https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/us/profes...index.html is titled "University of North Carolina Wilmington calls professor's tweets 'vile and inexcusable' following growing backlash online." In under a year, at least two CAA teams have had professors get bad publicity, including a Drexel professor who stole from the school or a research grant or something.

(06-07-2020 10:22 AM)EvanJ Wrote:  https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/us/profes...index.html is titled "University of North Carolina Wilmington calls professor's tweets 'vile and inexcusable' following growing backlash online." In under a year, at least two CAA teams have had professors get bad publicity, including a Drexel professor who stole from the school or a research grant or something.

Mike Adams has been outspoken for many, many years. If you're not familiar with him you should look up his tenure status and last suit against the UNC system. There was a point when I valued having a conservative voice at UNCW, although I never had a class of his and I don't know every position he holds. Of the opinions he openly expresses, there are many that objectionable and outright wrong. Going back a decade when I first learned of him, he's always had controversial opinions, but he's entered the Skip Bayless category where being controversial is his whole purpose and he's competing with himself to be more outlandish with every tweet.

I believe future generations would benefit from hearing conservative viewpoints in academia, but it should be principled and with integrity. I don't think we're getting that with Adams.

There are a lot of people actively trying to have him removed.

I took a class with Dr. Adams when I was a student, seeking him out specifically for one of my general elective courses. I respected his opinions, and admit that pretty much all of them are backed with facts.

But just because you're correct, doesn't mean it HAS to be said, and in such a way that there isn't a lot of love behind the words. He's a strong Christian and when you read to the end of a lot of his articles, he states that he says the thing he says out of love and for the benefit of people. But that rings hollow when you're sending out simple tweets that seem to just be looking to get a reaction.

Jesus was crucified for the things he said, no doubt about it. He had strong convictions and spoke with authority and boldness to his political and religious enemies. But there was also love and kindness behind his words too, especially when you consider the conversation with the Samaritan woman at the well who had 5 husbands. Jesus was the first feminist and one of the first people to promote love between all people, regardless of their beliefs and backgrounds, and presumably, the color of their skin.

I just don't see that coming from Dr. Adams in recent years. And its sad, because I do think Universities like UNCW have a problem with voices that lean TOO far to the left, and he could be a leveraging his influence for good rather than becoming the lightning rod that he is currently.

With that said, with everything that's going on right now, Dr. Adams should be the least of anyone's worries. We have real problems that require real solutions (and many states are making them right now). Removal of a professor shouldn't be anywhere close to the top of anyone's priority list just because he has some controversial opinions.

(06-08-2020 02:22 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I took a class with Dr. Adams when I was a student, seeking him out specifically for one of my general elective courses. I respected his opinions, and admit that pretty much all of them are backed with facts.

But just because you're correct, doesn't mean it HAS to be said, and in such a way that there isn't a lot of love behind the words. He's a strong Christian and when you read to the end of a lot of his articles, he states that he says the thing he says out of love and for the benefit of people. But that rings hollow when you're sending out simple tweets that seem to just be looking to get a reaction.

Jesus was crucified for the things he said, no doubt about it. He had strong convictions and spoke with authority and boldness to his political and religious enemies. But there was also love and kindness behind his words too, especially when you consider the conversation with the Samaritan woman at the well who had 5 husbands. Jesus was the first feminist and one of the first people to promote love between all people, regardless of their beliefs and backgrounds, and presumably, the color of their skin.

I just don't see that coming from Dr. Adams in recent years. And its sad, because I do think Universities like UNCW have a problem with voices that lean TOO far to the left, and he could be a leveraging his influence for good rather than becoming the lightning rod that he is currently.

With that said, with everything that's going on right now, Dr. Adams should be the least of anyone's worries. We have real problems that require real solutions (and many states are making them right now). Removal of a professor shouldn't be anywhere close to the top of anyone's priority list just because he has some controversial opinions.

SN08 that was a great post. Well said

I think he came from TCU. When UNCW hired him they thought they were getting a liberal atheist professor. But sometime in the transition he became a conservative Christian.

According to a letter from the chancellor - adams has agreed to retire as of Aug. 1.

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Make no bones about it, it's a pseudo-forced retirement that is mutually beneficial in the long run for both parties.

Regardless, I'm pulling all of my financial giving from UNCW. I'm no longer choosing to support an institution of "higher education" that caves to online bullying simply because a large number of people don't like an opinion different from theirs. For decades now, many universities have become a cess pool of liberal ideology and UNCW is no different. Sure, like SN08 said (and I fully agree with) there were better ways for him to speak his mind. However, I can't and won't support this new "cancel culture" of just silencing opposition opinion. That is a very dangerous and disgusting way to go about ideological disagreement. I don't even think it's necessary to remind everyone which cultures in history chose to act in such a way and the ultimate outcomes.

