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The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 03:34 AM)FastTheo Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:43 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Rice has:
Three Cotton Bowl wins
One Orange Bowl win.

Bragging about bowl wins that happened during the Truman administration. Power 6 04-rock
Nah, I was just comparing our best five bowl wins to the best five from the school of the fan who claimed, falsely, that we had ‘never won anything’

Besides our Hawaii Bowl MWC win, we also have a MWC win in the Armed Forces Bowl and a dismantling of WMU in the Texas Bowl, all coming during what I’ll call “The ECU era”. Didn’t mention the last two because while special, they didn’t make our top five.


(09-02-2022 10:05 PM)gopirates11 Wrote:  Idiotic by the aac. We picked losers in big markets that have never won anything, and that’s coming from an average program in ecu. The sad part is odu and coastal are in great markets and app has done nothing but win the last 2 decades

There is a lot of talk about football in this thread. Rice has been arguably, the best overall in CUSA and projects to be in the top three immediately in at least a half dozen sports once we join this league.

ECU had a solid baseball team this year and really should have played in Omaha. Rice made Omaha 5 seasons in 10 years and besides the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, was in the final four three of those five years.

“never won anything” only accurate if you only look at the last seven years, and only look at football.

Most of us (including lots of Pirate fans, thank you, arrr!) aren’t that myopic.

But it is because of some Pirates’ attitudes like this fans that I will look forward to beating ECU in most sports next year in the AAC.

Todge got it right.
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RE: The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 07:17 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 06:58 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 06:37 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  SunBelt dogs go beat your chest on your own forum. Nobody cares.

Hey they're proud of beating a team from the American...

Wait, what?
ODU win over an ACC team (that went 6-7(4-4) last year) has nothing to do with the AAC? Then why are they here?

Weird

They are really at the point of trolling.

It is how some AAC legacy members feel after CUSA6 boosters like those from Charlotte trash AAC programs and proclaim their superiority when they are not even AAC members yet.
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RE: The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 12:28 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:48 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Georgia State wasn't interested. I'm sure that became even more firm when it was becoming known who was likely going to be invited to the AAC.
Cool story.

By 9/28/21, Georgia State knew it wasn’t getting an invite and responded by putting the word out to friendly media that it didn’t want one in the first place. As a Georgia State fan/alum, I understand that response as a PR-move. That doesn’t make it true. And it’s not true.

What’s done is done. The AAC made 2 strong adds (UAB/UTSA), two decent adds (UNT/FAU), one weak add (Rice) and one terrible add (UNCC). After AAC took what it wanted (or should I say, after AAC took what ESPN told it to take?), the Sun Belt took what it wanted from what was left. And as I’m happy to admit, the Belt did rather well for itself in that process. Life goes on.

If curious, here's what our AD said in a memo.

https://georgiastatesports.com/news/2021...ition.aspx
"Without question, the current American Athletic Conference was a desired future aspiration; however, with the departure of like urban universities, the reconstituted league with CUSA schools moving does not stack up against what we were concurrently creating in an expanded Sun Belt Conference."

This is our perspective that's made public.
1) GSU leadership got spooked that AAC added so many from struggling CUSA, perception or otherwise.
2) SBC convinced us that the league is trending up in financial security and media exposure.
3) Fair or not, we just don't know if there's real solidarity in the AAC long-term at this point.
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RE: The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 08:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 07:17 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 06:58 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 06:37 AM)ECBrad Wrote:  SunBelt dogs go beat your chest on your own forum. Nobody cares.

Hey they're proud of beating a team from the American...

Wait, what?
ODU win over an ACC team (that went 6-7(4-4) last year) has nothing to do with the AAC? Then why are they here?

Weird

They are really at the point of trolling.

It is how some AAC legacy members feel after CUSA6 boosters like those from Charlotte trash AAC programs and proclaim their superiority when they are not even AAC members yet.

