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Big12 Unanimously Votes to Add Colorado
(07-28-2023 07:54 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  
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(07-28-2023 12:45 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
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(07-27-2023 05:19 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  PAC will take SMU and Tulane from AAC. SDSU and one other prolly Boise from MWC.

AAC will probably just stay at 12.

For Memphis whatever the absolute worst outcome is - that is what will happen.

Not so sure about Tulane. I like them, but their football stadium is REALLY small.

Lol so? With our market and our academics who cares about a stadium size? We could easily expand whenever we feel like it. Tulane is literally at the top of every conference wish list and we are talking about stadium size. We can even use the super dome for big games if need be. Tulane vs Stanford would probably sell out the dome for PAC if it were a conference game. Tulane has a bright future ahead.
LMAO. Talk about delusions of grandeur. Tulane has one great season in the past 25 years and now they’re about to sell out the 83,000 seat super dome.

You just can’t make this stuff up.


Maybe not, but apparently you CAN make stuff up about the football capacity of the Superdrome.

It was increased to 73 thousand in 2007.


Standing room only. Tulane is getting real popular.
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ioner-says

I don't see the ACC expanding. Anyone they could pick up that would add to their brand wouldn't go and anyone who would go they probably don't want.
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(07-28-2023 08:43 AM)Vonz90 Wrote:  https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ioner-says

I don't see the ACC expanding. Anyone they could pick up that would add to their brand wouldn't go and anyone who would go they probably don't want.

I also believe adding members opens their "ironclad" GoR, which would allow schools like Clemson and FSU to bolt for greener pastures.
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RE: Big12 Unanimously Votes to Add Colorado
(07-28-2023 05:07 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 12:45 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 08:49 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:19 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  PAC will take SMU and Tulane from AAC. SDSU and one other prolly Boise from MWC.

AAC will probably just stay at 12.

For Memphis whatever the absolute worst outcome is - that is what will happen.

Not so sure about Tulane. I like them, but their football stadium is REALLY small.

Lol so? With our market and our academics who cares about a stadium size? We could easily expand whenever we feel like it. Tulane is literally at the top of every conference wish list and we are talking about stadium size. We can even use the super dome for big games if need be. Tulane vs Stanford would probably sell out the dome for PAC if it were a conference game. Tulane has a bright future ahead.
LMAO. Talk about delusions of grandeur. Tulane has one great season in the past 25 years and now they’re about to sell out the 83,000 seat super dome.

You just can’t make this stuff up.

Yeah I'm far from sold on Tulane. They finally had a great season, but they're perennial losers in football. Don't get me wrong, I like Tulane, but they likely regress back to the mean before too long. I hope they win big now, because Fritz will have a major rebuild on his hands after this season. That's never easily done at small, private institutions.
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The ACC comes into play once the GOR only has a few years remaining. Probably around 2030 you see B1G and SEC take 1-2 ACC teams each.
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(07-28-2023 05:07 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 12:45 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 08:49 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:19 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  PAC will take SMU and Tulane from AAC. SDSU and one other prolly Boise from MWC.

AAC will probably just stay at 12.

For Memphis whatever the absolute worst outcome is - that is what will happen.

Not so sure about Tulane. I like them, but their football stadium is REALLY small.

Lol so? With our market and our academics who cares about a stadium size? We could easily expand whenever we feel like it. Tulane is literally at the top of every conference wish list and we are talking about stadium size. We can even use the super dome for big games if need be. Tulane vs Stanford would probably sell out the dome for PAC if it were a conference game. Tulane has a bright future ahead.
LMAO. Talk about delusions of grandeur. Tulane has one great season in the past 25 years and now they’re about to sell out the 83,000 seat super dome.

You just can’t make this stuff up.

Market? Yes
Academics? Yes
Cotton Bowl Trophy? Why yes, thank you for asking.
Not giving a rip what some no name program thinks about us? You betcha
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RE: Big12 Unanimously Votes to Add Colorado
(07-27-2023 08:55 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:21 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  if the pac 12 holds strong... someone from here is getting an invite


[Image: chance-so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.gif]

I can promise you that the Big12 will easily find three more PAC schools to join with Colorado. They don't even have to look. Yormack's phone has been ringing off the hook for the last 24 hours. He'll get to chose between six schools.

