(09-04-2023 08:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:11 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 01:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  As someone who loves to participate in attendance smack when your numbers have 4 teams under 20k maybe don’t bring it up at all. Glass houses and stuff.

AAC had 6 under 25,000, careful cleaning up the broken glass.

Which is why I certainly will never brag about the AACs attendance, because it also sucks. If the AAC draws better than the Sun Belt next week I’m not gonna look that up and come here, because there will be plenty of AAC teams that have hot garbage attendance that deserve trashing.

It's not just the attendance, the TV viewership gap is very much closed. Right now the Mountain West has both of us beat.

Aside aside from Navy, Tulane and ECU, the rest of your conference isn't exactly burning the world down the TV/streaming viewership anymore these days. In fact, App State and Marshall average more viewership than the following AAC programs...

UTSA
Temple
South Florida
Tulsa
Memphis
FAU
Charlotte
UNT
Rice
UAB

https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach...eca4f6acbd

(09-04-2023 08:52 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 08:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:11 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 01:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  As someone who loves to participate in attendance smack when your numbers have 4 teams under 20k maybe don’t bring it up at all. Glass houses and stuff.

AAC had 6 under 25,000, careful cleaning up the broken glass.

Which is why I certainly will never brag about the AACs attendance, because it also sucks. If the AAC draws better than the Sun Belt next week I’m not gonna look that up and come here, because there will be plenty of AAC teams that have hot garbage attendance that deserve trashing.

It's not just the attendance, the TV viewership gap is very much closed. Right now the Mountain West has both of us beat.

Aside aside from Navy, Tulane and ECU, the rest of your conference isn't exactly burning the world down the TV/streaming viewership anymore these days. In fact, App State and Marshall average more viewership than the following AAC programs...

UTSA
Temple
South Florida
Tulsa
Memphis
FAU
Charlotte
UNT
Rice
UAB

https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach...eca4f6acbd

Four quick things for you to think about when you look at those 2022 numbers:
1. Of course the new six are low -- those are their viewer numbers on the CUSA contract. They will almost all improve, just like Marshall did from 2021 to 2022.
2. When these numbers are available for 2023, look at ALL of them. That's what the TV contracts are about, the whole inventory not just cherry picking your top two.
3. And while your presentation made the list of those below your top two seem long...that means there were four above your top two. Heck your top two are right at the median of the legacy AAC schools. Do you understand that isn't really a big W?
4. Look also at two other names above Marshall and App -- Cincinnati and UCF. They're up there because they were in the top AAC timeslots in 2022, not because viewers wanted to see what the Big12 was getting next year. Those timeslots will still be there, and someone other than Cincy/UCF will occupy them and get those viewers. This is a huge blindspot for posters on this board.

I will wager that five or more AAC teams have more viewers in 2023 regular season/CCG than the Sun Belt's #2 viewership program does.

(09-03-2023 09:06 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  The infighting on the AAC Board is pretty amazing. The older members really don’t care for the CUSA noobies. I won’t say it’s a dysfunctional conference, but it’s surely a dysfunctional message board.

Reminds me a little bit of The WAC in its last year prior to the implosion. Benson brought in a bunch of programs (of which we were one) in an effort to save the conference, and the older hands wanted no part of it.

Not sayin’ The AAC is on its way out, but there’s a lot of unhappiness over there.

The AAC board issues are sort of understandable. You have the newer teams over there who are just happy to be out of CUSA, and the older fans who have been deperate to get out who just found out they may be stuck there long term.

The AAC can go to hell. Not sorry for them one bit.

https://x.com/tkev_dore/status/169874210...wcyZScsfog

Not beating my chest or anything whatsoever…but we had more than 18K. We have a ton of work to do, but there is no reason Louisiana shouldn’t average +25K! They’re tearing down the upper deck in the offseason and kicking off a major renovation to Cajun Field. Right now capacity is about 50K, the plan is to reduce it to 30K and make it much more appealing. I think once the demolition and construction begin, the casual fans will return. It’s gonna be nice.

(09-04-2023 12:30 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  https://x.com/tkev_dore/status/169874210...wcyZScsfog

Not beating my chest or anything whatsoever…but we had more than 18K. We have a ton of work to do, but there is no reason Louisiana shouldn’t average +25K! They’re tearing down the upper deck in the offseason and kicking off a major renovation to Cajun Field. Right now capacity is about 50K, the plane is to reduce it to 30K and make it much more appealing. I think once the demolition and construction begin, the casual fans will return. It’s gonna be nice.

