Just a thought but USF should hire the old Big East coach. Had yall rocking back then. USF was so big time back then that I thought it was big deal playing you guys. That's how terrible our program was. Now it's like meh.

(12-01-2019 09:24 PM)Digetydog Wrote:  

(12-01-2019 03:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Has all the earmarks of a new beginning at USF. Lane Kiffin on line one? Hell, just go hire Art Briles. You'll take some heat---but you know your gunna win a crap load of games.

Lane Kiffin failed at Oakland, failed at USC, and bailed on Tennessee. He is not god’s gift to coaching.

I dont think I suggested that he was God's gift---and your right--he has some failures. However, he's a little older and a little wiser. I like that he took over a bad FAU team that had gone 3-9 for 3 consecutive seasons. He won CUSA in his first year there (11-3), then fell to 5-7 when he lost Kendal Briles----but then he immediately rebounded to 9-3 and will be playing in the CUSA CCG next week. FAU is a program with a fairly wimpy budget, little support, and little history of success---yet Kiffin has made it work. Its also worth noting that Kiffin has been right there recruiting Florida for the last 3 years. I think he's worth a look for a Florida program that has a lot more to work with than FAU. Bill Clark at UAB is another interesting guy I think USF should at least kick the tires on.

(12-01-2019 03:55 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  How much was Strong getting paid and how much can they pay their next coach?

My question is - how much of Strong's salary was coming from Texas and how much was USF actually paying him. Was the Texas money done. Was Strong on a full USF salary. What is the buyout. Is it low because of the Texas stipend or is it high because he is on a full USF salary.

Charlie Strong's full buyout situation with South Florida is not publicly known b/c it's primarily covered by deal he has with private USF Foundation, but foundation's recent financial statement shows it could be over $5 million

I really picked the wrong profession.

Strongs buyout is $5.3 million. He is owed $2.6 million for next year and $2.7 million for the year after. It wont cost us that much though. We got a $1.7 million buyout from Oregon for Taggart and Texas is paying us $1.9 million to play them 1 game next year. So $3.6 million is covered and Charlie has an offset clause, so the remaining $1.7 million will be offset by any position he takes. If he gets a decent P5 coordinator job (which I think he will) then we may nothing to let him go.

I personally like Strong as a person and think he is a great person, mentor and man but we simply didnt win enough. I hold no ill will toward him at all and hope he finds success elsewhere.

As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

(12-02-2019 08:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

Strong is a good guy. I hate that he failed at USF. Having said that I think the 1st two on your list or Kiffin.

Kiffin will put butts in seats and create a buzz.

Will Grothe join the new coaching staff?

(12-02-2019 08:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

Wait, Shaun King your current RB coach?

His only college coaching experience has been at South Florida. He's never been a college coordinator. I feel like you can hire a real HC and just name King the OC if you want to keep him. I mean his biggest resume booster is that he worked 1 on 1 with Quinton Flowers, which OMG how many jobs is Quinton Flowers going to get people. He's probably the best recruiter of the Tampa area but other coaches have proven they can come in and recruit Florida.

Please don't hire Lane Kiffin, UCF's Kevin Smith is on his coaching staff and it would be the ultimate betrayal to see 24K as a position coach at South Florida.

(12-02-2019 09:22 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

Wait, Shaun King your current RB coach?

His only college coaching experience has been at South Florida. He's never been a college coordinator. I feel like you can hire a real HC and just name King the OC if you want to keep him. I mean his biggest resume booster is that he worked 1 on 1 with Quinton Flowers, which OMG how many jobs is Quinton Flowers going to get people. He's probably the best recruiter of the Tampa area but other coaches have proven they can come in and recruit Florida.

Please don't hire Lane Kiffin, UCF's Kevin Smith is on his coaching staff and it would be the ultimate betrayal to see 24K as a position coach at South Florida.

I think King will get an interview just simply because he has been loyal to the program and he is genuinly a great man. Hes been an amazing mentor for this young men, and his players that he position coaches have all done well.
I tend to think that he will be kept on staff. He doesnt want to move since his family is entrenched in Tampa and if given the opportunity, I think he would do well as OC.

With that said, Lanes gonna get a call. Trust me, I know how you feel. Larry Scott (who played for USF) has coached at Miami and UF. Not a good feeling but I was happy that he was getting a chance.

(12-02-2019 09:12 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

Strong is a good guy. I hate that he failed at USF. Having said that I think the 1st two on your list or Kiffin.

Kiffin will put butts in seats and create a buzz.

Will Grothe join the new coaching staff?