I think the PAC takes SDSU, SMU, UNLV, and Colorado State to get back to 10.

AAC grabs Army, Air Force, and Boise State.

SMU contracts Buyer's Remorse for being trapped in a Western conference with no meaningful linear tv exposure.

The MWC new buyout I think ends any chance of an AAC raid (and those chances probably died when CSU/AFA said no anyway) They aren't paying 17 million to come to the AAC, same as no AAC school was ever going to be willing to pay 10+ million to move there. What's actually going to be interesting is who's willing to pay the buyouts to go to the PAC right now? This isn't the same as when most of us left C-USA in the early 10's for the Big East/AAC who had no TV deal, the C-USA exit fees and TV deal were a complete joke and obviously worth ditching even if the future number was uncertain. For the MWC schools especially if the PAC needed them to pay the 30+ million early exit number to join for 24 that's a massive financial commitment, and if they need them for that it's because the PAC loses a few more schools and would be at 8 or less for 24. To pay that much I think you'd need to have reasonable assurances the deal you were signing up for was at least close to 20 million per team, and I don't think in today's market a league some PAC/MWC/AAC hybrid combo would get that. I think that league actually gets a deal more like 12 million a year. I think the current 9 members if they could swallow their pride could still get a majority streaming deal that would pay them in the low to mid 20 million range, but they wouldn't sign that deal. I've never bought into the whole "a conference could implode" thing, but this is the first time I can actually plausibly see the path there. I think the rest of the 4 corners are going to be scared enough to join the B12 at this point, and then I just don't see UW/Oregon/Cal/Stanford having the stomach to add who they'd have to add and they either work out some kind of deal to join the ACC or take half or even 1/3 shares to convince the B1G to take a full western division.
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RE: Big12 Unanimously Votes to Add Colorado
(07-28-2023 09:14 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 08:55 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:21 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  if the pac 12 holds strong... someone from here is getting an invite


[Image: chance-so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.gif]

I can promise you that the Big12 will easily find three more PAC schools to join with Colorado. They don't even have to look. Yormack's phone has been ringing off the hook for the last 24 hours. He'll get to chose between six schools.

I think the PAC takes SDSU, SMU, UNLV, and Colorado State to get back to 10.

AAC grabs Army, Air Force, and Boise State.

SMU contracts Buyer's Remorse for being trapped in a Western conference with no meaningful linear tv exposure.

The MWC new buyout I think ends any chance of an AAC raid (and those chances probably died when CSU/AFA said no anyway) They aren't paying 17 million to come to the AAC, same as no AAC school was ever going to be willing to pay 10+ million to move there. What's actually going to be interesting is who's willing to pay the buyouts to go to the PAC right now? This isn't the same as when most of us left C-USA in the early 10's for the Big East/AAC who had no TV deal, the C-USA exit fees and TV deal were a complete joke and obviously worth ditching even if the future number was uncertain. For the MWC schools especially if the PAC needed them to pay the 30+ million early exit number to join for 24 that's a massive financial commitment, and if they need them for that it's because the PAC loses a few more schools and would be at 8 or less for 24. To pay that much I think you'd need to have reasonable assurances the deal you were signing up for was at least close to 20 million per team, and I don't think in today's market a league some PAC/MWC/AAC hybrid combo would get that. I think that league actually gets a deal more like 12 million a year. I think the current 9 members if they could swallow their pride could still get a majority streaming deal that would pay them in the low to mid 20 million range, but they wouldn't sign that deal. I've never bought into the whole "a conference could implode" thing, but this is the first time I can actually plausibly see the path there. I think the rest of the 4 corners are going to be scared enough to join the B12 at this point, and then I just don't see UW/Oregon/Cal/Stanford having the stomach to add who they'd have to add and they either work out some kind of deal to join the ACC or take half or even 1/3 shares to convince the B1G to take a full western division.

