We can’t ***** about the other two FBS schools not playing us and then not schedule Liberty. It’s horse manure when UVA and Tech do it to us.

For a long time NC State wouldn’t schedule ECU because Pirate fans are dentally-challenged hoodlums, but eventually it comes down to, it’s a close-by FBS game with lots of regional interest. Sadly, there where JMU finds itself.

(03-10-2024 11:30 AM)Dukes94 Wrote:  We can’t ***** about the other two FBS schools not playing us and then not schedule Liberty. It’s horse manure when UVA and Tech do it to us.

For a long time NC State wouldn’t schedule ECU because Pirate fans are dentally-challenged hoodlums, but eventually it comes down to, it’s a close-by FBS game with lots of regional interest. Sadly, there where JMU finds itself.

That's reaching a good bit trying to bring a comparison to the NC State/ECU deal. If I'm not mistaken, those two teams and fans wanted to fight each other every time they competed. They had to stop playing until it was a distant memory.

I have no problem with an early season “pracitice” game but am with those who would much rather see JMU schedule a weak FBS team. But I get the impression that we are relying on FCS games in order to make sure we get 6 home games. For now, in order to schedule the Marlands, UNCs, and VTs of the world, we need to be able to schedule a home game with a school that doesn’t expect a return game.

Isn’t that the case with Ball State? JMU is paying them $400k.
I think FCS games have been in the $200k range.

Yes it costs more money, but in the 12 team CFP you can’t afford to not spend the scheduling money to max out your SOS.

Woe be to the four G5 conference champs that are rated lower than the #1 G5 champ. With the recent wilting vote, only one G5 will be living in the limelight and have an also have a chance to knock off a blue blood on the national stage.

(03-10-2024 03:26 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Isn’t that the case with Ball State? JMU is paying them $400k.
I think FCS games have been in the $200k range.

Yes it costs more money, but in the 12 team CFP you can’t afford to not spend the scheduling money to max out your SOS.

Woe be to the four G5 conference champs that are rated lower than the #1 G5 champ. With the recent wilting vote, only one G5 will be living in the limelight and have an also have a chance to knock off a blue blood on the national stage.

Hart- have you cornered Commissioner Gill yet to speak your mind?

(03-10-2024 03:26 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Isn’t that the case with Ball State? JMU is paying them $400k.
I think FCS games have been in the $200k range.

Yes it costs more money, but in the 12 team CFP you can’t afford to not spend the scheduling money to max out your SOS.

Woe be to the four G5 conference champs that are rated lower than the #1 G5 champ. With the recent wilting vote, only one G5 will be living in the limelight and have an also have a chance to knock off a blue blood on the national stage.

I just don't think that system will last very long. The 25 or so teams at the tippy-top are just playing an entirely different sport. 100k people turn out to watch Michigan, and they get, what, 5-6 players drafted every year? We're delighted when one of our guys gets an XFL or Canadian roster spot.

Eventually the P4 will stop playing anyone else at all for fear of losing, (why bother scheduling Troy when you get to play Vanderbilt or Northwestern every year?)

I think eventually one of the networks will decide it's a better draw to have the top two G5 teams play each other on New Years than have the 6th-best teams from the B1G and SEC. Until then, the best we can hope for is the drubbing that Liberty took.

Keep in mind that our 2023 situation is likely to repeat - if we're good enough to be in the NY6 discussion, what are the chances we even have a coach the Monday after the Sun Belt title game?

(03-11-2024 11:42 AM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(03-10-2024 03:26 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Isn’t that the case with Ball State? JMU is paying them $400k.
I think FCS games have been in the $200k range.

Yes it costs more money, but in the 12 team CFP you can’t afford to not spend the scheduling money to max out your SOS.

Woe be to the four G5 conference champs that are rated lower than the #1 G5 champ. With the recent wilting vote, only one G5 will be living in the limelight and have an also have a chance to knock off a blue blood on the national stage.

I just don't think that system will last very long. The 25 or so teams at the tippy-top are just playing an entirely different sport. 100k people turn out to watch Michigan, and they get, what, 5-6 players drafted every year? We're delighted when one of our guys gets an XFL or Canadian roster spot.

