(08-28-2019 01:48 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:40 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:24 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:06 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 12:42 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  Yeah, we're not invincible, but saying we're set up for failure is a stretch. It's okay to just admit that CUSA should have picked us. I'm sure in hindsight, they would.

You're playing a DivIII team and an NAIA team and AT Howard University this season. Along with pay games against Michigan and NC State. Our women's basketball budget is larger than your men's and that's likely true for a lot of CUSA schools. Your admin has no intention of trying to put a competitive basketball team on the court in any league. If you get lucky and find a decent coach they'll likely get poached by Radford.

It's no secret that football is king in Boone, but if we had no intentions of being competitive in basketball we would have let Fox ride out his contract. Trust me we care and so does our AD.

Congrats on how much money you spend on flying women's basketball around God's green Earth. A bloated budget due to traveling expensive in a conference that makes no geographical sense is nothing to brag about.

So you're using giving an extension to a coach who got your team above .500 once in 4 years (playing a crappy schedule) as proof that you CARE about basketball?!?!? I was about to use that to prove MY point. Man you guys are out of touch.

Wow. I see he got a raise too. Now he's making a few thousand more than our Lady's coach (before performance bonuses though so I wouldn't expect him to actually bring in more).

Bad decisions happen. Fox was cut early, so hopefully things will improve. That's great that y'all are spending so much money. Congrats. The point is many people out there see App as a better option than any of the the recent class of CUSA teams. It's fun to read.

From a football perspective, yeah. You've had impressive teams under Satterfield. Hopefully for you guys the new guy does as well. But things aren't going to get better for you guys in any meaningful way in basketball. Not without more commitment to the program.

(08-28-2019 02:02 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:48 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:40 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:24 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:06 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  You're playing a DivIII team and an NAIA team and AT Howard University this season. Along with pay games against Michigan and NC State. Our women's basketball budget is larger than your men's and that's likely true for a lot of CUSA schools. Your admin has no intention of trying to put a competitive basketball team on the court in any league. If you get lucky and find a decent coach they'll likely get poached by Radford.

It's no secret that football is king in Boone, but if we had no intentions of being competitive in basketball we would have let Fox ride out his contract. Trust me we care and so does our AD.

Congrats on how much money you spend on flying women's basketball around God's green Earth. A bloated budget due to traveling expensive in a conference that makes no geographical sense is nothing to brag about.

So you're using giving an extension to a coach who got your team above .500 once in 4 years (playing a crappy schedule) as proof that you CARE about basketball?!?!? I was about to use that to prove MY point. Man you guys are out of touch.

Wow. I see he got a raise too. Now he's making a few thousand more than our Lady's coach (before performance bonuses though so I wouldn't expect him to actually bring in more).

Bad decisions happen. Fox was cut early, so hopefully things will improve. That's great that y'all are spending so much money. Congrats. The point is many people out there see App as a better option than any of the the recent class of CUSA teams. It's fun to read.

From a football perspective, yeah. You've had impressive teams under Satterfield. Hopefully for you guys the new guy does as well. But things aren't going to get better for you guys in any meaningful way in basketball. Not without more commitment to the program.

I'm not sure how you can be so certain about the future of our basketball program. We've hired a new coach. That's a start. We had two bad hires in a row. Before that Houston Fancher and Buzz Peterson had a stretch of about 14 years that resulted in 7 divisional conference champs with Davidson as an opponent. Not bad for an administration that doesn't care. I don't expect much this season, but you have to be optimistic.

(08-28-2019 01:22 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:16 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 01:06 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 12:42 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 12:30 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  But they won't for long. It's not just about sucking though, it's about not caring or investing. I looked at your OOC schedule at some point last year and was shocked. They make the team go on the road for a bunch of pay games and bring in a bunch of DII and lower level DI teams. You're set up for failure. App St is where they belong with a bunch of other rural schools that sold the rest of the AD for decent FB. Even our smaller market schools have pretty good BB and even our dregs are putting in effort in the sport.

Yeah, we're not invincible, but saying we're set up for failure is a stretch. It's okay to just admit that CUSA should have picked us. I'm sure in hindsight, they would.

You're playing a DivIII team and an NAIA team and AT Howard University this season. Along with pay games against Michigan and NC State. Our women's basketball budget is larger than your men's and that's likely true for a lot of CUSA schools. Your admin has no intention of trying to put a competitive basketball team on the court in any league. If you get lucky and find a decent coach they'll likely get poached by Radford.

is your avatar signifying that you frequently pull things out of your ass?

No it's saying that you can kiss my big fat ODU Homer Ass. What part do you think is not true? It's all true, the Radford thing might be an exaggeration. It'd be a lateral move salary wise.

