(06-24-2023 05:58 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

This administration would gladly support bringing down our Nation if they thought it would give them power for go. Even if it meant continuing to be subservient to the Chinese like its been since 2020, sadly this administration would do it.

The ineptitude of our president and his staff has to be on purpose. That’s the only way to explain wants going on in DC

Amazing that very few know this.

There continues to be no good guys in this scenario either in Russia, Ukraine or Washington.

Nothing but corrupt evil people at all points an corners of this.

Meanwhile millions and millions of innocent people caught in the middle.

(06-24-2023 05:51 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking. .

You realize the warheads are useless without the codes right? I assume you're well versed in Russia's doctorine for using nukes? There's a process that prevents a singular individual from being able to both order & execute a nuclear strike. Several individuals have to confirm & pass along the required information that only they possess in order to execute the next phase. No one that can is going to use nukes in russia against russia and a 3rd party obtaining the nukes is useless without all of the required codes & exact knowlegdge of required procedure. Again this takes a chain of events and a short list of individuals to execute. Please stopping posting about **** you have no understanding. Fear mongering.

How do you know?
Putin is a madman. He’s already threatened to use nukes in Ukraine.

This was 2 days ago.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-nuc...-1.6885338

Putin is a tyrant. Those leading the coup in Russia are mercenaries. They have no allegiance to anyone.

I’m glad you’re so sure a dictator losing power wouldn’t use nukes on his own people to hold on to power.

(06-24-2023 06:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There continues to be no good guys in this scenario either in Russia, Ukraine or Washington.

Nothing but corrupt evil people at all points an corners of this.

Meanwhile millions and millions of innocent people caught in the middle.

And billions of our dollars go out the door.

At least the low iq, latest thing, slavi tards are distracted.

(06-24-2023 06:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There continues to be no good guys in this scenario either in Russia, Ukraine or Washington.

Nothing but corrupt evil people at all points an corners of this.

Meanwhile millions and millions of innocent people caught in the middle.

Evil spreads like bacteria and is as lethal as metastasizing cancer. It destroys the soul and leaves the raging animal. Society is rabid with it now. I've never seen so much stupid and vile frothing at the mouth at anything good. This is what happens when the body is not disciplined and the mind is filled with lies.

(06-24-2023 06:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There continues to be no good guys in this scenario either in Russia, Ukraine or Washington.

Nothing but corrupt evil people at all points an corners of this.

Meanwhile millions and millions of innocent people caught in the middle.

Exactly…

There was a time we could depend on steady leadership in DC. Americans could trust our leaders, regardless of party, had our Nation’s best interests in mind. Those days ended in January 2020.

Americans would be better off now with any President the last 40 years than the one currently occupying the White House. He’s mentally compromised and a puppet for the bad actors of his staff. (What am I signing?)

Furthermore the reports about our military leaders being more concerned with the use of proper pronouns than killing the enemy are less than comforting.

America is in a bad spot.

Depending on a criminal in Ukraine, a tyrant in Russia and a ruthless mercenary to make the right decisions because we can’t depend on our Nation’s inept leaders is a scary place for average Americans to be

(06-24-2023 06:24 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 06:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There continues to be no good guys in this scenario either in Russia, Ukraine or Washington.

Nothing but corrupt evil people at all points an corners of this.

Meanwhile millions and millions of innocent people caught in the middle.

Exactly…

There was a time we could depend on steady leadership in DC. Americans could trust our leaders, regardless of party, had our Nation’s best interests in mind. Those days ended in January 2020.

Americans would be better off now with any President the last 40 years than the one currently occupying the White House. He’s mentally compromised and a puppet for the bad actors of his staff. (What am I signing?)

Furthermore the reports about our military leaders being more concerned with the use of proper pronouns than killing the enemy are less than comforting.

America is in a bad spot.