So, with all of that being said... I'm no longer financially supporting my alma mater in ANY way. It's a very sad realization for me, because I still very much love the school, but I will not be complacent in my beliefs that all people should be able to be heard. All people should be able to have a voice. "Cancel Culture" and bullying anyone who is different is NOT the way forward.

(06-30-2020 11:08 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Make no bones about it, it's a pseudo-forced retirement that is mutually beneficial in the long run for both parties.

Regardless, I'm pulling all of my financial giving from UNCW. I'm no longer choosing to support an institution of "higher education" that caves to online bullying simply because a large number of people don't like an opinion different from theirs. For decades now, many universities have become a cess pool of liberal ideology and UNCW is no different. Sure, like SN08 said (and I fully agree with) there were better ways for him to speak his mind. However, I can't and won't support this new "cancel culture" of just silencing opposition opinion. That is a very dangerous and disgusting way to go about ideological disagreement. I don't even think it's necessary to remind everyone which cultures in history chose to act in such a way and the ultimate outcomes.

So, with all of that being said... I'm no longer financially supporting my alma mater in ANY way. It's a very sad realization for me, because I still very much love the school, but I will not be complacent in my beliefs that all people should be able to be heard. All people should be able to have a voice. "Cancel Culture" and bullying anyone who is different is NOT the way forward.

couldn't agree with you more. I'm sure this will go over well here. haha

(06-30-2020 11:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:08 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Make no bones about it, it's a pseudo-forced retirement that is mutually beneficial in the long run for both parties.

Regardless, I'm pulling all of my financial giving from UNCW. I'm no longer choosing to support an institution of "higher education" that caves to online bullying simply because a large number of people don't like an opinion different from theirs. For decades now, many universities have become a cess pool of liberal ideology and UNCW is no different. Sure, like SN08 said (and I fully agree with) there were better ways for him to speak his mind. However, I can't and won't support this new "cancel culture" of just silencing opposition opinion. That is a very dangerous and disgusting way to go about ideological disagreement. I don't even think it's necessary to remind everyone which cultures in history chose to act in such a way and the ultimate outcomes.

So, with all of that being said... I'm no longer financially supporting my alma mater in ANY way. It's a very sad realization for me, because I still very much love the school, but I will not be complacent in my beliefs that all people should be able to be heard. All people should be able to have a voice. "Cancel Culture" and bullying anyone who is different is NOT the way forward.

couldn't agree with you more. I'm sure this will go over well here. haha

I'm sure some here will disagree with me. Some may not voice it, and that's okay. I'll still pull for the teams, and wish the school well. I just won't be financially supporting any of it. Maybe some of these new "woke" students and/or alumni will start pitching in financially.

(06-30-2020 11:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:08 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Make no bones about it, it's a pseudo-forced retirement that is mutually beneficial in the long run for both parties.

Regardless, I'm pulling all of my financial giving from UNCW. I'm no longer choosing to support an institution of "higher education" that caves to online bullying simply because a large number of people don't like an opinion different from theirs. For decades now, many universities have become a cess pool of liberal ideology and UNCW is no different. Sure, like SN08 said (and I fully agree with) there were better ways for him to speak his mind. However, I can't and won't support this new "cancel culture" of just silencing opposition opinion. That is a very dangerous and disgusting way to go about ideological disagreement. I don't even think it's necessary to remind everyone which cultures in history chose to act in such a way and the ultimate outcomes.

So, with all of that being said... I'm no longer financially supporting my alma mater in ANY way. It's a very sad realization for me, because I still very much love the school, but I will not be complacent in my beliefs that all people should be able to be heard. All people should be able to have a voice. "Cancel Culture" and bullying anyone who is different is NOT the way forward.

couldn't agree with you more. I'm sure this will go over well here. haha

I'm sure some here will disagree with me. Some may not voice it, and that's okay. I'll still pull for the teams, and wish the school well. I just won't be financially supporting any of it. Maybe some of these new "woke" students and/or alumni will start pitching in financially.

I wasn't really speaking to the choice to not support with $$, just having that opinion. Ha

(06-30-2020 12:01 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:48 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(06-30-2020 11:08 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Make no bones about it, it's a pseudo-forced retirement that is mutually beneficial in the long run for both parties.

Regardless, I'm pulling all of my financial giving from UNCW. I'm no longer choosing to support an institution of "higher education" that caves to online bullying simply because a large number of people don't like an opinion different from theirs. For decades now, many universities have become a cess pool of liberal ideology and UNCW is no different. Sure, like SN08 said (and I fully agree with) there were better ways for him to speak his mind. However, I can't and won't support this new "cancel culture" of just silencing opposition opinion. That is a very dangerous and disgusting way to go about ideological disagreement. I don't even think it's necessary to remind everyone which cultures in history chose to act in such a way and the ultimate outcomes.