I admit, I cant help but chuckle when the CLT fella (the guy who speaks in third person) proclaims P6 for Charlotte, taking credit for what Houston, Memphis, Cinci, UCF, etc have done in the past.

Then his school proceeds to be blown out by a FCS team at home.
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RE: Charlotte
They're a really bad team right now. We've all been there.

RE: ODU beating VATech
They both looked awful last night. The ODU QB looked particularly bad. Also, who hasn't beaten VA Tech?

News flash: none of these teams are in the AAC. Their performances have no bearing on the AAC. Their wins and losses and markets and potential and past glory don't mean squat for the AAC.

#P6
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(09-03-2022 03:34 AM)FastTheo Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:43 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Rice has:
Three Cotton Bowl wins
One Orange Bowl win.

Bragging about bowl wins that happened during the Truman administration. Power 6 04-rock

Only one win was under Truman. One Cotton Bowl win was under Roosevelt. The other two listed were under Ike.
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RE: The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 08:11 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 12:28 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:48 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Georgia State wasn't interested. I'm sure that became even more firm when it was becoming known who was likely going to be invited to the AAC.
Cool story.

By 9/28/21, Georgia State knew it wasn’t getting an invite and responded by putting the word out to friendly media that it didn’t want one in the first place. As a Georgia State fan/alum, I understand that response as a PR-move. That doesn’t make it true. And it’s not true.

What’s done is done. The AAC made 2 strong adds (UAB/UTSA), two decent adds (UNT/FAU), one weak add (Rice) and one terrible add (UNCC). After AAC took what it wanted (or should I say, after AAC took what ESPN told it to take?), the Sun Belt took what it wanted from what was left. And as I’m happy to admit, the Belt did rather well for itself in that process. Life goes on.

If curious, here's what our AD said in a memo.

https://georgiastatesports.com/news/2021...ition.aspx
"Without question, the current American Athletic Conference was a desired future aspiration; however, with the departure of like urban universities, the reconstituted league with CUSA schools moving does not stack up against what we were concurrently creating in an expanded Sun Belt Conference."

This is our perspective that's made public.
1) GSU leadership got spooked that AAC added so many from struggling CUSA, perception or otherwise.
2) SBC convinced us that the league is trending up in financial security and media exposure.
3) Fair or not, we just don't know if there's real solidarity in the AAC long-term at this point.

Sounds like something a guy would say to his bosses explaining why he didn't get the invite for the program. C-Y-A.
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RE: The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 09:12 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:11 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 12:28 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:48 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Georgia State wasn't interested. I'm sure that became even more firm when it was becoming known who was likely going to be invited to the AAC.
Cool story.

By 9/28/21, Georgia State knew it wasn’t getting an invite and responded by putting the word out to friendly media that it didn’t want one in the first place. As a Georgia State fan/alum, I understand that response as a PR-move. That doesn’t make it true. And it’s not true.

What’s done is done. The AAC made 2 strong adds (UAB/UTSA), two decent adds (UNT/FAU), one weak add (Rice) and one terrible add (UNCC). After AAC took what it wanted (or should I say, after AAC took what ESPN told it to take?), the Sun Belt took what it wanted from what was left. And as I’m happy to admit, the Belt did rather well for itself in that process. Life goes on.

If curious, here's what our AD said in a memo.

https://georgiastatesports.com/news/2021...ition.aspx
"Without question, the current American Athletic Conference was a desired future aspiration; however, with the departure of like urban universities, the reconstituted league with CUSA schools moving does not stack up against what we were concurrently creating in an expanded Sun Belt Conference."

This is our perspective that's made public.
1) GSU leadership got spooked that AAC added so many from struggling CUSA, perception or otherwise.
2) SBC convinced us that the league is trending up in financial security and media exposure.
3) Fair or not, we just don't know if there's real solidarity in the AAC long-term at this point.

Sounds like something a guy would say to his bosses explaining why he didn't get the invite for the program. C-Y-A.