41,150ish is current capacity and we will reduce to around 34k.

I think we actually had 21-22k at the game Saturday. Not great, but better than last year. Win the next 2 and we will have 25k plus is weather is decent.

(09-04-2023 12:42 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 12:30 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  https://x.com/tkev_dore/status/169874210...wcyZScsfog

Not beating my chest or anything whatsoever…but we had more than 18K. We have a ton of work to do, but there is no reason Louisiana shouldn’t average +25K! They’re tearing down the upper deck in the offseason and kicking off a major renovation to Cajun Field. Right now capacity is about 50K, the plane is to reduce it to 30K and make it much more appealing. I think once the demolition and construction begin, the casual fans will return. It’s gonna be nice.

41,150ish is current capacity and we will reduce to around 34k.

I think we actually had 21-22k at the game Saturday. Not great, but better than last year. Win the next 2 and we will have 25k plus is weather is decent.

Has it ever been 100% completely sold out? Like to the rafters? I don’t think so. I’m thinking 50K might be able to squeeze into it.

(09-04-2023 12:16 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  The AAC can go to hell. Not sorry for them one bit.

Since the Anyone's Accepted Conference is courting Army now as a member, we can count ULM's victory as more proof Sun Belt's definitely superior!

(09-03-2023 06:42 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 05:47 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  Will be interesting to see what the Sagarin ratings say on Monday. Already they have SBC-East above the AAC.

Sagarin has its flaws (tends to be biased towards P5 scheduling over W/L), but is a good general reference for overall conference strength.

Prefer the SP+ rankings, though those don't seem to be published as often.

Tulane could be the fly in our lemonade. If they win their OOC games and march thru the AAC, they have an inside track to get the NY6 slot again.

If South can find a way to beat OSU and the rest of their OOC and then lose most of their conference games, Tulane's win over them won't look so good.

That depends on what Tulane does the rest of the season.

(09-04-2023 11:20 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 08:52 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 08:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:11 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 01:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  As someone who loves to participate in attendance smack when your numbers have 4 teams under 20k maybe don’t bring it up at all. Glass houses and stuff.

AAC had 6 under 25,000, careful cleaning up the broken glass.

Which is why I certainly will never brag about the AACs attendance, because it also sucks. If the AAC draws better than the Sun Belt next week I’m not gonna look that up and come here, because there will be plenty of AAC teams that have hot garbage attendance that deserve trashing.

It's not just the attendance, the TV viewership gap is very much closed. Right now the Mountain West has both of us beat.

Aside aside from Navy, Tulane and ECU, the rest of your conference isn't exactly burning the world down the TV/streaming viewership anymore these days. In fact, App State and Marshall average more viewership than the following AAC programs...

UTSA
Temple
South Florida
Tulsa
Memphis
FAU
Charlotte
UNT
Rice
UAB

https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach...eca4f6acbd

Four quick things for you to think about when you look at those 2022 numbers:
1. Of course the new six are low -- those are their viewer numbers on the CUSA contract. They will almost all improve, just like Marshall did from 2021 to 2022.
2. When these numbers are available for 2023, look at ALL of them. That's what the TV contracts are about, the whole inventory not just cherry picking your top two.
3. And while your presentation made the list of those below your top two seem long...that means there were four above your top two. Heck your top two are right at the median of the legacy AAC schools. Do you understand that isn't really a big W?
4. Look also at two other names above Marshall and App -- Cincinnati and UCF. They're up there because they were in the top AAC timeslots in 2022, not because viewers wanted to see what the Big12 was getting next year. Those timeslots will still be there, and someone other than Cincy/UCF will occupy them and get those viewers. This is a huge blindspot for posters on this board.

I will wager that five or more AAC teams have more viewers in 2023 regular season/CCG than the Sun Belt's #2 viewership program does.

Three AAC teams...SMU isn't in your future.

And it's hilarious that you make the comments in your first point about CUSA, while for years we tried to tell the AAC fans that it was hard to get our TV viewership data.

I'm going to tell you right now I'll bet you actual money that not a single one of your new AAC schools will average over what App State or Marshall has or will in TV/streaming viewership.

You've always seemed smart enough to understand viewership numbers. Bottom line is your commissioner dropped the ball big time aiming for markets as a conference. Tried to tell you it's not about markets it's about brand notoriety. Your vulnerable now, and you are about to get past very very soon. And you guys think you're going to be able to get Army into the fold?! Now!?