Depending on a criminal in Ukraine, a tyrant in Russia and a ruthless mercenary to make the right decisions because we can’t depend on our Nation’s inept leaders is a scary place for average Americans to be

Jim those days ended when PAC money was legalized. 2020 was when the corporations became so brazen as to tell the American people they no longer had a voice! Just like the stalling of Brexit where they told the people of England they weren't going to listen to their voices either.

(06-24-2023 06:24 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 06:05 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  There continues to be no good guys in this scenario either in Russia, Ukraine or Washington.

Nothing but corrupt evil people at all points an corners of this.

Meanwhile millions and millions of innocent people caught in the middle.

Exactly…

There was a time we could depend on steady leadership in DC. Americans could trust our leaders, regardless of party, had our Nation’s best interests in mind. Those days ended in January 2020.

Americans would be better off now with any President the last 40 years than the one currently occupying the White House. He’s mentally compromised and a puppet for the bad actors of his staff. (What am I signing?)

Furthermore the reports about our military leaders being more concerned with the use of proper pronouns than killing the enemy are less than comforting.

America is in a bad spot.

Depending on a criminal in Ukraine, a tyrant in Russia and a ruthless mercenary to make the right decisions because we can’t depend on our Nation’s inept leaders is a scary place for average Americans to be

You guys are on this morning

(06-24-2023 05:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:52 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking.

Instead we’re stuck with a dimwit in the White House, conniving Pelosi, Schumer and Schiff along the spineless gutless McCarthy, McConnell, Graham in Congress. What a bunch of impotent elites we have in power.

I almost wish it was American soldiers marching towards DC to clean house.

By the time this is over China will be in Taiwan, Cuba and Canada, Russia and its nuclear arsenal will be in turmoil while our Commander in Chief concerns himself with problems like what ice cream to select with his tapioca.

Things were bad before this, they’ll get even worse now.

And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

Careful. The brain trust here that like seeing Russia run red with blood will call you a Putin lover.

We need to quit fueling that fire

Ha! I'm no Putin lover, but I sure as hell am a fan of letting a fascist thug and pretend commie dictator choke the life out of each other. That's what is in the best interest of a free Europe and for the poor people of all former Soviet States. Piss on backing Thug A or Thug B! That crap didn't work in Central America, South America, Africa, or Asia. Keep your money in your pocket, keep your distance, you don't want ring side seats, and watch this on Pay per View.

(06-24-2023 06:08 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:51 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking. .

You realize the warheads are useless without the codes right? I assume you're well versed in Russia's doctorine for using nukes? There's a process that prevents a singular individual from being able to both order & execute a nuclear strike. Several individuals have to confirm & pass along the required information that only they possess in order to execute the next phase. No one that can is going to use nukes in russia against russia and a 3rd party obtaining the nukes is useless without all of the required codes & exact knowlegdge of required procedure. Again this takes a chain of events and a short list of individuals to execute. Please stopping posting about **** you have no understanding. Fear mongering.

How do you know?
Putin is a madman. He’s already threatened to use nukes in Ukraine.

This was 2 days ago.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-nuc...-1.6885338

Putin is a tyrant. Those leading the coup in Russia are mercenaries. They have no allegiance to anyone.

I’m glad you’re so sure a dictator losing power wouldn’t use nukes on his own people to hold on to power.

Putin has threatened Nukes many times. It's fear mongering. Pay no attention. But if you're unable to sleep over fear of being nuked, do yourself a favor & read up on russia's nuclear doctrine & process. While you're at it, research why using Nukes aren't a real option for Putin in Ukraine or against his own people.

(06-24-2023 06:50 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:52 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  And the fruitcakes here will want to send billions more

Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

Careful. The brain trust here that like seeing Russia run red with blood will call you a Putin lover.