Exit fees can be challenged in court and negotiated down. Just look at how Houston, Cincy, & UCF paid less to leave the AAC. Or how the SB3 got out of C-USA early. Plus, the AAC could also waive some or all of their entrance fees to help offset the cost of their MWC exit fees. If the AAC really wants them to join, I think there are ways to make it happen.
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Big12 Unanimously Votes to Add Colorado
(07-28-2023 09:12 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 05:07 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 12:45 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 08:49 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:19 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  PAC will take SMU and Tulane from AAC. SDSU and one other prolly Boise from MWC.

AAC will probably just stay at 12.

For Memphis whatever the absolute worst outcome is - that is what will happen.

Not so sure about Tulane. I like them, but their football stadium is REALLY small.

Lol so? With our market and our academics who cares about a stadium size? We could easily expand whenever we feel like it. Tulane is literally at the top of every conference wish list and we are talking about stadium size. We can even use the super dome for big games if need be. Tulane vs Stanford would probably sell out the dome for PAC if it were a conference game. Tulane has a bright future ahead.
LMAO. Talk about delusions of grandeur. Tulane has one great season in the past 25 years and now they’re about to sell out the 83,000 seat super dome.

You just can’t make this stuff up.

Market? Yes
Academics? Yes
Cotton Bowl Trophy? Why yes, thank you for asking.
Not giving a rip what some no name program thinks about us? You betcha


That is putting Tulane football in the most positive light possible. I’m not saying they can’t or won’t move up, but you guys historically haven’t had the most successful program. Heck, your current coach still doesn’t have a winning record even after winning 12 games last season.

I can’t necessarily argue with you about market b/c then you’ll just quote something about how many TVs are in metro New Orleans area. However, you know most people down there don’t care about Tulane football.
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(07-28-2023 09:20 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 09:14 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 08:55 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:21 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  if the pac 12 holds strong... someone from here is getting an invite


[Image: chance-so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.gif]

I can promise you that the Big12 will easily find three more PAC schools to join with Colorado. They don't even have to look. Yormack's phone has been ringing off the hook for the last 24 hours. He'll get to chose between six schools.

I think the PAC takes SDSU, SMU, UNLV, and Colorado State to get back to 10.

AAC grabs Army, Air Force, and Boise State.

SMU contracts Buyer's Remorse for being trapped in a Western conference with no meaningful linear tv exposure.

The MWC new buyout I think ends any chance of an AAC raid (and those chances probably died when CSU/AFA said no anyway) They aren't paying 17 million to come to the AAC, same as no AAC school was ever going to be willing to pay 10+ million to move there. What's actually going to be interesting is who's willing to pay the buyouts to go to the PAC right now? This isn't the same as when most of us left C-USA in the early 10's for the Big East/AAC who had no TV deal, the C-USA exit fees and TV deal were a complete joke and obviously worth ditching even if the future number was uncertain. For the MWC schools especially if the PAC needed them to pay the 30+ million early exit number to join for 24 that's a massive financial commitment, and if they need them for that it's because the PAC loses a few more schools and would be at 8 or less for 24. To pay that much I think you'd need to have reasonable assurances the deal you were signing up for was at least close to 20 million per team, and I don't think in today's market a league some PAC/MWC/AAC hybrid combo would get that. I think that league actually gets a deal more like 12 million a year. I think the current 9 members if they could swallow their pride could still get a majority streaming deal that would pay them in the low to mid 20 million range, but they wouldn't sign that deal. I've never bought into the whole "a conference could implode" thing, but this is the first time I can actually plausibly see the path there. I think the rest of the 4 corners are going to be scared enough to join the B12 at this point, and then I just don't see UW/Oregon/Cal/Stanford having the stomach to add who they'd have to add and they either work out some kind of deal to join the ACC or take half or even 1/3 shares to convince the B1G to take a full western division.