You also conveniently left out the fact that both Marshall and App State average over a large portion of your current AAC brands like Memphis, Tulsa, South Florida and Temple.

Navy, East Carolina and Tulane are the only brands to average more.

(09-04-2023 11:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 09:06 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  The infighting on the AAC Board is pretty amazing. The older members really don’t care for the CUSA noobies. I won’t say it’s a dysfunctional conference, but it’s surely a dysfunctional message board.

Reminds me a little bit of The WAC in its last year prior to the implosion. Benson brought in a bunch of programs (of which we were one) in an effort to save the conference, and the older hands wanted no part of it.

Not sayin’ The AAC is on its way out, but there’s a lot of unhappiness over there.

The AAC board issues are sort of understandable. You have the newer teams over there who are just happy to be out of CUSA, and the older fans who have been deperate to get out who just found out they may be stuck there long term.

Oh, I understand it . . . even seen it and lived it our one year in the WAC.
Just sayin’ it’s an ugly picture, and one you’d have to think twice about joining IMHO. I’ve no doubt that the older programs in that conference would bolt the second an opportunity arose. Not even sure I’d want to be part of that conference even if it meant playing with other TX programs.
No cohesion, lots of dysfunction, just my .02 cents, which by today’s standards is more like .04 cents.

(09-04-2023 12:47 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 12:42 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 12:30 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  https://x.com/tkev_dore/status/169874210...wcyZScsfog

Not beating my chest or anything whatsoever…but we had more than 18K. We have a ton of work to do, but there is no reason Louisiana shouldn’t average +25K! They’re tearing down the upper deck in the offseason and kicking off a major renovation to Cajun Field. Right now capacity is about 50K, the plane is to reduce it to 30K and make it much more appealing. I think once the demolition and construction begin, the casual fans will return. It’s gonna be nice.

41,150ish is current capacity and we will reduce to around 34k.

I think we actually had 21-22k at the game Saturday. Not great, but better than last year. Win the next 2 and we will have 25k plus is weather is decent.

Has it ever been 100% completely sold out? Like to the rafters? I don’t think so. I’m thinking 50K might be able to squeeze into it.

The fire marshal shut us down with the southern game where we had 41k.

(09-04-2023 12:30 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  https://x.com/tkev_dore/status/169874210...wcyZScsfog

Not beating my chest or anything whatsoever…but we had more than 18K. We have a ton of work to do, but there is no reason Louisiana shouldn’t average +25K! They’re tearing down the upper deck in the offseason and kicking off a major renovation to Cajun Field. Right now capacity is about 50K, the plan is to reduce it to 30K and make it much more appealing. I think once the demolition and construction begin, the casual fans will return. It’s gonna be nice.

Did they put out renderings yet?

(09-04-2023 01:40 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 12:47 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 12:42 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 12:30 PM)Big Buds Wrote:  https://x.com/tkev_dore/status/169874210...wcyZScsfog

Not beating my chest or anything whatsoever…but we had more than 18K. We have a ton of work to do, but there is no reason Louisiana shouldn’t average +25K! They’re tearing down the upper deck in the offseason and kicking off a major renovation to Cajun Field. Right now capacity is about 50K, the plane is to reduce it to 30K and make it much more appealing. I think once the demolition and construction begin, the casual fans will return. It’s gonna be nice.

41,150ish is current capacity and we will reduce to around 34k.

I think we actually had 21-22k at the game Saturday. Not great, but better than last year. Win the next 2 and we will have 25k plus is weather is decent.

Has it ever been 100% completely sold out? Like to the rafters? I don’t think so. I’m thinking 50K might be able to squeeze into it.

The fire marshal shut us down with the southern game where we had 41k.

Well damn…that makes sense.

With construction taking place during 2024, capacity at Cajun Field will be about 15,000 next season, not counting the hill in the north end zone.

(09-04-2023 12:57 AM)MadEagle Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 06:50 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Hate to say it but Toolame gets skulldrug by Ole Miss at home next weekend anyhow. Our win over them in two weeks won’t be so special.

Tulane won't be skull dragged and may very well pull the upset of Ole Miss

I hope they do, but I also see Ole Miss crushing them.