We need to quit fueling that fire

Ha! I'm no Putin lover, but I sure as hell am a fan of letting a fascist thug and pretend commie dictator choke the life out of each other. That's what is in the best interest of a free Europe and for the poor people of all former Soviet States. Piss on backing Thug A or Thug B! That crap didn't work in Central America, South America, Africa, or Asia. Keep your money in your pocket, keep your distance, you don't want ring side seats, and watch this on Pay per View.

(06-24-2023 06:08 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:51 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-23-2023 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Well, we should all be mindful that when a monolithic nuclear power splinters into pieces that it's a heads-up moment for the rest of the world. And right now is the worst possible time to have a power-hungry dictator in China and an imbecile in the White House. Let's hope luck is on our side, because with the current policies of this country God sure isn't!

Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking. .

You realize the warheads are useless without the codes right? I assume you're well versed in Russia's doctorine for using nukes? There's a process that prevents a singular individual from being able to both order & execute a nuclear strike. Several individuals have to confirm & pass along the required information that only they possess in order to execute the next phase. No one that can is going to use nukes in russia against russia and a 3rd party obtaining the nukes is useless without all of the required codes & exact knowlegdge of required procedure. Again this takes a chain of events and a short list of individuals to execute. Please stopping posting about **** you have no understanding. Fear mongering.

How do you know?
Putin is a madman. He’s already threatened to use nukes in Ukraine.

This was 2 days ago.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-nuc...-1.6885338

Putin is a tyrant. Those leading the coup in Russia are mercenaries. They have no allegiance to anyone.

I’m glad you’re so sure a dictator losing power wouldn’t use nukes on his own people to hold on to power.

Putin has threatened Nukes many times. It's fear mongering. Pay no attention. But if you're unable to sleep over fear of being nuked, do yourself a favor & read up on russia's nuclear doctrine & process. While you're at it, research why using Nukes aren't a real option for Putin in Ukraine or against his own people.

I've lived a long time. Have known many so called important people. They are all human and have flaws. If I've learned one thing in that time it's that nothing is certain, unthinkable and sometimes inconceivable things happen.

I grew up with Duck and Cover. I'm not afraid of nuclear weapons, don't lose sleep over them, had a father who flew with them, and a neighbor who piloted his B52 over the pole during Chrome Dome.

They've been a fact of my life. But we haven't had a situation wherein a major nuclear power was possibly facing internal disintegration. Putin has claimed to have built an automated launch system predicated upon the detonation of a nuke on Russian soil. I do hope that's just a bluff. Are you willing to bet your life it's not? My life? Well have much more in the rearview mirror than I do in the windshield. It's my children and grandchildren I'm concerned about

I know about the code systems, knew the guy who designed the targeting system in the mountain for NORAD. Absolutely it isn't easy. But there are nukes on artillery shells. I'm sure in cruise missiles. And I hope they have neutron warheads. At least the contamination to the rest of the world dissipates within a few days wind drift. But I also know that people screw up, bad guys are resilient, and that anything can happen.

The issue here is that the recipe for disaster is in place. I'm sure the German people never thought the Fuhrer would order women, elderly, and children to fight a lost war, but he did. Until you know with certainty that Putin is saner than Biden, I will remain wary. The world shouldn't have to consider it, but neither should it have ever allowed it. When people are weary of fighting, or haven't witnessed and felt it, they will seldom summon the courage to act. We are soft and decadent. We do have a halfwit as POTUS, and Europe is bereft of those who know what war is about. Our world has never been more ready for a cataclysmic accident than it is right now.

Vigilance is what is needed, not assurances. I am reminded if you look at assurance as a contraction it might well mean "ass are your chances." Have at it sport! Hubris and mass destruction are a volatile mix.

(06-24-2023 07:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 06:50 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:52 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:47 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Since Yeltsin the smart play was to isolate away from all former Soviet States and let nature take its course. Keeping the U.S. and Western Europe out of it was essential. That way there is no way to be scapegoated.

