(04-08-2022 01:03 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(04-08-2022 11:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-07-2022 08:18 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(04-07-2022 05:45 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  On the WMU board they're talking about Fred Upton just announcing his retirement. He was one of the few R's to vote for impeachment. Everyone fearing a 'Trump cult member' will be elected to replace him.

One can only hope!

The D's are scared guys. R's that run on Trump politics are winning elections. Let's keep the movement going!

They wouldn't be so scared if they weren't seeing it.

Careful there Bronc. Forum rules say that you are not allowed to make gratuitous mentions of Donald Trump.

Oh wait, you’re a fan of his. Never mind.

and there he is again......

Yeah, I know. Annoying, ain't I?

Back in high school I used to keep my unwelcome thoughts to myself. Although not myself one of the cool kids, they at least let me hang out on the perimeter. But God forbid if I ever speak up on something that went against the grain. If I had, I've been labeled an untouchable and no cute girl would ever have given me the time of day. (Not that I had much success on that front anyway.)

You Trump worshippers, cool as you are, don't have that power over me. I finally managed to marry a cute girl, and she is still with me 37 years later. (But, just to be safe, I won't tell her that most of the cool kids on this forum think that I'm dogshit.)

See, here's the thing, UMSU - - and this is very much on topic for this particular thread: there is a red tsunami of coming our way in November. It has been a long time in coming. It is more than warranted. And, frighteningly, there is one man who can single-handedly stop it.

You can tiptoe around the s.o.b., if you want to remain part of the cool bunch on this forum. You'll be in good company if you do. Or you can do what I suspect most of you know is right and acknowledge him as a dangerous threat to our nation.

Your call.

That made me laugh aloud. +3 shere khan

FWIW, R’s held onto this seat 54/46 in the blue wave year of 2018. It was 59/41 for the R in 2020:

Quote:Josh Kraushaar
@HotlineJosh
Long Island sound: "With about 7,100 votes counted, Republican Ari Brown holds a huge 66-34 lead over Democrat David Lobl in a Long Island [NY leg] seat Trump took 52-47 in 2020. Uncounted mail-in votes may shift the margin, but Brown has declared victory in this GOP-held seat."
2:31 PM · Apr 11, 2022

(04-08-2022 01:03 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(04-08-2022 11:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-07-2022 08:18 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(04-07-2022 05:45 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  On the WMU board they're talking about Fred Upton just announcing his retirement. He was one of the few R's to vote for impeachment. Everyone fearing a 'Trump cult member' will be elected to replace him.

One can only hope!

The D's are scared guys. R's that run on Trump politics are winning elections. Let's keep the movement going!

They wouldn't be so scared if they weren't seeing it.

Careful there Bronc. Forum rules say that you are not allowed to make gratuitous mentions of Donald Trump.

Oh wait, you’re a fan of his. Never mind.

and there he is again......

Yeah, I know. Annoying, ain't I?

Back in high school I used to keep my unwelcome thoughts to myself. Although not myself one of the cool kids, they at least let me hang out on the perimeter. But God forbid if I ever speak up on something that went against the grain. If I had, I've been labeled an untouchable and no cute girl would ever have given me the time of day. (Not that I had much success on that front anyway.)

You Trump worshippers, cool as you are, don't have that power over me. I finally managed to marry a cute girl, and she is still with me 37 years later. (But, just to be safe, I won't tell her that most of the cool kids on this forum think that I'm dogshit.)

See, here's the thing, UMSU - - and this is very much on topic for this particular thread: there is a red tsunami of coming our way in November. It has been a long time in coming. It is more than warranted. And, frighteningly, there is one man who can single-handedly stop it.

You can tiptoe around the s.o.b., if you want to remain part of the cool bunch on this forum. You'll be in good company if you do. Or you can do what I suspect most of you know is right and acknowledge him as a dangerous threat to our nation.

Your call.

Speaking for myself I don't think you're dogshit at all, far from it. I do think you lack the ability, or possibly the objectivity required, to put aside your personal distaste of the man. We all know why you think he is dangerous but don't agree. And that's OK I think because it is that singular issue that isolates you. I believe you have stated that you voted for him and would do so again if he wins the nomination. That's good enough for me.

I'll vote for whoever the GOP nominates simply because I cannot and will not vote for a dem and don't know enough about - or even really care to know - about any 3rd party candidates and consider voting 3rd party akin to tilting at windmills.

To be dogshit you would have to be a happy clapping water carrier for the democrat party like a few here are or a true never-Trumper.

