Trump will turn 75 in June of 2021, or about 6 months into his 2nd term if he wins re-election. And with his weight and diet, I doubt he's the picture of 'heart-healthy'.

I get certain age arguments (Biden even though he is younger than Bernie or Bloomberg, just seems much older mentally). But I don't get the age argument against Sanders. Both his parents died young but that's not uncommon for immigrants in the United States in the 1950's when people smoked at such an incredible rate. Sanders has an older brother in England who is 84, almost 85, who still is active and works as a spokesman.

His policies give me cause for alarm, but Sanders' age and heart issues don't.

(03-01-2020 12:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Bring on Tulsi!

Democrats don’t want what she’s selling. But she actually would’ve been a strong challenger in a 1:1 with Trump.

Joe Biden is like a waxworks version of Mondale 2.0
It really is weird that so many “establishment” type Democrats are so heavily invested in him.

I still think Tuesday/03rd March is going to be a very bad day for him. We shall see.

(03-01-2020 09:11 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Biden is gonna need to pull off a few wins on Super Tuesday for South Carolina to matter. Otherwise, this is just his version of CiA Pete's good finishes in all-white states. He's gotta cross viability in California and pull off victories in at least a few of NC/VA/Texas to keep Bernie from really cleaning up.

Biden is the only one Bernie ever really needed to "fear" in terms of being able to actually beat him. Petey was never a real thing and Bloomy is just racist Steyer wasting more money. The good thing for Bernie is that Biden took so much of a beating the entire month and had to use up so many resources and political capital to keep his campaign alive in South Carolina that it's gonna be hard to do anything between now and Tuesday to greatly change those races. Everyone who voted early in any of those states did so during the peak of Biden crashing, and Bernie has the much larger and better-organized ground game in all those states.

The right is loving this. Bernie assures Trumps reelection and could likely permanently fracture democrat party when its all said and done.

(03-01-2020 12:37 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Trump will turn 75 in June of 2021, or about 6 months into his 2nd term if he wins re-election. And with his weight and diet, I doubt he's the picture of 'heart-healthy'.
I get certain age arguments (Biden even though he is younger than Bernie or Bloomberg, just seems much older mentally). But I don't get the age argument against Sanders. Both his parents died young but that's not uncommon for immigrants in the United States in the 1950's when people smoked at such an incredible rate. Sanders has an older brother in England who is 84, almost 85, who still is active and works as a spokesman.
His policies give me cause for alarm, but Sanders' age and heart issues don't.

I would have to see whom he chose as his VP before deciding which would scare me more, that Bernie would die or that he wouldn't.

(03-01-2020 12:37 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Trump will turn 75 in June of 2021, or about 6 months into his 2nd term if he wins re-election. And with his weight and diet, I doubt he's the picture of 'heart-healthy'.

I get certain age arguments (Biden even though he is younger than Bernie or Bloomberg, just seems much older mentally). But I don't get the age argument against Sanders. Both his parents died young but that's not uncommon for immigrants in the United States in the 1950's when people smoked at such an incredible rate. Sanders has an older brother in England who is 84, almost 85, who still is active and works as a spokesman.

His policies give me cause for alarm, but Sanders' age and heart issues don't.

Thanks for that unbiased assessment Dr FBO.




Remember that whole opposite thing we discussed.

(03-01-2020 12:37 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Trump will turn 75 in June of 2021, or about 6 months into his 2nd term if he wins re-election. And with his weight and diet, I doubt he's the picture of 'heart-healthy'.

I get certain age arguments (Biden even though he is younger than Bernie or Bloomberg, just seems much older mentally). But I don't get the age argument against Sanders. Both his parents died young but that's not uncommon for immigrants in the United States in the 1950's when people smoked at such an incredible rate. Sanders has an older brother in England who is 84, almost 85, who still is active and works as a spokesman.

His policies give me cause for alarm, but Sanders' age and heart issues don't.

do a quick scan of before/after during service ... DJT stomps 'em all..

(03-01-2020 12:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 12:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Bring on Tulsi!

Democrats don’t want what she’s selling. But she actually would’ve been a strong challenger in a 1:1 with Trump.
Joe Biden is like a waxworks version of Mondale 2.0
It really is weird that so many “establishment” type Democrats are so heavily invested in him.
I still think Tuesday/03rd March is going to be a very bad day for him. We shall see.

I still like the idea that I saw floated of a Libertarian ticket of Justin Amash and Tulsi. Tulsi is not very libertarian, although Amash is. But that ticket would have a chance to snatch a lot of never-Trump republicans and a lot of never-Bernie democrats. It could get to the magic 5% nationally to qualify the LP for a lot of the benefits that the D's and R's get and use them to hold the LP down. It might be the closest think we've seen to a centrist ticket on either side since maybe Ike.

(03-01-2020 12:37 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Trump will turn 75 in June of 2021, or about 6 months into his 2nd term if he wins re-election. And with his weight and diet, I doubt he's the picture of 'heart-healthy'.