They had 18 players invited to the NFL Combine this year alone, while we haven't had a participant since 2015.

(03-11-2024 11:42 AM)94computerguy Wrote:  

(03-10-2024 03:26 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Isn’t that the case with Ball State? JMU is paying them $400k.
I think FCS games have been in the $200k range.

Yes it costs more money, but in the 12 team CFP you can’t afford to not spend the scheduling money to max out your SOS.

Woe be to the four G5 conference champs that are rated lower than the #1 G5 champ. With the recent wilting vote, only one G5 will be living in the limelight and have an also have a chance to knock off a blue blood on the national stage.

I just don't think that system will last very long. The 25 or so teams at the tippy-top are just playing an entirely different sport. 100k people turn out to watch Michigan, and they get, what, 5-6 players drafted every year? We're delighted when one of our guys gets an XFL or Canadian roster spot.

Eventually the P4 will stop playing anyone else at all for fear of losing, (why bother scheduling Troy when you get to play Vanderbilt or Northwestern every year?)

I think eventually one of the networks will decide it's a better draw to have the top two G5 teams play each other on New Years than have the 6th-best teams from the B1G and SEC. Until then, the best we can hope for is the drubbing that Liberty took.

Keep in mind that our 2023 situation is likely to repeat - if we're good enough to be in the NY6 discussion, what are the chances we even have a coach the Monday after the Sun Belt title game?

The thing is, as you stated, there's 25, if that, which have all the power. There's a bunch in the power conferences who want to win some games and they aren't going to win them playing Alabama every week. Those schools need us. Having TCU make it to the championship game, or even in the playoffs, every year is miraculous. We've had Cincinatti and TCU who made it in a decade. Those guys need us and we need them. The Vandy's, Northwestern's, Duke's, and even the UVA's need us.

Saw this on the SBC board....

The ACC has already decreed none of their teams shall play at a G5 school and App is losing a home date with NC State because of that.

That's news to me....if this is official, that's a real kick in the gut for getting a P5 to come to BFS

(04-29-2024 09:26 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Saw this on the SBC board....

The ACC has already decreed none of their teams shall play at a G5 school and App is losing a home date with NC State because of that.

That's news to me....if this is official, that's a real kick in the gut for getting a P5 to come to BFS

When decisions like this are made, I truly believe they are made out of weakness, not strength.
This reminds me a lot of the A-10 refusing to play Sun Belt teams. Hasn't worked out for them too well.
I hope the G5's return the favor and refuse to play at an ACC school.
This means that the only ACC OOC away games will be at other Power schools.
Here's the part that is hilarious to me: they are going to get exposed even worse than they already have. Their W/L OOC away game record is now going to have a lot more L's. There are only so many P4 cupcakes the ACC can pick on. Plus, they are going to have to travel farther to avoid local opponents.
There's also another way to see this: G5 teams are going to need opponents. While this is specifically affecting home games, G5s are going to have to strike up deals for home/homes with other G5s... most likely teams on the east coast.
The ACC is only going to get worse by this, not better.

(04-29-2024 09:26 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Saw this on the SBC board....

The ACC has already decreed none of their teams shall play at a G5 school and App is losing a home date with NC State because of that.

That's news to me....if this is official, that's a real kick in the gut for getting a P5 to come to BFS

So no more power 5's at JMU.

Three major anti-trust lawsuits are on the horizon and it certainly will be interesting to see how much juice these suits produce. This monopoly is already so egregious and the Feds continue to let it snowball (most of them have conflicts of interest, no doubt). Gonna take a herculean, union-busting style effort to fix this crap.

Wait, union-busting? I don’t get it.

(04-29-2024 10:01 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(04-29-2024 09:26 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Saw this on the SBC board....

The ACC has already decreed none of their teams shall play at a G5 school and App is losing a home date with NC State because of that.

That's news to me....if this is official, that's a real kick in the gut for getting a P5 to come to BFS

So no more power 5's at JMU.

We'll just have to move up...