There is a Red Train coming .......

Quote:Herschel Walker
@HerschelWalker

As a Christian and a father, I am proudly pro-life. Reverend Warnock says he is a pro-choice pastor. Every life is precious and created by God, and Georgians deserve a Senator who will always stand up for life. @NRLC

--Herschel Walker

9:24 AM · Apr 20, 2022

(04-13-2022 01:20 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Speaking for myself I don't think you're dogshit at all, far from it. I do think you lack the ability, or possibly the objectivity required, to put aside your personal distaste of the man. We all know why you think he is dangerous but don't agree. And that's OK I think because it is that singular issue that isolates you. I believe you have stated that you voted for him and would do so again if he wins the nomination. That's good enough for me.

I'll vote for whoever the GOP nominates simply because I cannot and will not vote for a dem and don't know enough about - or even really care to know - about any 3rd party candidates and consider voting 3rd party akin to tilting at windmills.

To be dogshit you would have to be a happy clapping water carrier for the democrat party like a few here are or a true never-Trumper.

Can I ask a simple question of you?

If there was a viable Republican candidate who was not Trump but running against Trump, would you pick that person over Trump in a head to head run off?

I don't think Monarch is a Never-Trumper. If it comes down to Harris (or pretty much ANY other D right now) versus Trump he is voting Trump.


Take a half step back for a minute and look at Trump and think about the 4 years he was in that building. His policies (IMO) were solid overall, but he was so divisive (personally) to the left that they would vote against anything he endorsed even if was to cure cancer forever. How is that helpful in rebuilding some level of reasonable discourse between the two sides?

The United States is skidding on ice, and the over-correction with each slide to the left and back to the right just deepens the vitriol on both sides. Obama ignited the skid to the left, Trump was a severe over correction, and now we have Captain Alzheimer's at the helm as a result.

Spite will kill this country as much as any other problem facing us.

The Republican party has a shot here to find a kinder and gentler version of Trump. Someone who at least appears to be a negotiator and rebuild a few bridges rather than act like a bully.



I will vote for Trump if Trump wins the R nomination, but I too would prefer that another Republican Candidate take the reigns and deliver the Trump message in a non-Trump way.

I have a hard time seeing ANY Republican winning in today's environment. Just nominate Trump & have him go down as a martyr. DeSantis, etc. would just be painted as a Trump reincarnation, plus GA & AZ are lost just like CO & VA before them, & making no progress in MI, WI, & PA.

(04-22-2022 12:00 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

Quote:Herschel Walker
@HerschelWalker

As a Christian and a father, I am proudly pro-life. Reverend Warnock says he is a pro-choice pastor. Every life is precious and created by God, and Georgians deserve a Senator who will always stand up for life. @NRLC

--Herschel Walker

9:24 AM · Apr 20, 2022

They are gonna have to pull off some serious shenanigans in GA to defeat Herschel as well as getting that fat gap chocopotamous in as gov. They may have to break every water main in Atlanta on election night this time.

(04-22-2022 07:35 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  If there was a viable Republican candidate who was not Trump but running against Trump, would you pick that person over Trump in a head to head run off?

Hard to say in advance. It would depend on who that candidate was, how strong I perceived them to be in ’24, how strong I perceived Trump to be, etc.

Quote:[Trump’s] policies (IMO) were solid overall, but he was so divisive (personally) to the left that they would vote against anything he endorsed even if was to cure cancer forever. How is that helpful in rebuilding some level of reasonable discourse between the two sides?

I don’t dispute this, but it’s critical to remember that “the left” treated Bush/Cheney, McCain/Palin and Romney/Ryan *exactly the same way.* I’m not automatically opposed to the conciliatory/diplomatic approach. But at some point, you have to ask yourself what is gained by it.

Quote:The United States is skidding on ice, and the over-correction with each slide to the left and back to the right just deepens the vitriol on both sides… Spite will kill this country as much as any other problem facing us.

I don’t dispute this, either. To me, though, it doesn’t really connect to Trump, personally, for the same reason I said before.

Quote:The Republican party has a shot here to find a kinder and gentler version of Trump. Someone who at least appears to be a negotiator and rebuild a few bridges rather than act like a bully.

Do you have someone in mind? Because DeSantis is really the only plausible alternative I see for the time being. And while it’s still early, I really don’t think the other side is going to be more calm or accepting of him than it was of Trump. So at the end of the day, my only real question is which one is more able to put 270 “points” on the Electoral College scoreboard. And that is a question that can’t be seriously answered for another 18 months or so.

