The SEC has built quite the empire. Does anyone think there’s a chance that they aspire to be THE college football conference?

At this point they could one by one cherry pick the rest of the P5 like they did to the Big 12 and build a mega conference of a size of their choosing.

If forced between choosing between being perpetual second fiddle to the SEC, would the top 7-8 Big 10 be able to resist an invitation to join Mickey’s Evil Empire?

I think they turn slightly North…East towards Duke, North Carolina, and Virginia. The B1G has to stay strong. Every strong protagonist needs a strong antagonist. Yin to their yang. So the B1G and SEC need each other.

Everyone knew Oklahoma and Texas weren't going to B1G after Warren mismanaged the Covid crisis last fall.

Regarding SEC, I think they're done with expansion for the next 4 years. Eventually, big time college football will be removed from the conference level and will be replaced by the NFL model with a Commissioner in charge.

(07-23-2021 04:36 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Everyone knew Oklahoma and Texas weren't going to B1G after Warren mismanaged the Covid crisis last fall.

Regarding SEC, I think they're done with expansion for the next 4 years. Eventually, big time college football will be removed from the conference level and will be replaced by the NFL model with a Commissioner in charge.

Yes, no, and yes.

Yes the Big 10 office screwed the pooch on their handling of COVID and it did impact both OU and UT's outlook.

No the SEC is not done if the ACC is raided and ND is the easiest mark to buy out due to the ACC only owning 2 ND away games one year and 3 the next alternating, I think it starts a run for the money with Chapel Hill and Charlottesville. So if ad leverage in Florida is available FSU becomes a target and possibly Clemson. Both the Gators and Gamecocks are extremely concerned about possibly losing their ticket priority donation games and both would be very relieved (not fans, AD's) if they were in. Who else? A North Carolina or Virginia school, or possibly Kanas for Missouri.

Yes we eventually wind up in 2 Leagues likely called B1G and SEC with about 24 to 30 schools each. There are going to be schools who will drop out of the current 65 because of finances and priorities.

I hate all of this.

SEC fan here. In the 2011 expansion version the Mr. sEC expounding on expansion article mentioned Maryland and Pitt as options, though they were lower on the SEC totem pole.

I see that as the equivalent of Vandy/KY to the Big 10.

Florida State/Clemson and a VA/NC school would end it for the SEC. Even those 4 dont really add value at this point, which is why we went after Texas/OK.

I'm guessing the Big 10 wants UNC and UVA and I don't know about Duke. I'd say Big 10 gets those three and GT and the SEC grabs Clemson/FSU/VT and NC State.

The SEC threshold for new members is now even higher for new members. Maybe they add some for self-defense.

I definitely think the SEC would listen and probably accept the most valuable Big Ten schools. Imagine a foursome of Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, and Notre Dame.

(07-23-2021 08:11 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  The SEC threshold for new members is now even higher for new members. Maybe they add some for self-defense.

I definitely think the SEC would listen and probably accept the most valuable Big Ten schools. Imagine a foursome of Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, and Notre Dame.

That would put all of the 100,000 seat stadia in one conference I think.

(07-23-2021 05:59 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-23-2021 04:36 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Everyone knew Oklahoma and Texas weren't going to B1G after Warren mismanaged the Covid crisis last fall.

Regarding SEC, I think they're done with expansion for the next 4 years. Eventually, big time college football will be removed from the conference level and will be replaced by the NFL model with a Commissioner in charge.

Yes, no, and yes.

Yes the Big 10 office screwed the pooch on their handling of COVID and it did impact both OU and UT's outlook.

No the SEC is not done if the ACC is raided and ND is the easiest mark to buy out due to the ACC only owning 2 ND away games one year and 3 the next alternating, I think it starts a run for the money with Chapel Hill and Charlottesville. So if ad leverage in Florida is available FSU becomes a target and possibly Clemson. Both the Gators and Gamecocks are extremely concerned about possibly losing their ticket priority donation games and both would be very relieved (not fans, AD's) if they were in. Who else? A North Carolina or Virginia school, or possibly Kanas for Missouri.

Yes we eventually wind up in 2 Leagues likely called B1G and SEC with about 24 to 30 schools each. There are going to be schools who will drop out of the current 65 because of finances and priorities.

B1G would have to coordinate with SEC to get the majority of the ACC schools to agree to dissolve their GOR. And, if this were to happen, I'd want to include PAC-12 in any deal. Then the two remaining conferences could work together to maximize value in the next round of negotiations with the media companies.