Exit fees can be challenged in court and negotiated down. Just look at how Houston, Cincy, & UCF paid less to leave the AAC. Or how the SB3 got out of C-USA early. Plus, the AAC could also waive some or all of their entrance fees to help offset the cost of their MWC exit fees. If the AAC really wants them to join, I think there are ways to make it happen.

One also has to consider that ESPN would likely be interested in such a move, and therefore willing to facilitate financially, since the MWC schools are not ESPN properties. For starters, any MWC program would likely get a full media share in the AAC from day one.
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What is not being reported is that after the vote to add Colorado, a second vote was taken, authorizing Yornack to invite ANY program he thought appropriate... except Memphis.*












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(07-27-2023 08:55 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:21 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  if the pac 12 holds strong... someone from here is getting an invite


[Image: chance-so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.gif]

I can promise you that the Big12 will easily find three more PAC schools to join with Colorado. They don't even have to look. Yormack's phone has been ringing off the hook for the last 24 hours. He'll get to chose between six schools.

I think the PAC takes SDSU, SMU, UNLV, and Colorado State to get back to 10.

AAC grabs Army, Air Force, and Boise State.

SMU contracts Buyer's Remorse for being trapped in a Western conference with no meaningful linear tv exposure.

I don't understand the AAC suggested adds. Not because those aren't good options, but because both Boise and Air Force declined the AAC invite when the league was much stronger than it is today. So, why would Boise do it now when they said no before? Even without SDSU and UNLV in the MWC (if that's the way it went) Boise wouldn't likely see the attractiveness of the current configuration of the AAC. And add into it the exit fees as someone already suggested and this option is virtually nil. I'm not sure how AFA would feel about being in the same league as Army and Navy. That would be interesting.
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(07-28-2023 09:12 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 05:07 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 12:45 AM)Thewavefan Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 08:49 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:19 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  PAC will take SMU and Tulane from AAC. SDSU and one other prolly Boise from MWC.

AAC will probably just stay at 12.

For Memphis whatever the absolute worst outcome is - that is what will happen.

Not so sure about Tulane. I like them, but their football stadium is REALLY small.

Lol so? With our market and our academics who cares about a stadium size? We could easily expand whenever we feel like it. Tulane is literally at the top of every conference wish list and we are talking about stadium size. We can even use the super dome for big games if need be. Tulane vs Stanford would probably sell out the dome for PAC if it were a conference game. Tulane has a bright future ahead.
LMAO. Talk about delusions of grandeur. Tulane has one great season in the past 25 years and now they’re about to sell out the 83,000 seat super dome.

You just can’t make this stuff up.

Market? Yes
Academics? Yes
Cotton Bowl Trophy? Why yes, thank you for asking.
Not giving a rip what some no name program thinks about us? You betcha

You guys had a terrific football season last year! Should be strong again this year. You also have a solid reputation for academics. Credit on both of those. Heck, my wife wanted to attend Tulane back in the day. She always loved your school. Been a while since I had that conversation with her and forgot why she ended up going to Houston (two Masters degrees from UH). You guys also have a gorgeous campus! So, much respect from me for all those things.

But in reference to calling Temple a no-name, you're 1-4 against them since you've been in the AAC together, and your football team has had 8 winning seasons in about the last 40 years. You're also 7-12 against Temple in men's basketball in the same time span.
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(07-28-2023 09:26 AM)TrackSuitAndTie Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 09:20 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 09:14 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 08:55 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:21 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  [Image: chance-so-youre-telling-me-theres-a-chance.gif]

I can promise you that the Big12 will easily find three more PAC schools to join with Colorado. They don't even have to look. Yormack's phone has been ringing off the hook for the last 24 hours. He'll get to chose between six schools.

I think the PAC takes SDSU, SMU, UNLV, and Colorado State to get back to 10.

AAC grabs Army, Air Force, and Boise State.

SMU contracts Buyer's Remorse for being trapped in a Western conference with no meaningful linear tv exposure.