Take it as you will. No dog in the fight. I can't disagree with the AD's statements however.
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RE: The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 04:44 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 12:28 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  After AAC took what it wanted (or should I say, after AAC took what ESPN told it to take?), the Sun Belt took what it wanted from what was left.
I’m genuinely asking…where is the evidence for the “ESPN told us who to take” talking point? I’ve heard it from AAC and SBC fans who parrot each other that “the mouse decided”. Is there any actual evidence or is it a product of the echo chamber?
That is a fair point, and I willingly admit it is just a guess on my part. That’s why I framed it as a question. Maybe ESPN had nothing to do with it at all, but that leaves the question of why the AAC would’ve taken a dumpster-fire program like Charlotte when better options were on the table.

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By the way, and as a footnote to the discussion: it won’t happen now (and maybe not ever). But if UAB and Georgia State are ever in the same league, that would quickly become a marquee rivalry on both campuses.
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(09-02-2022 10:37 PM)Goronic Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:29 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  Haha let’s all relax. We have all the markets, academics, and money. Let ODU and the Sunbelt beat their chest for a day. Everyone knows where the real power resides.

Not everyone. I am sure that the AAC will keep saying they have power, and the SBC will demonstrate they have it. Once your top 3 move on and you get your new teams it is a whole new game.

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RE: The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 09:41 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  By the way, and as a footnote to the discussion: it won’t happen now (and maybe not ever). But if UAB and Georgia State are ever in the same league, that would quickly become a marquee rivalry on both campuses.

I agree with your sentiment.

I-20 directly connects GSU and UAB. Only 2hrs apart across the GA/AL state line. Geography fuels rivalry if given a chance. Huge potential for hatred and new tradition.

We have 4 games H/H scheduled with UAB, and I plan to be in every single one. Should be fun.
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RE: The aac passed up the Myrtle beach and va beach markets for uncc and rice
(09-03-2022 07:38 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 03:34 AM)FastTheo Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:43 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Rice has:
Three Cotton Bowl wins
One Orange Bowl win.

Bragging about bowl wins that happened during the Truman administration. Power 6 04-rock
Nah, I was just comparing our best five bowl wins to the best five from the school of the fan who claimed, falsely, that we had ‘never won anything’

Besides our Hawaii Bowl MWC win, we also have a MWC win in the Armed Forces Bowl and a dismantling of WMU in the Texas Bowl, all coming during what I’ll call “The ECU era”. Didn’t mention the last two because while special, they didn’t make our top five.


(09-02-2022 10:05 PM)gopirates11 Wrote:  Idiotic by the aac. We picked losers in big markets that have never won anything, and that’s coming from an average program in ecu. The sad part is odu and coastal are in great markets and app has done nothing but win the last 2 decades

There is a lot of talk about football in this thread. Rice has been arguably, the best overall in CUSA and projects to be in the top three immediately in at least a half dozen sports once we join this league.

ECU had a solid baseball team this year and really should have played in Omaha. Rice made Omaha 5 seasons in 10 years and besides the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, was in the final four three of those five years.

“never won anything” only accurate if you only look at the last seven years, and only look at football.

Most of us (including lots of Pirate fans, thank you, arrr!) aren’t that myopic.

But it is because of some Pirates’ attitudes like this fans that I will look forward to beating ECU in most sports next year in the AAC.

Todge got it right.

SMH. Please stop with chest pounding in minor sports.

Football and men's basketball are the only sports significantly moving the needle and elevating the perception of the AAC. Focus on excelling in those sports.
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Isn’t ODU the school that cancelled their entire football season during the covid year before the season started and they were the only school in Conference USA to do so? I will never understand why they did that.
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(09-02-2022 10:10 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  ODU has 3 winning seasons the past decade, they aren’t some amazing program from one upset.

You’re gonna let these weird Sunbelt fans get excited

Reframe: we started football a little over ten years ago. We were extremely successful in fcs and quickly jumped to the FBS - and have already played in two bowls games.
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(09-03-2022 04:44 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 12:28 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:48 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  Georgia State wasn't interested. I'm sure that became even more firm when it was becoming known who was likely going to be invited to the AAC.
Cool story.