Instead, the filthy Bidens have up to their keisters in backroom deals with the Ukraine. We need distance, not partners in crime. When this thing blows we don't need any culpability and yet here we are. Complete Eff up on diplomatic responsibility to the security and interests of the United States and our fellow NATO nations.

Elections have consequences and the last one could cost us dearly, or completely depending upon how things now unfold.

In the back of my mind are the 10,000 single Chinese male insurgents which were caught at the border. How many are here, and how much of the infrastructure issues have been sabotage done as practice for the main event?

Careful. The brain trust here that like seeing Russia run red with blood will call you a Putin lover.

We need to quit fueling that fire

Ha! I'm no Putin lover, but I sure as hell am a fan of letting a fascist thug and pretend commie dictator choke the life out of each other. That's what is in the best interest of a free Europe and for the poor people of all former Soviet States. Piss on backing Thug A or Thug B! That crap didn't work in Central America, South America, Africa, or Asia. Keep your money in your pocket, keep your distance, you don't want ring side seats, and watch this on Pay per View.

(06-24-2023 06:08 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:51 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:36 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Preach it Brother

We got bigger fish to fry now than the idiots of the DC Uniparty. Who has control of the over 4500 nuclear weapons Russia has? That’s a question that a real leader would be asking. .

You realize the warheads are useless without the codes right? I assume you're well versed in Russia's doctorine for using nukes? There's a process that prevents a singular individual from being able to both order & execute a nuclear strike. Several individuals have to confirm & pass along the required information that only they possess in order to execute the next phase. No one that can is going to use nukes in russia against russia and a 3rd party obtaining the nukes is useless without all of the required codes & exact knowlegdge of required procedure. Again this takes a chain of events and a short list of individuals to execute. Please stopping posting about **** you have no understanding. Fear mongering.

How do you know?
Putin is a madman. He’s already threatened to use nukes in Ukraine.

This was 2 days ago.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-nuc...-1.6885338

Putin is a tyrant. Those leading the coup in Russia are mercenaries. They have no allegiance to anyone.

I’m glad you’re so sure a dictator losing power wouldn’t use nukes on his own people to hold on to power.

Putin has threatened Nukes many times. It's fear mongering. Pay no attention. But if you're unable to sleep over fear of being nuked, do yourself a favor & read up on russia's nuclear doctrine & process. While you're at it, research why using Nukes aren't a real option for Putin in Ukraine or against his own people.

I've lived a long time. Have known many so called important people. They are all human and have flaws. If I've learned one thing in that time it's that nothing is certain, unthinkable and sometimes inconceivable things happen.

I grew up with Duck and Cover. I'm not afraid of nuclear weapons, don't lose sleep over them, had a father who flew with them, and a neighbor who piloted his B52 over the pole during Chrome Dome.

They've been a fact of my life. But we haven't had a situation wherein a major nuclear power was possibly facing internal disintegration. Putin has claimed to have built an automated launch system predicated upon the detonation of a nuke on Russian soil. I do hope that's just a bluff. Are you willing to bet your life it's not? My life? Well have much more in the rearview mirror than I do in the windshield. It's my children and grandchildren I'm concerned about

I know about the code systems, knew the guy who designed the targeting system in the mountain for NORAD. Absolutely it isn't easy. But there are nukes on artillery shells. I'm sure in cruise missiles. And I hope they have neutron warheads. At least the contamination to the rest of the world dissipates within a few days wind drift. But I also know that people screw up, bad guys are resilient, and that anything can happen.

The issue here is that the recipe for disaster is in place. I'm sure the German people never thought the Fuhrer would order women, elderly, and children to fight a lost war, but he did. Until you know with certainty that Putin is saner than Biden, I will remain wary. The world shouldn't have to consider it, but neither should it have ever allowed it. When people are weary of fighting, or haven't witnessed and felt it, they will seldom summon the courage to act. We are soft and decadent. We do have a halfwit as POTUS, and Europe is bereft of those who know what war is about. Our world has never been more ready for a cataclysmic accident than it is right now.