Honestly, I am fine with any except Kerwin Bell and King. I love Shaun King but I think he needs more time before HC.

If I could put together the Offensive side dream team....
Larry Scott as HC (and O line)
Shaun King as Co-OC
Marquell Blackwell Co-OC
Matt Grothe as QB coach
and I like to keep Auggie Sanchez somewhere on the defensive side.... Rodney Adams wants to get a coaching position and so does Flowers. If there is room in the Quality Control positions, I would bring them back on.

I think we need a lot of Old school USF blood to reinvigorate the fanbase... and I know Grothe being a coach in some capacity would go a long way. He wants to get in and thats one reason I would go for Larry Scott. He and Matt are friends and I think he would give him a shot.

Matt should be a coach... Big East total yardage record holder.

(12-02-2019 09:38 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 09:12 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

Strong is a good guy. I hate that he failed at USF. Having said that I think the 1st two on your list or Kiffin.

Kiffin will put butts in seats and create a buzz.

Will Grothe join the new coaching staff?

Honestly, I am fine with any except Kerwin Bell and King. I love Shaun King but I think he needs more time before HC.

If I could put together the Offensive side dream team....
Larry Scott as HC (and O line)
Shaun King as Co-OC
Marquell Blackwell Co-OC
Matt Grothe as QB coach
and I like to keep Auggie Sanchez somewhere on the defensive side.... Rodney Adams wants to get a coaching position and so does Flowers. If there is room in the Quality Control positions, I would bring them back on.

I think we need a lot of Old school USF blood to reinvigorate the fanbase... and I know Grothe being a coach in some capacity would go a long way. He wants to get in and thats one reason I would go for Larry Scott. He and Matt are friends and I think he would give him a shot.

Matt should be a coach... Big East total yardage record holder.

Matt has also been arrested twice. Once for selling alcohol to a minor and another for felony battery. Not exactly the guy you want to meet the mothers.

I also strongly suggest that no one pokes him, I hear he really hates that.

(12-02-2019 10:06 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 09:38 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 09:12 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

Strong is a good guy. I hate that he failed at USF. Having said that I think the 1st two on your list or Kiffin.

Kiffin will put butts in seats and create a buzz.

Will Grothe join the new coaching staff?

Honestly, I am fine with any except Kerwin Bell and King. I love Shaun King but I think he needs more time before HC.

If I could put together the Offensive side dream team....
Larry Scott as HC (and O line)
Shaun King as Co-OC
Marquell Blackwell Co-OC
Matt Grothe as QB coach
and I like to keep Auggie Sanchez somewhere on the defensive side.... Rodney Adams wants to get a coaching position and so does Flowers. If there is room in the Quality Control positions, I would bring them back on.

I think we need a lot of Old school USF blood to reinvigorate the fanbase... and I know Grothe being a coach in some capacity would go a long way. He wants to get in and thats one reason I would go for Larry Scott. He and Matt are friends and I think he would give him a shot.

Matt should be a coach... Big East total yardage record holder.

Matt has also been arrested twice. Once for selling alcohol to a minor and another for felony battery. Not exactly the guy you want to meet the mothers.

I also strongly suggest that no one pokes him, I hear he really hates that.

lol, he was setup for the alcohol. The girl bought a beer at a bar he was working at.... and she easily looked 25. The front door shouldnt have let her in. He was never convicted of anything.

The "assault" was someone on his property being an *******. Anybody runs their mouth on my property and refuses to leave, they may get popped too.

Before you spread all of that, you may want to check to see if he was ever convicted of anything. Feel free to seach the clerk of the court... no conviction of anything there.

(12-02-2019 07:51 AM)panite Wrote:  

(12-01-2019 03:55 PM)sfink16 Wrote:  How much was Strong getting paid and how much can they pay their next coach?

My question is - how much of Strong's salary was coming from Texas and how much was USF actually paying him. Was the Texas money done. Was Strong on a full USF salary. What is the buyout. Is it low because of the Texas stipend or is it high because he is on a full USF salary.

Texas stopped paying Strong last year. USF was on the hook for his entire salary, which was 2.6M next year and 2.7M in the final year of contract.

(12-02-2019 08:42 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Strongs buyout is $5.3 million. He is owed $2.6 million for next year and $2.7 million for the year after. It wont cost us that much though. We got a $1.7 million buyout from Oregon for Taggart and Texas is paying us $1.9 million to play them 1 game next year. So $3.6 million is covered and Charlie has an offset clause, so the remaining $1.7 million will be offset by any position he takes. If he gets a decent P5 coordinator job (which I think he will) then we may nothing to let him go.