(09-04-2023 01:39 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 11:59 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 09:06 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  The infighting on the AAC Board is pretty amazing. The older members really don’t care for the CUSA noobies. I won’t say it’s a dysfunctional conference, but it’s surely a dysfunctional message board.

Reminds me a little bit of The WAC in its last year prior to the implosion. Benson brought in a bunch of programs (of which we were one) in an effort to save the conference, and the older hands wanted no part of it.

Not sayin’ The AAC is on its way out, but there’s a lot of unhappiness over there.

The AAC board issues are sort of understandable. You have the newer teams over there who are just happy to be out of CUSA, and the older fans who have been deperate to get out who just found out they may be stuck there long term.

Oh, I understand it . . . even seen it and lived it our one year in the WAC.
Just sayin’ it’s an ugly picture, and one you’d have to think twice about joining IMHO. I’ve no doubt that the older programs in that conference would bolt the second an opportunity arose. Not even sure I’d want to be part of that conference even if it meant playing with other TX programs.
No cohesion, lots of dysfunction, just my .02 cents, which by today’s standards is more like .04 cents.

Interesting the discussion is focused on the possibility that Texas state becomes relevant in the conference race finds winning mojo and then jumps to foster in state rivalries.

Fortunately that burning desire to be with Texas universities has you folks pumped up! Seeing a little potential running top the Sun Belt.

I mean if the past repeats itself no one cares other than "potential".

More plausible is addition by subtraction. One east add = one west loss. It's in your best interest.

Anybody see ULM role Army?

(09-04-2023 01:33 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 06:42 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 05:47 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  Will be interesting to see what the Sagarin ratings say on Monday. Already they have SBC-East above the AAC.

Sagarin has its flaws (tends to be biased towards P5 scheduling over W/L), but is a good general reference for overall conference strength.

Prefer the SP+ rankings, though those don't seem to be published as often.

Tulane could be the fly in our lemonade. If they win their OOC games and march thru the AAC, they have an inside track to get the NY6 slot again.

If South can find a way to beat OSU and the rest of their OOC and then lose most of their conference games, Tulane's win over them won't look so good.

That depends on what Tulane does the rest of the season.

back to back losses to Old Piss and USM should help. USM, that means you guys gotta step up.

(09-04-2023 11:20 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 08:52 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 08:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:11 AM)FairwayEagle Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 01:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  As someone who loves to participate in attendance smack when your numbers have 4 teams under 20k maybe don’t bring it up at all. Glass houses and stuff.

AAC had 6 under 25,000, careful cleaning up the broken glass.

Which is why I certainly will never brag about the AACs attendance, because it also sucks. If the AAC draws better than the Sun Belt next week I’m not gonna look that up and come here, because there will be plenty of AAC teams that have hot garbage attendance that deserve trashing.

It's not just the attendance, the TV viewership gap is very much closed. Right now the Mountain West has both of us beat.

Aside aside from Navy, Tulane and ECU, the rest of your conference isn't exactly burning the world down the TV/streaming viewership anymore these days. In fact, App State and Marshall average more viewership than the following AAC programs...

UTSA
Temple
South Florida
Tulsa
Memphis
FAU
Charlotte
UNT
Rice
UAB

https://medium.com/run-it-back-with-zach...eca4f6acbd

Four quick things for you to think about when you look at those 2022 numbers:
1. Of course the new six are low -- those are their viewer numbers on the CUSA contract. They will almost all improve, just like Marshall did from 2021 to 2022.
2. When these numbers are available for 2023, look at ALL of them. That's what the TV contracts are about, the whole inventory not just cherry picking your top two.
3. And while your presentation made the list of those below your top two seem long...that means there were four above your top two. Heck your top two are right at the median of the legacy AAC schools. Do you understand that isn't really a big W?
4. Look also at two other names above Marshall and App -- Cincinnati and UCF. They're up there because they were in the top AAC timeslots in 2022, not because viewers wanted to see what the Big12 was getting next year. Those timeslots will still be there, and someone other than Cincy/UCF will occupy them and get those viewers. This is a huge blindspot for posters on this board.

I will wager that five or more AAC teams have more viewers in 2023 regular season/CCG than the Sun Belt's #2 viewership program does.

We took all the teams no one cared about from CUSA made the AAC into CUSA, but now they are totally going to be amazing even though it's just the CUSA conference pretty much that was on a long so sucking decline for over 2 decades.

But, be happy when your teams are all 0-12 you can talk about how amazing your academics are and think someone actually cares about that in relation to your sports.