Vigilance is what is needed, not assurances. I am reminded if you look at assurance as a contraction it might well mean "ass are your chances." Have at it sport! Hubris and mass destruction are a volatile mix.

Are there still neutron bombs. I thought the filth pitched a fit over them because they were in inhumane in that they only killed people.

And

For all the blustering about nukes, if russia used a small tactical nuke i doubt we would do a damn thing other than a stongly, i mean strongly, worded condemnation

Lots of misdirection from Putin.

Twitter Space has been covering this since late last night and is still going



https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1vAGRAwNvzXKl

The last Russian civil war created one of the most evil empires this planet has seen since AD.

Agree with those that know this is not the time. Could end quickly or turn into complete chaos.

Have a feeling it ends quickly but if not does the CCP turn on Putin for their oil and general power hungry wants if it gets out of hand?

(06-24-2023 07:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Lots of misdirection from Putin.

I dont believe anything honestly. Give it a few days and we might find out how much of this is bullshite

Weve been lied to so much. Putin has cancer, putij is insane, the russian army is quitting, zelensky is a hero.

The day before i read that the ruskies had changed the role of assault helicopters and were kicking the shite out of ukraine. A day later there is a coup.

Propaganda is rampant.

(06-24-2023 07:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Are there still neutron bombs. I thought the filth pitched a fit over them because they were in inhumane in that they only killed people.

And

For all the blustering about nukes, if russia used a small tactical nuke i doubt we would do a damn thing other than a stongly, i mean strongly, worded condemnation

Neutron would most certainly be the weapon of choice in this situation. A suitcase nuke would targeted damage would be Putin’s play.

I doubt we have anyone with the intestinal fortitude in the Uniparty and certainly no one in this administration that would speak out against Putin using a nuke on his own people.

Any response from our White House would have to be okayed by Beijing.

I doubt our president’s handlers in the CCP would allow us to interfere since they’ve started playing nice with Moscow.

(06-24-2023 07:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:31 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 06:50 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:57 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:52 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Careful. The brain trust here that like seeing Russia run red with blood will call you a Putin lover.

We need to quit fueling that fire

Ha! I'm no Putin lover, but I sure as hell am a fan of letting a fascist thug and pretend commie dictator choke the life out of each other. That's what is in the best interest of a free Europe and for the poor people of all former Soviet States. Piss on backing Thug A or Thug B! That crap didn't work in Central America, South America, Africa, or Asia. Keep your money in your pocket, keep your distance, you don't want ring side seats, and watch this on Pay per View.

(06-24-2023 06:08 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:51 AM)indianashocker Wrote:  You realize the warheads are useless without the codes right? I assume you're well versed in Russia's doctorine for using nukes? There's a process that prevents a singular individual from being able to both order & execute a nuclear strike. Several individuals have to confirm & pass along the required information that only they possess in order to execute the next phase. No one that can is going to use nukes in russia against russia and a 3rd party obtaining the nukes is useless without all of the required codes & exact knowlegdge of required procedure. Again this takes a chain of events and a short list of individuals to execute. Please stopping posting about **** you have no understanding. Fear mongering.

How do you know?
Putin is a madman. He’s already threatened to use nukes in Ukraine.

This was 2 days ago.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-nuc...-1.6885338

Putin is a tyrant. Those leading the coup in Russia are mercenaries. They have no allegiance to anyone.

I’m glad you’re so sure a dictator losing power wouldn’t use nukes on his own people to hold on to power.

Putin has threatened Nukes many times. It's fear mongering. Pay no attention. But if you're unable to sleep over fear of being nuked, do yourself a favor & read up on russia's nuclear doctrine & process. While you're at it, research why using Nukes aren't a real option for Putin in Ukraine or against his own people.