Ohh i guess you could understand the confusion given your penchant for talking out of your ass when it concerns App States commitment to basketball.

FWIW you don't know anything about our ADs commitment to basketball and our bball coach makes 30% more than Radfords coach. Although Roanoke is a cool place to live so theres that.

I guess you're still salty about the football results?

Damn that high mountain air can really impact ones thinking, being there 4 years or so might have caused permanent damage. Lets see if we can get this straight. Your FB is really good but your BB stinks to high heaven. You are optimistic that your BB will be good but what guarantees that your FB program will sustain the success? MTSU/WKU both have demonstrated that they can be good at both FB and BB and other sports as well. So no CUSA didn't make any mistake picking them over FCS Appy/GaSo. Your commitment to other sports is in question and nobody is questioning whether you whupped our ass twice or not because you clearly did both times.

(08-28-2019 11:11 AM)rileylives Wrote:  Look man, this is not smack. It's legitimate feedback.

You do you, but Texas State will never be a viable option for the Mountain West.

I've been to San Marcos and it's beautiful. An awesome medium sized city and TSU is a really nice campus.

Their biggest problem is that it's damn near a suburb of Austin. It's like a 30 minute drive from TSU into downtown Austin. It's always going to be hard to develop a fanbase when UT is 25 miles away.

(08-28-2019 02:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Damn that high mountain air can really impact ones thinking, being there 4 years or so might have caused permanent damage. Lets see if we can get this straight. Your FB is really good but your BB stinks to high heaven. You are optimistic that your BB will be good but what guarantees that your FB program will sustain the success? MTSU/WKU both have demonstrated that they can be good at both FB and BB and other sports as well. So no CUSA didn't make any mistake picking them over FCS Appy/GaSo. Your commitment to other sports is in question and nobody is questioning whether you whupped our ass twice or not because you clearly did both times.

yes that high mountain air definitely impacts ones thinking. No one has argued that App basketball has been anything other than garbage lately. But that doesn't mean we couldn't have respectable basketball-which we've had before.

The other sports argument that ODU/UNCC trot out is so tired, and what you really mean is you're not good at the other sport i care about, mens basketball, so i'm going to extrapolate it to all sports. Besides, if you are researching Apps non revenue sports than LOL, if you did you would find out we have several highly respected programs especially mens and womens track, and wrestling.

As to your last comment, the fact that we whipped ODUs ass x2 is evident, its only how that clouds your judgement in regards to our supposed lack of commitment to basketball thats in question.

(08-28-2019 02:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Damn that high mountain air can really impact ones thinking, being there 4 years or so might have caused permanent damage. Lets see if we can get this straight. Your FB is really good but your BB stinks to high heaven. You are optimistic that your BB will be good but what guarantees that your FB program will sustain the success? MTSU/WKU both have demonstrated that they can be good at both FB and BB and other sports as well. So no CUSA didn't make any mistake picking them over FCS Appy/GaSo. Your commitment to other sports is in question and nobody is questioning whether you whupped our ass twice or not because you clearly did both times.

ESPN said it. Oh yeah and plenty of others too. If we weren't committed we would still be in the SoCon. Try telling members of the Yosef Club, or Doug Gillin, or Gerald Adams (RIP), or David Jackson, or our alum, or the town of Boone that they are not committed.

It took a lot of hard work and COMMITMENT to climb out of that conference. Basketball sucks right now, but it's not a reflection of a lack of commitment. New facilities for softball, track, tennis, and yes football IS a sign of our commitment.

(08-28-2019 02:39 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Damn that high mountain air can really impact ones thinking, being there 4 years or so might have caused permanent damage. Lets see if we can get this straight. Your FB is really good but your BB stinks to high heaven. You are optimistic that your BB will be good but what guarantees that your FB program will sustain the success? MTSU/WKU both have demonstrated that they can be good at both FB and BB and other sports as well. So no CUSA didn't make any mistake picking them over FCS Appy/GaSo. Your commitment to other sports is in question and nobody is questioning whether you whupped our ass twice or not because you clearly did both times.

ESPN said it. Oh yeah and plenty of others too. If we weren't committed we would still be in the SoCon. Try telling members of the Yosef Club, or Doug Gillin, or Gerald Adams (RIP), or David Jackson, or our alum, or the town of Boone that they are not committed.

It took a lot of hard work and COMMITMENT to climb out of that conference. Basketball sucks right now, but it's not a reflection of a lack of commitment. New facilities for softball, track, tennis, and yes football IS a sign of our commitment.

ESPN also said G5 programs are irrelevant and pays us peanuts. Do you really believe them? Of course recent success is factored into these and you can clearly see why they said that but that doesn't mean jack if the schools in the conference have other priorities. Just my 2 cents.