The MWC new buyout I think ends any chance of an AAC raid (and those chances probably died when CSU/AFA said no anyway) They aren't paying 17 million to come to the AAC, same as no AAC school was ever going to be willing to pay 10+ million to move there. What's actually going to be interesting is who's willing to pay the buyouts to go to the PAC right now? This isn't the same as when most of us left C-USA in the early 10's for the Big East/AAC who had no TV deal, the C-USA exit fees and TV deal were a complete joke and obviously worth ditching even if the future number was uncertain. For the MWC schools especially if the PAC needed them to pay the 30+ million early exit number to join for 24 that's a massive financial commitment, and if they need them for that it's because the PAC loses a few more schools and would be at 8 or less for 24. To pay that much I think you'd need to have reasonable assurances the deal you were signing up for was at least close to 20 million per team, and I don't think in today's market a league some PAC/MWC/AAC hybrid combo would get that. I think that league actually gets a deal more like 12 million a year. I think the current 9 members if they could swallow their pride could still get a majority streaming deal that would pay them in the low to mid 20 million range, but they wouldn't sign that deal. I've never bought into the whole "a conference could implode" thing, but this is the first time I can actually plausibly see the path there. I think the rest of the 4 corners are going to be scared enough to join the B12 at this point, and then I just don't see UW/Oregon/Cal/Stanford having the stomach to add who they'd have to add and they either work out some kind of deal to join the ACC or take half or even 1/3 shares to convince the B1G to take a full western division.

Exit fees can be challenged in court and negotiated down. Just look at how Houston, Cincy, & UCF paid less to leave the AAC. Or how the SB3 got out of C-USA early. Plus, the AAC could also waive some or all of their entrance fees to help offset the cost of their MWC exit fees. If the AAC really wants them to join, I think there are ways to make it happen.

One also has to consider that ESPN would likely be interested in such a move, and therefore willing to facilitate financially, since the MWC schools are not ESPN properties. For starters, any MWC program would likely get a full media share in the AAC from day one.

Good point, and I kind of agree. ESPN would love to snatch some more late-night content for cheap. I could see the financial payouts being reworked to where the AAC comes out making more than they currently earn.
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clt laughs at the tulane folks talking about markets. you have 400k in your county and declining
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Thewavefan is clearly a satire account.
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(07-28-2023 10:11 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 09:26 AM)TrackSuitAndTie Wrote:  
(07-28-2023 09:20 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
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(07-27-2023 08:55 PM)Ourland Wrote:  I can promise you that the Big12 will easily find three more PAC schools to join with Colorado. They don't even have to look. Yormack's phone has been ringing off the hook for the last 24 hours. He'll get to chose between six schools.

I think the PAC takes SDSU, SMU, UNLV, and Colorado State to get back to 10.

AAC grabs Army, Air Force, and Boise State.

SMU contracts Buyer's Remorse for being trapped in a Western conference with no meaningful linear tv exposure.

The MWC new buyout I think ends any chance of an AAC raid (and those chances probably died when CSU/AFA said no anyway) They aren't paying 17 million to come to the AAC, same as no AAC school was ever going to be willing to pay 10+ million to move there. What's actually going to be interesting is who's willing to pay the buyouts to go to the PAC right now? This isn't the same as when most of us left C-USA in the early 10's for the Big East/AAC who had no TV deal, the C-USA exit fees and TV deal were a complete joke and obviously worth ditching even if the future number was uncertain. For the MWC schools especially if the PAC needed them to pay the 30+ million early exit number to join for 24 that's a massive financial commitment, and if they need them for that it's because the PAC loses a few more schools and would be at 8 or less for 24. To pay that much I think you'd need to have reasonable assurances the deal you were signing up for was at least close to 20 million per team, and I don't think in today's market a league some PAC/MWC/AAC hybrid combo would get that. I think that league actually gets a deal more like 12 million a year. I think the current 9 members if they could swallow their pride could still get a majority streaming deal that would pay them in the low to mid 20 million range, but they wouldn't sign that deal. I've never bought into the whole "a conference could implode" thing, but this is the first time I can actually plausibly see the path there. I think the rest of the 4 corners are going to be scared enough to join the B12 at this point, and then I just don't see UW/Oregon/Cal/Stanford having the stomach to add who they'd have to add and they either work out some kind of deal to join the ACC or take half or even 1/3 shares to convince the B1G to take a full western division.

