Week 6 Games
Fresno @ Wyoming, FOX .737
WKU @ LaTech, ESPN .567
Marshall @ NCST, CW .386
Jax St@ MTenn, ESPNU .145
USF @ UAB, ESPN2 .143
Tex St@ Louisiana ESPNU .043
Toledo@ UMass ESPNU .016

Total Exposure
AAC 21.36
MWC 25.25
SBC 5.98
CUSA 5.87
MAC 6.94

Viewership under Media Contract
AAC 10.929
MWC 8.372
SBC 1.651
CUSA 1.368
MAC .199

(10-10-2023 10:20 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 6 Games
Fresno @ Wyoming, FOX .737
WKU @ LaTech, ESPN .567
Marshall @ NCST, CW .386
Jax St@ MTenn, ESPNU .145
USF @ UAB, ESPN2 .143
Tex St@ Louisiana ESPNU .043
Toledo@ UMass ESPNU .016

Total Exposure
AAC 21.36
MWC 25.25
SBC 5.98
CUSA 5.87
MAC 6.94

Viewership under Media Contract
AAC 10.929
MWC 8.372
SBC 3.075
CUSA 1.368
MAC .199

I am not postured to update my spreadsheet til tonight or tomorrow.

But...
I agreed w 1.609 million Sun Belt conference controlled inventory LAST week, so they didnt double up.

(10-10-2023 11:15 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-10-2023 10:20 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 6 Games
Fresno @ Wyoming, FOX .737
WKU @ LaTech, ESPN .567
Marshall @ NCST, CW .386
Jax St@ MTenn, ESPNU .145
USF @ UAB, ESPN2 .143
Tex St@ Louisiana ESPNU .043
Toledo@ UMass ESPNU .016

Total Exposure
AAC 21.36
MWC 25.25
SBC 5.98
CUSA 5.87
MAC 6.94

Viewership under Media Contract
AAC 10.929
MWC 8.372
SBC 3.075
CUSA 1.368
MAC .199

I am not postured to update my spreadsheet til tonight or tomorrow.

But...
I agreed w 1.609 million Sun Belt conference controlled inventory LAST week, so they didnt double up.

I believe it actually was 2.609 last week. I think his last post with 1.609 was a typo, no?

(10-10-2023 11:24 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(10-10-2023 11:15 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-10-2023 10:20 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 6 Games
Fresno @ Wyoming, FOX .737
WKU @ LaTech, ESPN .567
Marshall @ NCST, CW .386
Jax St@ MTenn, ESPNU .145
USF @ UAB, ESPN2 .143
Tex St@ Louisiana ESPNU .043
Toledo@ UMass ESPNU .016

Total Exposure
AAC 21.36
MWC 25.25
SBC 5.98
CUSA 5.87
MAC 6.94

Viewership under Media Contract
AAC 10.929
MWC 8.372
SBC 3.075
CUSA 1.368
MAC .199

I am not postured to update my spreadsheet til tonight or tomorrow.

But...
I agreed w 1.609 million Sun Belt conference controlled inventory LAST week, so they didnt double up.

I believe it actually was 2.609 last week. I think his last post with 1.609 was a typo, no?

No - 2.609 two weeks ago was in error.

1.609 last week was good by my spreadsheet...which I can't grab even old data at the moment

(10-10-2023 11:24 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(10-10-2023 11:15 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-10-2023 10:20 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 6 Games
Fresno @ Wyoming, FOX .737
WKU @ LaTech, ESPN .567
Marshall @ NCST, CW .386
Jax St@ MTenn, ESPNU .145
USF @ UAB, ESPN2 .143
Tex St@ Louisiana ESPNU .043
Toledo@ UMass ESPNU .016

Total Exposure
AAC 21.36
MWC 25.25
SBC 5.98
CUSA 5.87
MAC 6.94

Viewership under Media Contract
AAC 10.929
MWC 8.372
SBC 3.075
CUSA 1.368
MAC .199

I am not postured to update my spreadsheet til tonight or tomorrow.

But...
I agreed w 1.609 million Sun Belt conference controlled inventory LAST week, so they didnt double up.

I believe it actually was 2.609 last week. I think his last post with 1.609 was a typo, no?

Actually it was a mistake on my excel file. The correct amount for SBC as of Week 6 is 1.651 million.

Sun Belt conference controlled inventory, earliest to latest:

Army @ ULM NFLN 101k
Tulane @ USM ESPNU 53k
JMU @ Troy NFLN 81k
Wake @ ODU ESPN2 324k
WKU @Troy ESPNU 29k
VPI @ Marshall ESPN2 319k
GSU @Coastal ESPN 671k
South Alabama @ JMU ESPNU 30k
Texas State @ Louisiana ESPNU 43k

1.651 million now. 1.608 million after week five

(10-10-2023 12:13 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Sun Belt conference controlled inventory, earliest to latest:

Army @ ULM NFLN 101k
Tulane @ USM ESPNU 53k
JMU @ Troy NFLN 81k
Wake @ ODU ESPN2 324k
WKU @Troy ESPNU 29k
VPI @ Marshall ESPN2 319k
GSU @Coastal ESPN 671k
South Alabama @ JMU ESPNU 30k
Texas State @ Louisiana ESPNU 43k

1.651 million now. 1.608 million after week five

Easy to read now. Thanks!