Quote:ESPN said it. Oh yeah and plenty of others too. If we weren't committed we would still be in the SoCon. Try telling members of the Yosef Club, or Doug Gillin, or Gerald Adams (RIP), or David Jackson, or our alum, or the town of Boone that they are not committed.

Yep, the alumni are really committed, averaging a whopping 1,000 people per game for basketball! Nothing shouts ALL IN like an empty arena!

(08-28-2019 02:38 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Damn that high mountain air can really impact ones thinking, being there 4 years or so might have caused permanent damage. Lets see if we can get this straight. Your FB is really good but your BB stinks to high heaven. You are optimistic that your BB will be good but what guarantees that your FB program will sustain the success? MTSU/WKU both have demonstrated that they can be good at both FB and BB and other sports as well. So no CUSA didn't make any mistake picking them over FCS Appy/GaSo. Your commitment to other sports is in question and nobody is questioning whether you whupped our ass twice or not because you clearly did both times.

yes that high mountain air definitely impacts ones thinking. No one has argued that App basketball has been anything other than garbage lately. But that doesn't mean we couldn't have respectable basketball-which we've had before.

The other sports argument that ODU/UNCC trot out is so tired, and what you really mean is you're not good at the other sport i care about, mens basketball, so i'm going to extrapolate it to all sports. Besides, if you are researching Apps non revenue sports than LOL, if you did you would find out we have several highly respected programs especially mens and womens track, and wrestling.

As to your last comment, the fact that we whipped ODUs ass x2 is evident, its only how that clouds your judgement in regards to our supposed lack of commitment to basketball thats in question.

Alright dude. Appy State is gods great gift to college FB. Did that make you happy? Your beat down of ODU is clouding my judgement in regards to your lack of basketball support right? Exactly what was going through my mind. LOL

(08-28-2019 02:44 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:39 PM)southcharlotteapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Damn that high mountain air can really impact ones thinking, being there 4 years or so might have caused permanent damage. Lets see if we can get this straight. Your FB is really good but your BB stinks to high heaven. You are optimistic that your BB will be good but what guarantees that your FB program will sustain the success? MTSU/WKU both have demonstrated that they can be good at both FB and BB and other sports as well. So no CUSA didn't make any mistake picking them over FCS Appy/GaSo. Your commitment to other sports is in question and nobody is questioning whether you whupped our ass twice or not because you clearly did both times.

ESPN said it. Oh yeah and plenty of others too. If we weren't committed we would still be in the SoCon. Try telling members of the Yosef Club, or Doug Gillin, or Gerald Adams (RIP), or David Jackson, or our alum, or the town of Boone that they are not committed.

It took a lot of hard work and COMMITMENT to climb out of that conference. Basketball sucks right now, but it's not a reflection of a lack of commitment. New facilities for softball, track, tennis, and yes football IS a sign of our commitment.

ESPN also said G5 programs are irrelevant and pays us peanuts. Do you really believe them? Of course recent success is factored into these and you can clearly see why they said that but that doesn't mean jack if the schools in the conference have other priorities. Just my 2 cents.

Yeah, we can go down this rabbit hole all day. In hindsight App was probably worth more consideration than given, but we all seem to be doing just fine. Nice stadium by the way. Jealous! Hope to get y'all back on the schedule, and other CSUA teams. Especially since we're something like 5-1 verses y'all. We call that easy money!

All of this dickin is irrelevant. Our two in state D1 sisters shared $45 million from ‘their’ conference. EACH. None of us are going to compete against that long term. No matter how much we charge 40,000 students for athletics. We argue amongst ourselves because it’s all we got. Who’s the worst?.......

It’s a shame amateur athletics has come to this.

(08-28-2019 02:49 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:38 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Damn that high mountain air can really impact ones thinking, being there 4 years or so might have caused permanent damage. Lets see if we can get this straight. Your FB is really good but your BB stinks to high heaven. You are optimistic that your BB will be good but what guarantees that your FB program will sustain the success? MTSU/WKU both have demonstrated that they can be good at both FB and BB and other sports as well. So no CUSA didn't make any mistake picking them over FCS Appy/GaSo. Your commitment to other sports is in question and nobody is questioning whether you whupped our ass twice or not because you clearly did both times.

yes that high mountain air definitely impacts ones thinking. No one has argued that App basketball has been anything other than garbage lately. But that doesn't mean we couldn't have respectable basketball-which we've had before.

The other sports argument that ODU/UNCC trot out is so tired, and what you really mean is you're not good at the other sport i care about, mens basketball, so i'm going to extrapolate it to all sports. Besides, if you are researching Apps non revenue sports than LOL, if you did you would find out we have several highly respected programs especially mens and womens track, and wrestling.