Exit fees can be challenged in court and negotiated down. Just look at how Houston, Cincy, & UCF paid less to leave the AAC. Or how the SB3 got out of C-USA early. Plus, the AAC could also waive some or all of their entrance fees to help offset the cost of their MWC exit fees. If the AAC really wants them to join, I think there are ways to make it happen.

One also has to consider that ESPN would likely be interested in such a move, and therefore willing to facilitate financially, since the MWC schools are not ESPN properties. For starters, any MWC program would likely get a full media share in the AAC from day one.

Good point, and I kind of agree. ESPN would love to snatch some more late-night content for cheap. I could see the financial payouts being reworked to where the AAC comes out making more than they currently earn.

+1. ESPN would love to weaken the MWC in any way possible. They'd find the money to make it happen
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RE: Big12 Unanimously Votes to Add Colorado
Pac is panicking. Will speed up the adds when they loses another 1-3 schools on top of Colorado
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RE: Big12 Unanimously Votes to Add Colorado
(07-28-2023 09:14 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 08:55 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:21 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(07-27-2023 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  if the pac 12 holds strong... someone from here is getting an invite


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I can promise you that the Big12 will easily find three more PAC schools to join with Colorado. They don't even have to look. Yormack's phone has been ringing off the hook for the last 24 hours. He'll get to chose between six schools.

I think the PAC takes SDSU, SMU, UNLV, and Colorado State to get back to 10.

AAC grabs Army, Air Force, and Boise State.

SMU contracts Buyer's Remorse for being trapped in a Western conference with no meaningful linear tv exposure.

The MWC new buyout I think ends any chance of an AAC raid (and those chances probably died when CSU/AFA said no anyway) They aren't paying 17 million to come to the AAC, same as no AAC school was ever going to be willing to pay 10+ million to move there. What's actually going to be interesting is who's willing to pay the buyouts to go to the PAC right now? This isn't the same as when most of us left C-USA in the early 10's for the Big East/AAC who had no TV deal, the C-USA exit fees and TV deal were a complete joke and obviously worth ditching even if the future number was uncertain. For the MWC schools especially if the PAC needed them to pay the 30+ million early exit number to join for 24 that's a massive financial commitment, and if they need them for that it's because the PAC loses a few more schools and would be at 8 or less for 24. To pay that much I think you'd need to have reasonable assurances the deal you were signing up for was at least close to 20 million per team, and I don't think in today's market a league some PAC/MWC/AAC hybrid combo would get that. I think that league actually gets a deal more like 12 million a year. I think the current 9 members if they could swallow their pride could still get a majority streaming deal that would pay them in the low to mid 20 million range, but they wouldn't sign that deal. I've never bought into the whole "a conference could implode" thing, but this is the first time I can actually plausibly see the path there. I think the rest of the 4 corners are going to be scared enough to join the B12 at this point, and then I just don't see UW/Oregon/Cal/Stanford having the stomach to add who they'd have to add and they either work out some kind of deal to join the ACC or take half or even 1/3 shares to convince the B1G to take a full western division.
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You said...."The MWC new buyout I think ends any chance of an AAC raid (and those chances probably died when CSU/AFA said no anyway) They aren't paying 17 million to come to the AAC".
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I think now it is more than twice that after June 30th.
Makes me even think....how does SDSU get around that if a PAC 12 invite...or Boise or any MWC team. Am thinking they don't get around it and someone does some spending.
But, whew....to spend that much to go to the AAC is a giant leap of hopeless fate.
Should have gotten Boise and SDSU when they had the chance. They BOTH wanted to come.
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(07-28-2023 01:55 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  Pac is panicking. Will speed up the adds when they loses another 1-3 schools on top of Colorado

They have to panic. It costs nothing to get out. Their best schools will get $10 million less than the B12.
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