I've lived a long time. Have known many so called important people. They are all human and have flaws. If I've learned one thing in that time it's that nothing is certain, unthinkable and sometimes inconceivable things happen.

I grew up with Duck and Cover. I'm not afraid of nuclear weapons, don't lose sleep over them, had a father who flew with them, and a neighbor who piloted his B52 over the pole during Chrome Dome.

They've been a fact of my life. But we haven't had a situation wherein a major nuclear power was possibly facing internal disintegration. Putin has claimed to have built an automated launch system predicated upon the detonation of a nuke on Russian soil. I do hope that's just a bluff. Are you willing to bet your life it's not? My life? Well have much more in the rearview mirror than I do in the windshield. It's my children and grandchildren I'm concerned about

I know about the code systems, knew the guy who designed the targeting system in the mountain for NORAD. Absolutely it isn't easy. But there are nukes on artillery shells. I'm sure in cruise missiles. And I hope they have neutron warheads. At least the contamination to the rest of the world dissipates within a few days wind drift. But I also know that people screw up, bad guys are resilient, and that anything can happen.

The issue here is that the recipe for disaster is in place. I'm sure the German people never thought the Fuhrer would order women, elderly, and children to fight a lost war, but he did. Until you know with certainty that Putin is saner than Biden, I will remain wary. The world shouldn't have to consider it, but neither should it have ever allowed it. When people are weary of fighting, or haven't witnessed and felt it, they will seldom summon the courage to act. We are soft and decadent. We do have a halfwit as POTUS, and Europe is bereft of those who know what war is about. Our world has never been more ready for a cataclysmic accident than it is right now.

Vigilance is what is needed, not assurances. I am reminded if you look at assurance as a contraction it might well mean "ass are your chances." Have at it sport! Hubris and mass destruction are a volatile mix.

Are there still neutron bombs. I thought the filth pitched a fit over then because they were inhumane in that they only killed people.

And

For all the blustering about nukes, if russia used a small tactical nuke i doubt we would do a damn thing other than a stongly, i mean strongly, worded condemnation

Tactical nukes are designed to be low yield radiation weapons. I don't know if neutron warheads were eliminated or not. A lot of things have been claimed to be eliminated which weren't. I knew the Soviets had low yield nukes because MIGs were designed in 70's and early 80's which had miniaturized vacuum tubes in them. We laughed at how backwards they were until it was pointed out to us that transistors and circuit boards don't work in low yield radiation fields and vacuum tubes do. The point was the Soviets were designing weapons systems with the premise that tactical nukes would be deployed and used.

I just am not convinced that something major could be averted if one of those strayed and hit within a NATO country. I have a grandson over there now who will man the response if one happened to stray.

I tell you why I take it a bit more seriously. Back in the day I knew the man the Pentagon employed to project fallout drift for the United States in event of nuclear war. He was given what we believed to be the targeted areas for both air blasts and ground blasts and the megaton expected for each. Brownsville, Texas was the only spot likely to survive. It scared the poor professor so much that he bought a mobile home and buried it inside concrete floors and walls 20 ft down with air scrubbers and a septic system which would work for the depth. And he kept it stocked. He had bicycle generators, back up generators and standard power. I think he may have watched "On the Beach" one too many times as well. Prior to the work he was a happy go lucky joke with you meteorologist with a second doctorate in geology. After that? Well, that's the part that got my attention.

(06-24-2023 07:48 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 07:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Lots of misdirection from Putin.

I dont believe anything honestly. Give it a few days and we might find out how much of this is bullshite

Weve been lied to so much. Putin has cancer, putij is insane, the russian army is quitting, zelensky is a hero.

The day before i read that the ruskies had changed the role of assault helicopters and were kicking the shite out of ukraine. A day later there is a coup.

Propaganda is rampant.

Agreed. Was thinking that as I was typing. Imma let it play out a few days/weeks before making an actual assessment for my opinion.

Initial info of this war has been wrong so far the vast majority of the time.