As to your last comment, the fact that we whipped ODUs ass x2 is evident, its only how that clouds your judgement in regards to our supposed lack of commitment to basketball thats in question.

Alright dude. Appy State is gods great gift to college FB. Did that make you happy? Your beat down of ODU is clouding my judgement in regards to your lack of basketball support right? Exactly what was going through my mind. LOL

Yes, it’s all I ever wanted. Now, do you feel better after having your breakthrough?

Appies: The point I'm making is the scheduling philosophy and the monetary investment you put into basketball is NOT setting you up for success. It's not that ODU is spending a lot on BB it's that App is spending very little. If you look at football budgets, ours is slightly higher but you are outspending us where it counts, coaching. And it shows. The App St football coaching job is attractive. Pays well, easy to recruit to, good fan base, good facilities. The MBB coaching job is not. You might have gotten a good coach but if he has any kind of success he's going to be gone. That's true for all of us in all sports. But, you'd have to over DOUBLE his salary just to keep him from jumping to a school like ODU or Charlotte. So you've matched or surpassed our commitment in football by a small degree but are well behind in basketball. Those are facts.

Football is not synonymous of conference. I know as fans we tend to only look at football but there’s a lot more to a conference than just football. The reality is that the SB was just terrible a few years back. They couldn’t be any worst and could only move up(football). On the other hand, CUSA took a slight step back(football). That’s the reality. This makes both leagues comparable today. Although since realignment, CUSA owns the SB in head to head matchups.

Considering that the SB fans have been saying that they are better than CUSA for the past 10 years - Even when the SB was clearly not, it is understandable why they now boast as if they’re the SEC and we’re the A10. I wouldn’t pay them any mind.

Now here’s another reality. When you look at the both conferences, not just football, you’ll notice a clear distinction between the two. Consider academics, endowment, athletic budget and so on and you’ll see a clear pattern in favor of CUSA.

(08-28-2019 02:38 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Besides, if you are researching Apps non revenue sports than LOL, if you did you would find out we have several highly respected programs especially mens and womens track, and wrestling.

Exactly where does your track team hold their home meets?

(08-28-2019 04:07 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:38 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  Besides, if you are researching Apps non revenue sports than LOL, if you did you would find out we have several highly respected programs especially mens and womens track, and wrestling.

Exactly where does your track team hold their home meets?

Coming soon.

http://https://pdc.appstate.edu/projects...relocation

Once again. I do not understand what we're arguing about.

C-USA's last re-alignment round occurred before App State became a full FBS member. And, secondly, the SBC members that did join the C-USA are mostly among the better C-USA teams.

What the fcuk are we talking about here? The article was wrong in two fundamental points it was trying to make.

(08-28-2019 04:56 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  Once again. I do not understand what we're arguing about.

C-USA's last re-alignment round occurred before App State became a full FBS member. And, secondly, the SBC members that did join the C-USA are mostly among the better C-USA teams.

What the fcuk are we talking about here? The article was wrong in two fundamental points it was trying to make.

App was courting CUSA at the same time as UNCC. CUSA picked UNCC, and we received a bid from the SB shortly after. Don't know about the other schools.

(08-28-2019 03:17 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:49 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:38 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(08-28-2019 02:26 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Damn that high mountain air can really impact ones thinking, being there 4 years or so might have caused permanent damage. Lets see if we can get this straight. Your FB is really good but your BB stinks to high heaven. You are optimistic that your BB will be good but what guarantees that your FB program will sustain the success? MTSU/WKU both have demonstrated that they can be good at both FB and BB and other sports as well. So no CUSA didn't make any mistake picking them over FCS Appy/GaSo. Your commitment to other sports is in question and nobody is questioning whether you whupped our ass twice or not because you clearly did both times.

yes that high mountain air definitely impacts ones thinking. No one has argued that App basketball has been anything other than garbage lately. But that doesn't mean we couldn't have respectable basketball-which we've had before.

The other sports argument that ODU/UNCC trot out is so tired, and what you really mean is you're not good at the other sport i care about, mens basketball, so i'm going to extrapolate it to all sports. Besides, if you are researching Apps non revenue sports than LOL, if you did you would find out we have several highly respected programs especially mens and womens track, and wrestling.

As to your last comment, the fact that we whipped ODUs ass x2 is evident, its only how that clouds your judgement in regards to our supposed lack of commitment to basketball thats in question.

Alright dude. Appy State is gods great gift to college FB. Did that make you happy? Your beat down of ODU is clouding my judgement in regards to your lack of basketball support right? Exactly what was going through my mind. LOL

Yes, it’s all I ever wanted. Now, do you feel better after having your breakthrough?

Breakthrough? Holycrap Sheep lovers in the mountains must be really bored.