So, with all of that being said... I'm no longer financially supporting my alma mater in ANY way. It's a very sad realization for me, because I still very much love the school, but I will not be complacent in my beliefs that all people should be able to be heard. All people should be able to have a voice. "Cancel Culture" and bullying anyone who is different is NOT the way forward.

couldn't agree with you more. I'm sure this will go over well here. haha

I'm sure some here will disagree with me. Some may not voice it, and that's okay. I'll still pull for the teams, and wish the school well. I just won't be financially supporting any of it. Maybe some of these new "woke" students and/or alumni will start pitching in financially.

I wasn't really speaking to the choice to not support with $$, just having that opinion. Ha

I knew what you meant. I just wanted to throw that last little bit in there too.

Adam's gets a cool half mil to go and be a thorn in their side from the outside. Well played UNCW?

To be paid out over a five year period. It was their cheapest option.

Sartarelli said after an extensive negotiation process, the two parties agreed to a total settlement of $504,702.76 for lost salary and lost retirement benefits. The agreement was approved by the North Carolina Attorney General and the UNC Board of Governors.

Adams’ retirement will be effective Aug. 1.

(07-02-2020 07:37 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  To be paid out over a five year period. It was their cheapest option.

Sartarelli said after an extensive negotiation process, the two parties agreed to a total settlement of $504,702.76 for lost salary and lost retirement benefits. The agreement was approved by the North Carolina Attorney General and the UNC Board of Governors.

Adams’ retirement will be effective Aug. 1.

Well if they tried to fire him it would have cost them a lot more.

I'm just surprised they didnt grin and bear it like they have been. I'm assuming both parties had to sign a non disparagement agreement as part of the deal. But even then he made out like a bandit and will make more money now as talking head can be his full time job

https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/202...ike-adams/

1 body was found at Adams' house after a wellness check

According to the Star News, the body was adams.

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(07-23-2020 07:35 PM)Proff Wrote:  According to the Star News, the body was adams.

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Really sad news. I saw this from his lawyer, David French, this morning:

Mike Adams died today. He was my friend. He was my client. We spent seven years in court together, fighting a long battle for free speech until a jury declared him a winner -- six short years ago. I want to tell you some things about Mike. I disagreed with Mike, and I loved Mike. He could frustrate the heck out of me. I'll never forget condemning his worst statements right in front of him, speaking to the jury in closing arguments. But he was so much more than his tweets. He was relentless in his defense of life. He was fierce in his defense of free speech and due process. For everybody. Not just his allies. He was a good friend. He loved his students, and his students loved him back. You should have read his student evaluations (I did). He won teaching awards. He won service awards. His case helped preserve academic freedom.

At the same time, there was pain he did not show. He suffered loss he did not discuss.

But he trusted Jesus. He relied on God's grace. Rest in peace, my friend.

There was a really interesting Twitter thread by 1 on his old coworkers. Talked about how Adams tried to talk to him about music and rock n roll since Adam's heard he played guitar. The guy didnt really want to have anything to do with Adams so he didnt really engage.

It must have been incredibly brutal going to work everyday with people who wished you would, at best, leave the university. While one could argue he brought a lot of that on himself, part of me wonders how different things would have been if his colleagues tried to dialogue with him as opposed to turning him into a pariah. A human being can only take so much of that

(07-24-2020 06:15 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(07-23-2020 07:35 PM)Proff Wrote:  According to the Star News, the body was adams.

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Really sad news. I saw this from his lawyer, David French, this morning:

Mike Adams died today. He was my friend. He was my client. We spent seven years in court together, fighting a long battle for free speech until a jury declared him a winner -- six short years ago. I want to tell you some things about Mike. I disagreed with Mike, and I loved Mike. He could frustrate the heck out of me. I'll never forget condemning his worst statements right in front of him, speaking to the jury in closing arguments. But he was so much more than his tweets. He was relentless in his defense of life. He was fierce in his defense of free speech and due process. For everybody. Not just his allies. He was a good friend. He loved his students, and his students loved him back. You should have read his student evaluations (I did). He won teaching awards. He won service awards. His case helped preserve academic freedom.

At the same time, there was pain he did not show. He suffered loss he did not discuss.

But he trusted Jesus. He relied on God's grace. Rest in peace, my friend.

This is a very nice take into this whole situation, and should hit a lot close to home in our current environment. I'm not sure when agreeing with 100% of what someone you know says became a prereq to being friends, but when it did, that's when things changed. Sad ending to this situation

https://www.wral.com/uncw-professor-s-de.../19207338/

Ruled a suicide. Very sad. And I've seen more than one imbecile celebrating his death because they didn't agree with his views. WTF is wrong with people?!?!?!


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