(12-03-2020 02:31 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: There is no such thing as "run them through". Dominion ballot machines have no paper ballot. You are given a card after you prove who you are after waiting in line for an hour to vote. You then stand in another line with your card and when you finally get your turn to vote you walk to the machine, place your card into the side of the machine and make your selection. After completion of toyr votes you pull out the card and drop it in a bucket to be used again. No paper is involved. The recount basically proved the MACHINE says so many votes went to each candidate. Try to keep up. You don't know what your talking about. The machines can count votes any way you want it to be and they WERE online. How else do you think results come in so fast? I vote on a Dominion machine and there are wires everywhere.
You didn't vote in Georgia, did you?
Quote:Under the new contract, Georgia will phase out the touchscreen devices it has used for the past 17 years. Those direct-recording electronic machines, also known as DREs, do not produce paper trails, raising concerns about the state’s election security and the ability to audit vote totals. The new Dominion devices feature a touchscreen on which voters make their selections, and print out paper ballots to be tabulated.
The paper ballots were counted, they matched the machine totals. And no, the machines are NOT connected to the internet.
Quote:The way the machines work, as I understand it, is that a voter enters their choices and then the machine spits out a paper ballot. That ballot is then scanned in on a separate machine. That means there’s a paper record of every single vote which the voter can check before scanning it; those paper ballots are being counted right now in the hand recount. As you’ll see in the clip below, Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger says that the difference they’ve found between the machine tabulations and the paper ballots is on the order of single digits in various counties.
Quote:"Georgia's historic first statewide audit reaffirmed that the state's new secure paper ballot voting system accurately counted and reported results," he said. "This is a credit to the hard work of our county and local elections officials who moved quickly to undertake and complete such a momentous task in a short period of time."
Raffensperger's office said in the statement that the highest error rate in any county recount was 0.73 percent. Most counties had no changes in their final tallies. The majority of the remaining counties had changes of fewer than 10 ballots
Does the voter actually see his own printed paper ballot? If not, then there is no real check. A machine that used software to change the vote could just as easily be programmed to print out the same changed vote on paper. The below quote makes me think it might be printed out at another location where the voter would have to go to another station if the wish to verify their vote integrity.
Still, worries persist about Georgia’s new voting technology. Lee, the Georgia Tech professor, wrote in January that machine-marked ballots are not reliable because of the potential for machine errors and that most individual voters will not take the time to manually verify that the printed ballot matches their choices.
I believe they do. They take it to the vote counting machine and feed it in from what I understand. Just like I do in Michigan...except that I fill in the bubbles by hand on paper.
Confirmed here...
Quote:(ATLANTA)-On the first day of early voting in Georgia, voters around the state praised the new secure and verifiable paper ballot system. Georgia voters were particularly happy about the printed paper ballot, which many noted allowed them to verify their vote before submission. Additionally, the system gained wide praise for being easy to use, fast, and reliable.
So obvious question here is what counties did they move between and is there a difference between who they voted for? I’m all for the integrity of the election, but simply stating that there are enough illegal votes that Trump could win is assuming a lot. More likely the percentage would be fairly evenly distributed.
(12-03-2020 02:31 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: There is no such thing as "run them through". Dominion ballot machines have no paper ballot. You are given a card after you prove who you are after waiting in line for an hour to vote. You then stand in another line with your card and when you finally get your turn to vote you walk to the machine, place your card into the side of the machine and make your selection. After completion of toyr votes you pull out the card and drop it in a bucket to be used again. No paper is involved. The recount basically proved the MACHINE says so many votes went to each candidate. Try to keep up. You don't know what your talking about. The machines can count votes any way you want it to be and they WERE online. How else do you think results come in so fast? I vote on a Dominion machine and there are wires everywhere.
You didn't vote in Georgia, did you?
Quote:Under the new contract, Georgia will phase out the touchscreen devices it has used for the past 17 years. Those direct-recording electronic machines, also known as DREs, do not produce paper trails, raising concerns about the state’s election security and the ability to audit vote totals. The new Dominion devices feature a touchscreen on which voters make their selections, and print out paper ballots to be tabulated.
The paper ballots were counted, they matched the machine totals. And no, the machines are NOT connected to the internet.
Quote:The way the machines work, as I understand it, is that a voter enters their choices and then the machine spits out a paper ballot. That ballot is then scanned in on a separate machine. That means there’s a paper record of every single vote which the voter can check before scanning it; those paper ballots are being counted right now in the hand recount. As you’ll see in the clip below, Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger says that the difference they’ve found between the machine tabulations and the paper ballots is on the order of single digits in various counties.