(04-22-2022 08:07 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  So at the end of the day, my only real question is which one is more able to put 270 “points” on the Electoral College scoreboard.

And that is the essential question. Along with finding senate and HOR candidates who can get >50% of the vote.

You can't do anything if you don't win elections.

(04-22-2022 08:52 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 08:07 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  So at the end of the day, my only real question is which one is more able to put 270 “points” on the Electoral College scoreboard.

And that is the essential question. Along with finding senate and HOR candidates who can get >50% of the vote.

You can't do anything if you don't win elections.

you also can't win when ballot harvesting runs amok...

ref: the hattiesburger former mayor that got his arse creamed once the kielbasa was shoved down 'the district that always tallied last' ... yeah, we finally fixed that bs (ballots found in the trunk of cars)

youston proper is in a tailspin right now ... don't count out your state falling into those hands in the not-to-distant-future...

if tejas falls, this country will be doomed beyond repair...

(04-22-2022 08:07 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 07:35 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  If there was a viable Republican candidate who was not Trump but running against Trump, would you pick that person over Trump in a head to head run off?

Hard to say in advance. It would depend on who that candidate was, how strong I perceived them to be in ’24, how strong I perceived Trump to be, etc.

Quote:[Trump’s] policies (IMO) were solid overall, but he was so divisive (personally) to the left that they would vote against anything he endorsed even if was to cure cancer forever. How is that helpful in rebuilding some level of reasonable discourse between the two sides?

I don’t dispute this, but it’s critical to remember that “the left” treated Bush/Cheney, McCain/Palin and Romney/Ryan [b]*exactly the same way.* I’m not automatically opposed to the conciliatory/diplomatic approach. But at some point, you have to ask yourself what is gained by it.[/b]

Quote:The United States is skidding on ice, and the over-correction with each slide to the left and back to the right just deepens the vitriol on both sides… Spite will kill this country as much as any other problem facing us.

I don’t dispute this, either. To me, though, it doesn’t really connect to Trump, personally, for the same reason I said before.

Quote:The Republican party has a shot here to find a kinder and gentler version of Trump. Someone who at least appears to be a negotiator and rebuild a few bridges rather than act like a bully.

Do you have someone in mind? Because DeSantis is really the only plausible alternative I see for the time being. And while it’s still early, I really don’t think the other side is going to be more calm or accepting of him than it was of Trump. So at the end of the day, my only real question is which one is more able to put 270 “points” on the Electoral College scoreboard. And that is a question that can’t be seriously answered for another 18 months or so.

My concerns have less to do with "the politics" and more to do with the public. Every President in office is treated like schidt by the opposing party. That is just standard mode of operation. It seems that the general public discourse however is what is off the charts. Maybe it is just the times we are in (social media and all) but I cannot recall a time in my life where the divide was so wide.

There are always extreme right and left - always. It is the true moderates or middles (the one I like to call the sane people) who are moving off that boat as quickly as Kamala' Staff is jumping out of her camp.

And to answer you other question - I am only speaking in hypotheticals right now - I am not advocating for DeSantis over Trump or anyone else. If there was a more personally tolerable version of Trump would you vote for him (or her) over Trump?

For the record I am not sure that person exists yet? DeSantis could be that, but I have a bad feeling that he is overplaying his hand with this Disney thing.

(04-22-2022 08:02 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  They are gonna have to pull off some serious shenanigans in GA to defeat Herschel as well as getting that fat gap chocopotamous in as gov. They may have to break every water main in Atlanta on election night this time.

Sir! I am APALLED! That is an INSULT of the HIGHEST ORDER...please do swear, o, kind sir, to NEVER AGAIN insult Chocolate by comparing it to that lard-filled monstrosity of excrement the Demokkkrats have put forth as their SouthernHitler.

(04-22-2022 05:09 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(04-22-2022 08:02 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  They are gonna have to pull off some serious shenanigans in GA to defeat Herschel as well as getting that fat gap chocopotamous in as gov. They may have to break every water main in Atlanta on election night this time.

Sir! I am APALLED! That is an INSULT of the HIGHEST ORDER...please do swear, o, kind sir, to NEVER AGAIN insult Chocolate by comparing it to that lard-filled monstrosity of excrement the Demokkkrats have put forth as their SouthernHitler.

YEAH, I'm with you Good, I just bought a large bad of chocolate Kisses and I'll be envisioning that lard S every time I eat one. Thanks a lot Mem...for nothing.