By 9/28/21, Georgia State knew it wasn’t getting an invite and responded by putting the word out to friendly media that it didn’t want one in the first place. As a Georgia State fan/alum, I understand that response as a PR-move. That doesn’t make it true. And it’s not true.

What’s done is done. The AAC made 2 strong adds (UAB/UTSA), two decent adds (UNT/FAU), one weak add (Rice) and one terrible add (UNCC). After AAC took what it wanted (or should I say, after AAC took what ESPN told it to take?), the Sun Belt took what it wanted from what was left. And as I’m happy to admit, the Belt did rather well for itself in that process. Life goes on.


I’m genuinely asking…where is the evidence for the “ESPN told us who to take” talking point? I’ve heard it from AAC and SBC fans who parrot each other that “the mouse decided”. Is there any actual evidence or is it a product of the echo chamber?

Its not a secret that the league met with network officials to decide which candidates would be best. It is somewhat conjecture however that the networks told the AAC to take CUSA teams rather than SBC teams but its pretty obvious that thats exactly what did happen. Simple reason is the networks already owned the SBC content. If SBC teams were added to the AAC that content would've become quite a bit more expensive.
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clt says eCu fans should understand what happens when you lose QB1, we are on qb3

Our defense is BAD.

Go back to your shanties, lowly sunbelters!
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(09-03-2022 01:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says eCu fans should understand what happens when you lose QB1, we are on qb3

Our defense is BAD.

Go back to your shanties, lowly sunbelters!

I'd say losing QB1 certainly put a monkey wrench in the machinery for UNC-UC. Chin up clt. There will be better days ahead.
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(09-03-2022 10:31 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 07:38 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 03:34 AM)FastTheo Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 10:43 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Rice has:
Three Cotton Bowl wins
One Orange Bowl win.

Bragging about bowl wins that happened during the Truman administration. Power 6 04-rock
Nah, I was just comparing our best five bowl wins to the best five from the school of the fan who claimed, falsely, that we had ‘never won anything’

Besides our Hawaii Bowl MWC win, we also have a MWC win in the Armed Forces Bowl and a dismantling of WMU in the Texas Bowl, all coming during what I’ll call “The ECU era”. Didn’t mention the last two because while special, they didn’t make our top five.


(09-02-2022 10:05 PM)gopirates11 Wrote:  Idiotic by the aac. We picked losers in big markets that have never won anything, and that’s coming from an average program in ecu. The sad part is odu and coastal are in great markets and app has done nothing but win the last 2 decades

There is a lot of talk about football in this thread. Rice has been arguably, the best overall in CUSA and projects to be in the top three immediately in at least a half dozen sports once we join this league.

ECU had a solid baseball team this year and really should have played in Omaha. Rice made Omaha 5 seasons in 10 years and besides the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, was in the final four three of those five years.

“never won anything” only accurate if you only look at the last seven years, and only look at football.

Most of us (including lots of Pirate fans, thank you, arrr!) aren’t that myopic.

But it is because of some Pirates’ attitudes like this fans that I will look forward to beating ECU in most sports next year in the AAC.

Todge got it right.

SMH. Please stop with chest pounding in minor sports.

Football and men's basketball are the only sports significantly moving the needle and elevating the perception of the AAC. Focus on excelling in those sports.


We don’t do chest thumping.

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Good comeback with the threatening owl. I retract my Harry S. Truman smack


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(09-03-2022 03:19 PM)40smokingcannon Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 01:45 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says eCu fans should understand what happens when you lose QB1, we are on qb3

Our defense is BAD.

Go back to your shanties, lowly sunbelters!

I'd say losing QB1 certainly put a monkey wrench in the machinery for UNC-UC. Chin up clt. There will be better days ahead.

https://www.bcsnn.com/football/1884-char...e-for-2022

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