I get certain age arguments (Biden even though he is younger than Bernie or Bloomberg, just seems much older mentally). But I don't get the age argument against Sanders. Both his parents died young but that's not uncommon for immigrants in the United States in the 1950's when people smoked at such an incredible rate. Sanders has an older brother in England who is 84, almost 85, who still is active and works as a spokesman.

His policies give me cause for alarm, but Sanders' age and heart issues don't.

A 78 year old man who just had a heart attack doesn't give you cause for alarm? I think your political bias is showing, lol.

(03-01-2020 03:31 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 12:37 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Trump will turn 75 in June of 2021, or about 6 months into his 2nd term if he wins re-election. And with his weight and diet, I doubt he's the picture of 'heart-healthy'.

I get certain age arguments (Biden even though he is younger than Bernie or Bloomberg, just seems much older mentally). But I don't get the age argument against Sanders. Both his parents died young but that's not uncommon for immigrants in the United States in the 1950's when people smoked at such an incredible rate. Sanders has an older brother in England who is 84, almost 85, who still is active and works as a spokesman.

His policies give me cause for alarm, but Sanders' age and heart issues don't.

A 78 year old man who just had a heart attack doesn't give you cause for alarm? I think your political bias is showing, lol.

But Trump, a man who has given his medical records to the press, has boundless energy and has sired children like an Arabian sultan worries him.


Uh, ok FBO

(03-01-2020 02:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I still like the idea that I saw floated of a Libertarian ticket of Justin Amash and Tulsi. Tulsi is not very libertarian, although Amash is. But that ticket would have a chance to snatch a lot of never-Trump republicans and a lot of never-Bernie democrats... It might be the closest think we've seen to a centrist ticket on either side since maybe Ike.

Well, if a right-winger plus a left-winger equals “centrist”, then yeah I can see that. But to me, centrism is more along the lines of Bob Corker, Susan Collins or Daniel Lipinski.

I don’t know what the odds are of an Amash/Gabbard ticket. The LP is a strange bird and their decisions are difficult to predict in advance. But if that happens, I would strongly consider it. I’ll see what the status is in October and then decide.

Bloomers has the money to stay in, but will he after 0 wins Tuesday? Focahontas should drop out by Wednesday as should several others but I doubt we'll see much attrition. I think all the also rans, will stay in till there's no money to continue hoping for a brokered convention and their chance to be the knight in progressive armor.

Amrash has acted like he drank the water in Flint for too long and he is very likely going to be unemployed later this year.

So it sounds like Rat Pete is dropping out.

(03-01-2020 06:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So it sounds like Rat Pete is dropping out.

Doesn't make sense why not stay in through Super Tuesday? Maybe crazy uncle Joe has promised something?

(03-01-2020 06:18 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 06:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So it sounds like Rat Pete is dropping out.

Doesn't make sense why not stay in through Super Tuesday? Maybe crazy uncle Joe has promised something?

Yeah, I kinda fail to see the point, and it doesn't help that much as there was a lot of early voting in the big states. Interestingly enough according to the Morning Consult polling, Bernie is the second choice of Pete voters at the highest percentage. I am still of the opinion that way too many people think voters view themselves in these "lanes" and will just pick another person in the perceived lane of their first choice.

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

(03-01-2020 02:18 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 12:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 12:18 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Bring on Tulsi!

Democrats don’t want what she’s selling. But she actually would’ve been a strong challenger in a 1:1 with Trump.
Joe Biden is like a waxworks version of Mondale 2.0
It really is weird that so many “establishment” type Democrats are so heavily invested in him.
I still think Tuesday/03rd March is going to be a very bad day for him. We shall see.

I still like the idea that I saw floated of a Libertarian ticket of Justin Amash and Tulsi.

That would be a great ticket.....

With pete dropping out, I imagine biden and bloomberg just picked up a few points each. Could flip a few states for biden and put bloomberg over 15% to become viable.

(03-01-2020 06:26 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 06:18 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 06:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So it sounds like Rat Pete is dropping out.

Doesn't make sense why not stay in through Super Tuesday? Maybe crazy uncle Joe has promised something?

Yeah, I kinda fail to see the point, and it doesn't help that much as there was a lot of early voting in the big states. Interestingly enough according to the Morning Consult polling, Bernie is the second choice of Pete voters at the highest percentage. I am still of the opinion that way too many people think voters view themselves in these "lanes" and will just pick another person in the perceived lane of their first choice.

https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/

Pete isn't a Senator and so maybe has a manageable ego.
Nobody but Sanders, Biden and Bloomberg should still be in.

(03-01-2020 06:18 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 06:09 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  So it sounds like Rat Pete is dropping out.

Doesn't make sense why not stay in through Super Tuesday? Maybe crazy uncle Joe has promised something?

Maybe Chasten was getting cold and needed someone to keep him warm.

(03-01-2020 07:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:  With pete dropping out, I imagine biden and bloomberg just picked up a few points each. Could flip a few states for biden and put bloomberg over 15% to become viable.

That other poll showed his followers split.

I don't think Biden or Bloomberg particularly appeal to his voters. But then they may not like Sanders.

In the polls that came out in the last couple of days, Pete had 9 TX, 10 NC, 7 CA, 14 MA, 18 UT, 8 VA, 12 CO, 8 FL, 13 WI.