O. Some mistakes cost LU a few points. This game could have been 24 to 3 to 10 range. The O did not make a third down conversion until late in the 3rd Q. That is a problem. The OL looked like FCS recruited players against that P5 DL. It will take a few years (maybe just two) to get the OL into a strong position group with recruiting a development.

The rest of the season.
It looks okay. If the O makes more first downs, then I think it will click more and give a much improved D more time to rest. LU is not likely to face a D that good again (maybe UVA?). I am generally still optimistic for the rest of the season but somewhat disappointed with how the O played.

I agree with everything that you've stated. I would say that we could've made this a 24-17 at best. I'm pointing out that pick 6 that we lost I believe in the 2nd quarter. But as you've stated, this team can definitely win 8 games if the O-line improved and defense remain working on tackling, conditioning and tapes(both O and D-line).
09-03-2019 01:49 PM
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After watching a replay of the game I’m not as discouraged as I was just when I saw the score. We made a ton of mistakes that really cost us. I think we are still on track for a good season. No one thought we’d win that game anyway.
09-03-2019 07:51 PM
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I think it’s safe to say Syracuse was overrated
09-07-2019 12:28 PM
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(09-07-2019 12:28 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  I think it’s safe to say Syracuse was overrated
With the egg laid by SU, LU fans need to readjust their hopeful expectations to the actual on field play, meaning the Louisiana stinker.
09-08-2019 10:39 AM
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