Quote:"Georgia's historic first statewide audit reaffirmed that the state's new secure paper ballot voting system accurately counted and reported results," he said. "This is a credit to the hard work of our county and local elections officials who moved quickly to undertake and complete such a momentous task in a short period of time."
Raffensperger's office said in the statement that the highest error rate in any county recount was 0.73 percent. Most counties had no changes in their final tallies. The majority of the remaining counties had changes of fewer than 10 ballots
Does the voter actually see his own printed paper ballot? If not, then there is no real check. A machine that used software to change the vote could just as easily be programmed to print out the same changed vote on paper. The below quote makes me think it might be printed out at another location where the voter would have to go to another station if the wish to verify their vote integrity.
Still, worries persist about Georgia’s new voting technology. Lee, the Georgia Tech professor, wrote in January that machine-marked ballots are not reliable because of the potential for machine errors and that most individual voters will not take the time to manually verify that the printed ballot matches their choices.
I believe they do. They take it to the vote counting machine and feed it in from what I understand. Just like I do in Michigan...except that I fill in the bubbles by hand on paper.
Confirmed here...
Quote:(ATLANTA)-On the first day of early voting in Georgia, voters around the state praised the new secure and verifiable paper ballot system. Georgia voters were particularly happy about the printed paper ballot, which many noted allowed them to verify their vote before submission. Additionally, the system gained wide praise for being easy to use, fast, and reliable.
This is how gullible you are. There is no problem having the machines re-issue a changed ballot for use in the recount. None at all.
The ballot you get will not be the one used in the recount. Its like a receipt of how you voted. A receipt that noone will ask you for in the recount.
This is how blinded by your bias you are.
Georgia kept all of the paper ballots. After you look at you choices on paper you take your ballot to the scanner, which scans your ballot and lets you know your vote was counted. Your ballot is kept by the poling place and kept in a ballot box.
During Georgia's risk limited audit they did a hand recount, they took the paper ballots and counted them comparing them to the original scanner count. If votes were being inserted by manipulating the computer system there wouldn't have been paper ballots to support those votes.
(12-03-2020 05:10 PM)umbluegray Wrote: Closed-circuit video evidence that corresponds with sworn affidavits.
Which talking point will they use for this?
Lunchbox.
Really big lunch.
Nothing to see here.
Anyone else notice all the Thousands and Thousands of Gallons of WATER GUSHING Everywhere from the Water Main Break at the State Farm Arena that the "officials" at the polls swore needed to be cleared out from where votes were being "counted"? The Media--all of them--reported Breathlessly about the Water Main problem--and all the Water and Danger at the Arena that just so happened at the EXACT SAME TIME that election votes were being tabulated where President trump Was ahead--and then? ANYONE NOTICE ALL THE WATER IN THAT VIDEO? NO! because The Media, and the Election Workers, and the Election Supervisors and Fulton County Governement officials ALL LIED! No Water anywhere! Dry as a bone.
Re-do the Election IN PERSON, ID ONLY, One Vote per legal US Citizen Voter. Sign Your name and it MUST match the Registration--you must have been registered to vote before Nov 3, 2020, and Dip your hand in Indelible Ink after you vote. Paper Ballots ONLY- NO Machines AT ANYWHERE. Hand count with Reps from each party looking 5 inches away at each and every ballot no matter How long it takes, and ALL of it on Close-up cameras. Then we'll see how many tens of thousands of illegal votes there were on Nov3 and we can reasonably compare the results.
Then, As Giuliani said last night in Michigan hearing- prosecute the perpetrators and THROW THEM ALL IN JAIL. THAT will STOP the Fraud.
Does the voter actually see his own printed paper ballot? If not, then there is no real check. A machine that used software to change the vote could just as easily be programmed to print out the same changed vote on paper. The below quote makes me think it might be printed out at another location where the voter would have to go to another station if the wish to verify their vote integrity.
Still, worries persist about Georgia’s new voting technology. Lee, the Georgia Tech professor, wrote in January that machine-marked ballots are not reliable because of the potential for machine errors and that most individual voters will not take the time to manually verify that the printed ballot matches their choices.
I believe they do. They take it to the vote counting machine and feed it in from what I understand. Just like I do in Michigan...except that I fill in the bubbles by hand on paper.
Confirmed here...
Quote:(ATLANTA)-On the first day of early voting in Georgia, voters around the state praised the new secure and verifiable paper ballot system. Georgia voters were particularly happy about the printed paper ballot, which many noted allowed them to verify their vote before submission. Additionally, the system gained wide praise for being easy to use, fast, and reliable.
This is how gullible you are. There is no problem having the machines re-issue a changed ballot for use in the recount. None at all.
The ballot you get will not be the one used in the recount. Its like a receipt of how you voted. A receipt that noone will ask you for in the recount.
This is how blinded by your bias you are.
