(07-10-2020 09:15 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 10:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  A lot of the conversation around College Football is starting to shift to the football season being pushed to the Spring due to Covid.

ESPN has alluded that Spring Season would most likely be Conference Only Scheduling.

The Big12 is at a disadvantage with only 10 teams. A round robin schedule only gives them 9 games. There are certainly other options they can explore but expansion might be on the table.

Given the situation, I would expect geography to be a larger factor than it normally is. So SMU, Houston, Memphis (maybe BYU) would probably be near the top of the list.

Why would ANYONE want to play more than just an 8-9 game league slate in the spring?

NFL playoffs are going to be on Saturday January 9 and 16. Super Bowl is going to suck all the air out of the room first weekend in February.

NFL combine will be last week in February and invitees are going to skip practice and playing at least that week.

High prospects probably won't play at all, mid late round prospects probably quit around combine certainly after if they do well in Indy.

Draft in April, no one drafted is sticking around.

March Madness starts March 16 and is a TV juggernaut each weekend to April 5 and the Masters is the next weekend

B1G, MAC, much of the ACC, and MWC are dealing with crap weather to at least mid-March.

Forced into spring no one is going to be looking for more games to play except for independents.

Yep. People think game in the Midwest are cold in November, February can be absolutely brutal- sometimes sub zero. At least in November it can usually be in the 50s.

Guys are not going to want to play two football seasons in one calendar year. That is too taxing on the body. If a player years an ACL or something like that in the spring he has zero shot at the fall.

Yep. Where I live, it rarely snows in November and is usually 30-45 degrees. February is always when we get a few blizzards along with the annual polar vortex where temperatures dip below zero and many businesses shut down for a day or two.

November is green, February is white.

Worst-case scenario, the Big XII simply includes BYU in the round-robin for one year to get to 10 games.

(07-09-2020 10:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  A lot of the conversation around College Football is starting to shift to the football season being pushed to the Spring due to Covid.

ESPN has alluded that Spring Season would most likely be Conference Only Scheduling.

The Big12 is at a disadvantage with only 10 teams. A round robin schedule only gives them 9 games. There are certainly other options they can explore but expansion might be on the table.

Given the situation, I would expect geography to be a larger factor than it normally is. So SMU, Houston, Memphis (maybe BYU) would probably be near the top of the list.

Nice try, but Big12 expansion is DEAD. If they want a 10th game just schedule one of the teams you mentioned for one year.

(07-09-2020 10:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  A lot of the conversation around College Football is starting to shift to the football season being pushed to the Spring due to Covid.

ESPN has alluded that Spring Season would most likely be Conference Only Scheduling.

The Big12 is at a disadvantage with only 10 teams. A round robin schedule only gives them 9 games. There are certainly other options they can explore but expansion might be on the table.

Given the situation, I would expect geography to be a larger factor than it normally is. So SMU, Houston, Memphis (maybe BYU) would probably be near the top of the list.

They are really not at a disadvantage at all.

(07-10-2020 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 10:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  A lot of the conversation around College Football is starting to shift to the football season being pushed to the Spring due to Covid.

ESPN has alluded that Spring Season would most likely be Conference Only Scheduling.

The Big12 is at a disadvantage with only 10 teams. A round robin schedule only gives them 9 games. There are certainly other options they can explore but expansion might be on the table.

Given the situation, I would expect geography to be a larger factor than it normally is. So SMU, Houston, Memphis (maybe BYU) would probably be near the top of the list.

Why would ANYONE want to play more than just an 8-9 game league slate in the spring?

NFL playoffs are going to be on Saturday January 9 and 16. Super Bowl is going to suck all the air out of the room first weekend in February.

NFL combine will be last week in February and invitees are going to skip practice and playing at least that week.

High prospects probably won't play at all, mid late round prospects probably quit around combine certainly after if they do well in Indy.

Draft in April, no one drafted is sticking around.

March Madness starts March 16 and is a TV juggernaut each weekend to April 5 and the Masters is the next weekend

B1G, MAC, much of the ACC, and MWC are dealing with crap weather to at least mid-March.

Forced into spring no one is going to be looking for more games to play except for independents.

My calendar says you can start a 10 game schedule on March 6 with 1 bye week, a conference championship game, a semi final game and a national championship game before the end of May.

(07-09-2020 10:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  A lot of the conversation around College Football is starting to shift to the football season being pushed to the Spring due to Covid.

ESPN has alluded that Spring Season would most likely be Conference Only Scheduling.