I personally like Strong as a person and think he is a great person, mentor and man but we simply didnt win enough. I hold no ill will toward him at all and hope he finds success elsewhere.

I love your silly math. Oregon is paying us $1.7 mill and Texas pays us $1.9 mill for a waxing next season. That’s revenue. Paying CCS $5.3 mill is a liability. How can you say we may pay nothing to let him go. If we didn’t pay the $5.3 we’d still have the $5.3. It is a net loss of $5.3

(12-02-2019 10:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 10:06 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Matt has also been arrested twice. Once for selling alcohol to a minor and another for felony battery. Not exactly the guy you want to meet the mothers.

I also strongly suggest that no one pokes him, I hear he really hates that.

lol, he was setup for the alcohol. The girl bought a beer at a bar he was working at.... and she easily looked 25. The front door shouldnt have let her in. He was never convicted of anything.

The "assault" was someone on his property being an *******. Anybody runs their mouth on my property and refuses to leave, they may get popped too.

Before you spread all of that, you may want to check to see if he was ever convicted of anything. Feel free to seach the clerk of the court... no conviction of anything there.

Sorry, that one was just sitting there.

RIP, Marion Barry...

USFFan

(12-02-2019 10:59 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:42 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Strongs buyout is $5.3 million. He is owed $2.6 million for next year and $2.7 million for the year after. It wont cost us that much though. We got a $1.7 million buyout from Oregon for Taggart and Texas is paying us $1.9 million to play them 1 game next year. So $3.6 million is covered and Charlie has an offset clause, so the remaining $1.7 million will be offset by any position he takes. If he gets a decent P5 coordinator job (which I think he will) then we may nothing to let him go.

I personally like Strong as a person and think he is a great person, mentor and man but we simply didnt win enough. I hold no ill will toward him at all and hope he finds success elsewhere.

I love your silly math. Oregon is paying us $1.7 mill and Texas pays us $1.9 mill for a waxing next season. That’s revenue. Paying CCS $5.3 mill is a liability. How can you say we may pay nothing to let him go. If we didn’t pay the $5.3 we’d still have the $5.3. It is a net loss of $5.3

Also, we supposedly used much of that Oregon (and, in reality, FSU, since they assumed a chunk of that debt in buying him out of his Oregon contract) money to pay off the remainder of Skip's buyout.

USFFan

(12-02-2019 10:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 10:06 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 09:38 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 09:12 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

Strong is a good guy. I hate that he failed at USF. Having said that I think the 1st two on your list or Kiffin.

Kiffin will put butts in seats and create a buzz.

Will Grothe join the new coaching staff?

Honestly, I am fine with any except Kerwin Bell and King. I love Shaun King but I think he needs more time before HC.

If I could put together the Offensive side dream team....
Larry Scott as HC (and O line)
Shaun King as Co-OC
Marquell Blackwell Co-OC
Matt Grothe as QB coach
and I like to keep Auggie Sanchez somewhere on the defensive side.... Rodney Adams wants to get a coaching position and so does Flowers. If there is room in the Quality Control positions, I would bring them back on.

I think we need a lot of Old school USF blood to reinvigorate the fanbase... and I know Grothe being a coach in some capacity would go a long way. He wants to get in and thats one reason I would go for Larry Scott. He and Matt are friends and I think he would give him a shot.

Matt should be a coach... Big East total yardage record holder.

Matt has also been arrested twice. Once for selling alcohol to a minor and another for felony battery. Not exactly the guy you want to meet the mothers.

I also strongly suggest that no one pokes him, I hear he really hates that.

lol, he was setup for the alcohol. The girl bought a beer at a bar he was working at.... and she easily looked 25. The front door shouldnt have let her in. He was never convicted of anything.

The "assault" was someone on his property being an *******. Anybody runs their mouth on my property and refuses to leave, they may get popped too.

Before you spread all of that, you may want to check to see if he was ever convicted of anything. Feel free to seach the clerk of the court... no conviction of anything there.

I said arrested, I didn't say convicted.

When you just search Matt Grothe on google his arrest picture is one of the first things to come up on the right. The mothers of america are going to ask questions.

But I am all for watching USF continue to spiral down. So go ahead and hire Grothe, it will be fun to poke him.

At the next on field fight, I wonder if he'll hold players back or join in the scrum.

(12-02-2019 10:06 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 09:38 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 09:12 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:56 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  As far as replacement for Strong.... there are a few that will not happen.