(04-07-2022 08:18 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(04-07-2022 05:45 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  On the WMU board they're talking about Fred Upton just announcing his retirement. He was one of the few R's to vote for impeachment. Everyone fearing a 'Trump cult member' will be elected to replace him.

One can only hope!

The D's are scared guys. R's that run on Trump politics are winning elections. Let's keep the movement going!

They wouldn't be so scared if they weren't seeing it.

Careful there Bronc. Forum rules say that you are not allowed to make gratuitous mentions of Donald Trump.

Oh wait, you’re a fan of his. Never mind.

You are also anti-Ron Desantis and anti-Greg Abbott. If you are a globalist, how can you in good conscience vote for someone who dumped illegal immigrants on your state?? Isn't the party line "Well, border states, it's your problem. You fix it, and not with my dollars, thank you." You said that in so many words when you voted for Biden, whether you want to admit that to yourself or not. And now, the very guy you might want to vote for, as your claim, DeSantis, dumped illegal immigrants on Delaware. Is he going to dump some on Virginia next?? Don't be so sure he won't. Virginia is a predominantly blue state, so you could be seeing some illegals headed your way. Oh and be ready to see men in robes and mostly covered women at your local Walmart. Did I mention that you might need to learn Spanish also just to communicate with other Walmart customers on a daily basis?? Oh, and something else on DeSantis, that you may not be familiar with as a leftist: DeSantis could care a less about the environment, because he has guys actually imposing themselves on private property to allegedly spray for a water hyacinth that's taking over the state and sprayed local Floridian plants that posed no real threat to Floridians at all. Did I mention that he is anti-Disney too?? Don't you leftists love Disney?? Isn't Disney one of your biggest supporters??? Did you know that Governor Desantis is making moves to severely limit Disney's autonomy within the state of Florida?? I must ask you again, Adopted Monarch, are you really a DeSantis fan??? Oh, and you love George Soros and Klaus Schwab too!! Don't know who Klaus Schwab is??? Google the International Monetary Fund, and you will find out quite a bit about Mr. Klaus Schwab.

If you want to talk treason, then why don't you push for the court-martial of General Mark Milley for treason?? There's certainly enough to try him for that, IMO.

I’m in a charitable mood this morning, so I’ll just chalk up your latest spew to drunk posting BamaDawg.

Sounds like you had a blast last night.

(04-22-2022 09:33 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  you also can't win when ballot harvesting runs amok...

So do something to fix the problem. You can't win 2020, because no matter what you can prove, it is still virtually impossible to take ballots back out of the box. You win 2022 and 2024, so quit crying over spilt milk and get busy fixing what you can fix.

Quote:youston proper is in a tailspin right now ... don't count out your state falling into those hands in the not-to-distant-future...

Don't know how closely you have been following, but Harris County threw out the best County Judge (county CEO in Texas terminology) they had ever had (republican with broad bipartisan support and a Rice guy), and replaced him with AOC south. She's been totally incompetent, and Rangers (the LEOs, not the baseball team) are about to fit her and most of her staff for orange suits, so that one way swing back.

Quote:if tejas falls, this country will be doomed beyond repair...

I used to say no way that would ever happen. I still think its's further away than some of the pundits think, but it is close enough to be scary. Cruz beat Robert Francis O'Rourke fairly handily, even running the worst campaign since Claytie Williams, but it looked scary for a while.

Are republicans scared to win elections? Starting to look that way.

(04-06-2022 06:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  From a national perspective, each one of these “little” elections is like a grain of sand on the political beach. But taken altogether, they really do point towards an absolute meltdown for Team Blue in 7 months, unless some major event intervenes in the meantime.

I just worry that the major event will be republicans proving once again that they suck at winning elections. If republicans don't win big--1994 big--in November, heads need to roll, starting with Milquetoast Mitch and Useless McCarthy.

(04-06-2022 06:34 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Would a plan-demic and voting irregularities by the truckload be considered major events?

But that's because republicans let them. Hell, all the election irregularities and ballot-stuffing in 2020 came about because republicans stood by and watched democrats rewrite the rules to eliminate what few controls they had over election integrity in the summer of 2020. And exactly what have republicans done to fix the problems since, Enough to eliminate your concerns? Obviously, not enough.

Are republicans afraid to win elections? And when they do win, why don't they do the things they say they will do? I'm beginning to think they'd rather stand around and *itch about the other guys that take the keys and drive the car back onto the road--the one that doesn't lead over the cliff.