(03-11-2023 10:15 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote: (03-11-2023 04:25 PM)GarnetAndBlue Wrote: (03-11-2023 03:24 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: (03-10-2023 11:43 PM)random asian guy Wrote: In terms of the revenue gap, the ACC is already doomed. I did some calculation in anothee thread and the B1G schools would receive $30+ million more than the ACC schools during the seven year period from 2023/24-2029/30. The $30+ million difference is per year so over the seven years, a B10 school gets at least $210M more than an ACC school. The revenue gap between the BIG and the ACC will be bigger than the gap between the ACC and the AAC.
Does that mean the ACC is going to lose many member schools in 2035?
No, I don’t think so. The threshold for the P2 entry became so high now that only very few schools would be able to increase their payouts. ND would qualify for sure. Other than ND, there is no sure bet. The ACC may lose one or two schools in additon to ND, but I don’t see the ACC would lose more than two schools unless the P2 conferences adopt some type of unequal revenue sharing. But why would the P2 conferences do that? Would the ACC adopt the unequal revenue sharing so that we can add the AAC schools?
This is assuming the ACC maintains its position as #3 conference and that’s why I keep saying the ACC should expand not only for money but as a defensive strategy. The Pac had multiple chances of raiding the B12. They never did and see what’s happening now.
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I could see Florida State (but not a given), and maybe under some scheme include Clemson and UNC (I'm not sold on Miami). Dreams of the SEC absorbing 8 or more ACC schools are just that, IMHO. I don't think the money is there. Same for the Big Ten - maybe a couple of schools at most (or maybe zero).
The sooner everyone gets off this "reach for the brass ring" mentality and gets back to "growing the ACC brand", the better. As long as they don't wait too late -- the Big XII is hot on your heels, ACC!
Road blocks aside, UNC and FSU are both coveted by the SEC for various reasons at the point.
Eh???
The major reason that the SEC would express interest is for defensive reasons. They’re also fail-safe adds, if they need to keep-up with the B1G.
I don’t believe that the SEC actually covets these programs. On the other hand, the B1G has more reason to covet UNC and/or FSU, as well as ND.
The mighty Big 10 now owns less of its own Network (39%) than you get as equal partners in the NET profit of yours.
The mighty Big 10 is about 3.5 billion in value behind the SEC after the last two sets of additions. They covet Notre Dame because that is the only unattached program which can make up a little less than a third of that deficit.
The SEC isn't trying to keep up with the Big 10, they are trying to keep up with us. Why do you think they would attack their long standing best bud the PAC 12 and stab them in the back for their largest market?
What you are correct about is that N.D., UNC, and FSU hold value for the SEC. But the cost of extracting that value is not our best option. A healthy ACC as a buffer is our best option. But if you are going to break up of your own accord then protecting the region of the country where we derive our living from advertising and holding higher rates for dominance of that market will dictate a more aggressive defensive plan of action. But only if you are really in danger of blowing apart.
The SEC doesn't need North Carolina and Virginia. The Big 10 does. Appropriations come from the House. Grants are issued by a House Committee's decision. Losing census numbers and the corresponding house seats meant they needed to expand to where seats were being added. It doesn't guarantee a grant but having a palpable number of House members who have a school in their home state as part of their organization does help garner support, not for the grants, but for the Big 10. And it doesn't hurt if you have such sympathy on that committee. They need AAU schools in growing states and you are close by. But hey, I'm sure they hit the motherload in L.A.
It is why if you can't work your issues out I suggested the easiest solution would be a merger, but not with PAC schools, but with the SEC. And if unequal revenue distribution is adopted it can be done without subtracting from any party and merely at the expense of adding revenue for the 3 to 6 schools which might actually have options. It's cheaper as a solution, especially when it can be partially covered by the sharing of overhead and the elimination of duplicated systems, and it keeps everyone together, and keeps the Big 10 and FOX out of the South.