1. Art Briles - We fired a coach for slapping a player and the slap was actually never proven. The Police officers in the room at the time of the event testified it didnt happen. USF was then sued by Leavitt for breaching contract and firing him. He settled out of court of millions and can never work at USF again. Art Briles did WAY worse... there isnt a chance we bring him on. We just wont.

2. Jim Leavitt - I love the man and know his family. He is a wonderful person who was rail roaded but made a mistake in pushing people to help him during the investigation. That is what ultimately cost him his job. He cant work for USF again, but I hope he gets a job somewere. I personally think he would do amazing at UTSA or CSU. I hope he gets a chance but he wont be USFs coach again.

3. Taggart - He interviewed behind USFs back without any notice 2 of the three years he was here. When he left, he stole several recruits and then tried to not pay his exit fee. He burned a TON of bridges and the biggest of power players felt played by him. He isnt coming back. He wants to, but he burnt that bridge. It isnt happening.


Who I am hearing has a good shot:
1. Larry Scott - former USF player who has coached at Tennesee, Miami and is now at UF. He is an outstanding recruiter and is loved by USF players and alumni. Main issue is he hasnt really run a program and this would be his first head coaching position (not temporary)

2. Jeff Scott Clemson OC- Ive heard there is a relationship with our AD and he will be looked at.

3. Kerwin Bell - From what I hear this is an option and I dont like it. Its a cheap option since he will take less (under $2 million) and then we wouldn't have to pay his buyout (he was on a 2 year contract)

4. Lane Kiffin - Theres interest from some of the fanbase but Ive only had one person who is a decent donor mention his name.

5. Jow Brady from LSU... really an interesting name. Big time up and comer and apparently can recruit like all hell.

6. Shaun King - amazing recruiter but never been a head coach... hasnt even been a coordinator. This is more of a fan favorite than a legitimate option but I wouldnt doubt he gets a shot at being the OC from whomever becomes the HC.

7. James Colley Georgia OC - Another hot up and comer.... honestly, I think he may hold out at Georgia for a couple years and go straight to the SEC, but hes gonna get a call.

Strong is a good guy. I hate that he failed at USF. Having said that I think the 1st two on your list or Kiffin.

Kiffin will put butts in seats and create a buzz.

Will Grothe join the new coaching staff?

Honestly, I am fine with any except Kerwin Bell and King. I love Shaun King but I think he needs more time before HC.

If I could put together the Offensive side dream team....
Larry Scott as HC (and O line)
Shaun King as Co-OC
Marquell Blackwell Co-OC
Matt Grothe as QB coach
and I like to keep Auggie Sanchez somewhere on the defensive side.... Rodney Adams wants to get a coaching position and so does Flowers. If there is room in the Quality Control positions, I would bring them back on.

I think we need a lot of Old school USF blood to reinvigorate the fanbase... and I know Grothe being a coach in some capacity would go a long way. He wants to get in and thats one reason I would go for Larry Scott. He and Matt are friends and I think he would give him a shot.

Matt should be a coach... Big East total yardage record holder.

Matt has also been arrested twice. Once for selling alcohol to a minor and another for felony battery. Not exactly the guy you want to meet the mothers.

I also strongly suggest that no one pokes him, I hear he really hates that.

Hopefully we don’t hire a coach whose players die by withholding water

I don't know who USF will hire and I am sorry that Charlie Strong didn't work out. It is important for the American to have a strong USF. Good luck, in finding your coach!

(12-02-2019 10:59 AM)Sellular1 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 08:42 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  Strongs buyout is $5.3 million. He is owed $2.6 million for next year and $2.7 million for the year after. It wont cost us that much though. We got a $1.7 million buyout from Oregon for Taggart and Texas is paying us $1.9 million to play them 1 game next year. So $3.6 million is covered and Charlie has an offset clause, so the remaining $1.7 million will be offset by any position he takes. If he gets a decent P5 coordinator job (which I think he will) then we may nothing to let him go.

I personally like Strong as a person and think he is a great person, mentor and man but we simply didnt win enough. I hold no ill will toward him at all and hope he finds success elsewhere.

I love your silly math. Oregon is paying us $1.7 mill and Texas pays us $1.9 mill for a waxing next season. That’s revenue. Paying CCS $5.3 mill is a liability. How can you say we may pay nothing to let him go. If we didn’t pay the $5.3 we’d still have the $5.3. It is a net loss of $5.3

Glad I'm not the only one who had a laugh at that post.

I think Lane Kiffin could do really well at USF, if you're willing to put up with all that entails. He seems to have mellowed out some at FAU, though.