Georgia kept all of the paper ballots. After you look at you choices on paper you take your ballot to the scanner, which scans your ballot and lets you know your vote was counted. Your ballot is kept by the poling place and kept in a ballot box.
During Georgia's risk limited audit they did a hand recount, they took the paper ballots and counted them comparing them to the original scanner count. If votes were being inserted by manipulating the computer system there wouldn't have been paper ballots to support those votes.
Like I said......you are gullible......
Not only that, if you such an "IP" expert as you claim, you should know this. Unless you are another UniversityofMemphis type dude that had cisco certification but works as a pharmacy tech.
(12-03-2020 03:48 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: For those that say there is no evidence of fraud in Georgia, there is literally hours of testimony alleging fraud in a hearing being held in Georgia live on TV right now. People are free to say they dont like the evidence or dont think its significant--but the media claims that the presidents allegations of fraud are "without evidence" and "baseless" are at this point clearly false, baseless, and have no basis in reality. My guess is the media will soon be forced to move off of the "baseless/without evidence" claims and their argument will morph to "the evidence is insufficient to overturn thousands of votes". Personally, I'd argue that if these really are fake votes, then you arent "overturning" anything by disallowing them.
Unfortunately, I think it will come down to there just not being enough time to really dig into all these witness claims.
Yo're two steps behind, unfortunately. They long since admitted there was "some fraud", and they long since have been saying it's "not enough to change outcomes". Their latest talking Point is that "We've ALWAYS done things this way--so why be bothered about it now?--Can't Change the way we've ALWAYS Stolen elections and Defrauded and disenfranchised Voters. THAT is the Current Talking Point. Stay up to date, please. Or they'll getcha too!
2,056 felons illegally voted
66,248 under 18 voted
2,423 weren’t registered at all
1,043 used a PO Box
4,926 voted past the reg. date
10,315 died before the election
395 voted in two states
15,700 moved out of state
40,279 changed county and didn’t re-register to vote
Every one of the "workers" on the floor for the after-hours counting needs to be brought in and questioned separately.
should be easy enough to track down who they were.
If they have nothing to hide they shouldn't mind answering a few questions.
(12-03-2020 03:14 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Does the voter actually see his own printed paper ballot? If not, then there is no real check. A machine that used software to change the vote could just as easily be programmed to print out the same changed vote on paper. The below quote makes me think it might be printed out at another location where the voter would have to go to another station if the wish to verify their vote integrity.
Still, worries persist about Georgia’s new voting technology. Lee, the Georgia Tech professor, wrote in January that machine-marked ballots are not reliable because of the potential for machine errors and that most individual voters will not take the time to manually verify that the printed ballot matches their choices.
I believe they do. They take it to the vote counting machine and feed it in from what I understand. Just like I do in Michigan...except that I fill in the bubbles by hand on paper.
Confirmed here...
Quote:(ATLANTA)-On the first day of early voting in Georgia, voters around the state praised the new secure and verifiable paper ballot system. Georgia voters were particularly happy about the printed paper ballot, which many noted allowed them to verify their vote before submission. Additionally, the system gained wide praise for being easy to use, fast, and reliable.
This is how gullible you are. There is no problem having the machines re-issue a changed ballot for use in the recount. None at all.
The ballot you get will not be the one used in the recount. Its like a receipt of how you voted. A receipt that noone will ask you for in the recount.
This is how blinded by your bias you are.
Georgia kept all of the paper ballots. After you look at you choices on paper you take your ballot to the scanner, which scans your ballot and lets you know your vote was counted. Your ballot is kept by the poling place and kept in a ballot box.
During Georgia's risk limited audit they did a hand recount, they took the paper ballots and counted them comparing them to the original scanner count. If votes were being inserted by manipulating the computer system there wouldn't have been paper ballots to support those votes.
Like I said......you are gullible......
Not only that, if you such an "IP" expert as you claim, you should know this. Unless you are another UniversityofMemphis type dude that had cisco certification but works as a pharmacy tech.
What does IP networking have to do with Georgia paper ballots.
Your dumb ass assumed people were keeping their print out, this isn't the case. Georgia has a paper ballot for every vote cast, this is how you audit against the electronic count. Georgia already completed a risk limited audit where they did a hand recount of paper ballots. I was just correcting your stupid assumptions.
(12-03-2020 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: I suppose I should remind you, A G A I N, that Georgia has already done a hand recount and found no material discrepancies between the paper results and those counted on the Dominion machines.
Yes, we've already covered this.
We understand your talking point.
I guess facts, to liars, are talking points.
Ignore the fake water main break and you admit there was mass fraud. No other explanation for shutting down if there was no water main break. But according to you, at least no ballots were “lost”.