The Big12 is at a disadvantage with only 10 teams. A round robin schedule only gives them 9 games. There are certainly other options they can explore but expansion might be on the table.

Given the situation, I would expect geography to be a larger factor than it normally is. So SMU, Houston, Memphis (maybe BYU) would probably be near the top of the list.

Don't most of the other conferences only play 8 games?

(07-09-2020 10:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  A lot of the conversation around College Football is starting to shift to the football season being pushed to the Spring due to Covid.

ESPN has alluded that Spring Season would most likely be Conference Only Scheduling.

The Big12 is at a disadvantage with only 10 teams. A round robin schedule only gives them 9 games. There are certainly other options they can explore but expansion might be on the table.

Given the situation, I would expect geography to be a larger factor than it normally is. So SMU, Houston, Memphis (maybe BYU) would probably be near the top of the list.

Not seeing that as an issue. Im sure they could scare up a OOC game or two if they had to. I think its expansion with schools that were already basically rejected by ESPN would be a ridiculously extreme "solution" for a one year temporary glitch. Worse case scenario is they could play a team more than once in this wierd Covid season if the number of games is a huge issue.

There isn’t going to be football this year. Even assuming that the Big XII implemented the best possible practices it would be criminally negligent to make Kansas, K-State or ISU travel into Oklahoma/Texas Red River Corridor of Rona.

Other than perhaps geography, why on earth would UCF not be of interest to the Big 12?

(07-13-2020 10:47 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Other than perhaps geography, why on earth would UCF not be of interest to the Big 12?

They subtract more than they add. Besides they are a directional school.

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(07-09-2020 10:27 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Call me crazy, but I think FCS should move to a Spring schedule on a permanent basis.

Why?

So they can spend March-June as the only football on tv.

OK, I'll call you crazy. YOU go in February, March and April & sit in a stadium in Cullowhee, North Carolina or Cheney, Washington or Brookings, South Dakota or Macomb, Illinois or Concord, New Hampshire or Pocatello, Idaho or Greely, Colorado or Orono, Maine...

Only then can you come back, tell us how wonderful it was. I doubt you'd make ridiculous statements like this again.

(07-10-2020 09:36 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 09:15 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 10:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  A lot of the conversation around College Football is starting to shift to the football season being pushed to the Spring due to Covid.

ESPN has alluded that Spring Season would most likely be Conference Only Scheduling.

The Big12 is at a disadvantage with only 10 teams. A round robin schedule only gives them 9 games. There are certainly other options they can explore but expansion might be on the table.

Given the situation, I would expect geography to be a larger factor than it normally is. So SMU, Houston, Memphis (maybe BYU) would probably be near the top of the list.

Why would ANYONE want to play more than just an 8-9 game league slate in the spring?

NFL playoffs are going to be on Saturday January 9 and 16. Super Bowl is going to suck all the air out of the room first weekend in February.

NFL combine will be last week in February and invitees are going to skip practice and playing at least that week.

High prospects probably won't play at all, mid late round prospects probably quit around combine certainly after if they do well in Indy.

Draft in April, no one drafted is sticking around.

March Madness starts March 16 and is a TV juggernaut each weekend to April 5 and the Masters is the next weekend

B1G, MAC, much of the ACC, and MWC are dealing with crap weather to at least mid-March.

Forced into spring no one is going to be looking for more games to play except for independents.

Yep. People think game in the Midwest are cold in November, February can be absolutely brutal- sometimes sub zero. At least in November it can usually be in the 50s.

Guys are not going to want to play two football seasons in one calendar year. That is too taxing on the body. If a player years an ACL or something like that in the spring he has zero shot at the fall.

Yep. Where I live, it rarely snows in November and is usually 30-45 degrees. February is always when we get a few blizzards along with the annual polar vortex where temperatures dip below zero and many businesses shut down for a day or two.

November is green, February is white.

Imagine a road game at Minnesota or Wisconsin in February.......

(07-13-2020 12:09 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 10:47 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Other than perhaps geography, why on earth would UCF not be of interest to the Big 12?

They subtract more than they add. Besides they are a directional school.

So is WEST Virginia.

Anyway, the phobia people have about directional schools and so-called commuter colleges (any school with a city name, I presume) is just stupid. Many are superior both academically and athletically to the Big XII's little brothers or sisters which are stranded in low population states out on the prairie.

(07-18-2020 04:38 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 12:09 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 10:47 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Other than perhaps geography, why on earth would UCF not be of interest to the Big 12?

They subtract more than they add. Besides they are a directional school.

So is WEST Virginia.

Anyway, the phobia people have about directional schools and so-called commuter colleges (any school with a city name, I presume) is just stupid. Many are superior both academically and athletically to the Big XII's little brothers or sisters which are stranded in low population states out on the prairie.

Athletically no.

(07-18-2020 04:38 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 12:09 PM)texoma Wrote:  

(07-13-2020 10:47 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Other than perhaps geography, why on earth would UCF not be of interest to the Big 12?

They subtract more than they add. Besides they are a directional school.

So is WEST Virginia.

Anyway, the phobia people have about directional schools and so-called commuter colleges (any school with a city name, I presume) is just stupid. Many are superior both academically and athletically to the Big XII's little brothers or sisters which are stranded in low population states out on the prairie.

West Virginia is not a directional. That’s the name of a state of which WVU is the flagship.

Who are the “many superior both academically and athletically” schools? Iowa St and Kansas are in the AAU. Kansas is a basketball blueblood. Kansas St and Oklahoma St have contended for national titles in football.

So everyone’s clear, a directional school isn’t the name of a state (North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia, North Dakota, South Dakota). It also isn’t a private school (USC, Northwestern, SMU).

A directional school is a direction added to to the state name of a public school.

North Alabama, South Alabama
Northern Arizona
Northern Colorado
Central Connecticut St
North Florida, Central Florida, South Florida
Georgia Southern
Northern Illinois, Eastern Illinois, Southern Illinois, Western Illinois, Southern Illinois-Edwardsville
Eastern Kentucky, Western Kentucky, Northern Kentucky
Southeastern Louisiana, Northwestern State
Eastern Michigan, Central Michigan, Western Michigan
Southern Mississippi
Southeast Missouri
East Carolina, Western Carolina, North Carolina Central
South Carolina Upstate
East Tennessee, Middle Tennessee
North Texas, Texas Southern
Southern Utah
Eastern Washington

(07-10-2020 09:03 AM)michael.stevens.3110 Wrote:  The Teams are SMU,Houston,Rice and Tulsa


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Why Tulsa? Have you been paying attention to their athletics lately?

(07-18-2020 04:00 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 09:36 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 09:15 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 09:10 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Why would ANYONE want to play more than just an 8-9 game league slate in the spring?

NFL playoffs are going to be on Saturday January 9 and 16. Super Bowl is going to suck all the air out of the room first weekend in February.

NFL combine will be last week in February and invitees are going to skip practice and playing at least that week.

High prospects probably won't play at all, mid late round prospects probably quit around combine certainly after if they do well in Indy.

Draft in April, no one drafted is sticking around.

March Madness starts March 16 and is a TV juggernaut each weekend to April 5 and the Masters is the next weekend

B1G, MAC, much of the ACC, and MWC are dealing with crap weather to at least mid-March.

Forced into spring no one is going to be looking for more games to play except for independents.

Yep. People think game in the Midwest are cold in November, February can be absolutely brutal- sometimes sub zero. At least in November it can usually be in the 50s.

Guys are not going to want to play two football seasons in one calendar year. That is too taxing on the body. If a player years an ACL or something like that in the spring he has zero shot at the fall.

Yep. Where I live, it rarely snows in November and is usually 30-45 degrees. February is always when we get a few blizzards along with the annual polar vortex where temperatures dip below zero and many businesses shut down for a day or two.

November is green, February is white.

Imagine a road game at Minnesota or Wisconsin in February.......

C'mon guys, it's football not golf. People can man up for a few weeks. How many places are bitter cold across all of the different regions of the country? The Spring football option has never been the preferred way to go but it may end up being the only alternative other than not playing until Fall 2021. Imagine no football revenue coming to AD coffers until then...financial crises have a way of influencing decision making.

(07-09-2020 10:04 AM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  A lot of the conversation around College Football is starting to shift to the football season being pushed to the Spring due to Covid.

ESPN has alluded that Spring Season would most likely be Conference Only Scheduling.

The Big12 is at a disadvantage with only 10 teams. A round robin schedule only gives them 9 games. There are certainly other options they can explore but expansion might be on the table.

Given the situation, I would expect geography to be a larger factor than it normally is. So SMU, Houston, Memphis (maybe BYU) would probably be near the top of the list.

Nope, they can all schedule the independents who are short on games after the other conferences pulled out on them.