G5 Viewership by Media Deal


G5 Viewership by Media Deal - Conference Only Games

(10-10-2023 12:47 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  G5 Viewership by Media Deal


G5 Viewership by Media Deal - Conference Only Games

Second time you've posted these pictures, and they're not adding value for me.

Look like snapshots or incomplete?

Seens you have the option to select some fields but havent?

Pictures can be very useful to tell a story, but I can't tell what youre trying to convey

(10-10-2023 02:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(10-10-2023 12:47 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  G5 Viewership by Media Deal


G5 Viewership by Media Deal - Conference Only Games

Second time you've posted these pictures, and they're not adding value for me.

Look like snapshots or incomplete?

Seens you have the option to select some fields but havent?

Pictures can be very useful to tell a story, but I can't tell what youre trying to convey

These are screenshots of Powerbi.

I keep a Powerbi of the Viewership under each Conference Media Deal.

The buttons on the side are the different filters, I include them in the screenshot so you can see what I am filtering. (Tony Altimore for example filters things without telling the audience and that manipulates opinions)

Some people like the Running Total Viewership.
Some people like the Average Viewership.
Some people want to see a list of the top games to see if there are any outliers.
So I include it all in one screenshot.

I had one guy in the Conference Realignment forum who wanted P5 Conference on just Over the Air Channels.



So if you have a particular view you want to see, I can pull it pretty fast.

I have another one where its a team view of total exposure (not just under media deal, so home and away)

Thanks for the reply and discussion - I am following better now! (It might help that I finally looked on a bigger screen than my phone)

I was going to drill down and nerd out more, but need to get some actual work done

clt says ecu and smu will be crushed by the swifties watching nfl tonite

Week 7 Games
Tulane @ Memphis, ESPN 1.72 mill
Coastal Car @ App St, ESPN2, .499
Boise @ Col St, FS1, .471
SMU @ ECU, ESPN, .467
UTEP @ FIU, ESPN2, .332
Geo. Sout @ JMad, ESPN2 .169
Marsh @ Geo. St, ESPN2, .129
Lib @ Jack St, ESPNU, .117
FAU @ USF, ESPN2, .084
UAB @ UTSA , ESPNU, .049
Ohio @ NIll, ESPNU, .046
Tem @ NTex , ESPNU, .037

Total Exposure
AAC 23.73 mill
MWC 25.72
SBC 6.78
CUSA 6.32
MAC 6.98

TV Contract Exposure
AAC 13.286 mill
MWC 8.843
SBC 2.448
CUSA 1.817
MAC .245

***********************************************************

(10-17-2023 02:13 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 7 Games
Tulane @ Memphis, ESPN 1.72 mill
Coastal Car @ App St, ESPN2, .499
Boise @ Col St, FS1, .471
SMU @ ECU, ESPN, .467
UTEP @ FIU, ESPN2, .332
Geo. Sout @ JMad, ESPN2 .169
Marsh @ Geo. St, ESPN2, .129
Lib @ Jack St, ESPNU, .117
FAU @ USF, ESPN2, .084
UAB @ UTSA , ESPNU, .049
Ohio @ NIll, ESPNU, .046
Tem @ NTex , ESPNU, .037

Total Exposure
AAC 23.73 mill
MWC 25.72
SBC 6.78
CUSA 6.32
MAC 6.98

TV Contract Exposure
AAC 13.286 mill
MWC 8.843
SBC 2.448
CUSA 1.817
MAC .245

***********************************************************

Kinda disappointing that we could not get the same numbers on ESPN2 as the C-USA and SBC games.

(10-17-2023 10:33 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-17-2023 02:13 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 7 Games
Tulane @ Memphis, ESPN 1.72 mill
Coastal Car @ App St, ESPN2, .499
Boise @ Col St, FS1, .471
SMU @ ECU, ESPN, .467
UTEP @ FIU, ESPN2, .332
Geo. Sout @ JMad, ESPN2 .169
Marsh @ Geo. St, ESPN2, .129
Lib @ Jack St, ESPNU, .117
FAU @ USF, ESPN2, .084
UAB @ UTSA , ESPNU, .049
Ohio @ NIll, ESPNU, .046
Tem @ NTex , ESPNU, .037

Total Exposure
AAC 23.73 mill
MWC 25.72
SBC 6.78
CUSA 6.32
MAC 6.98

TV Contract Exposure
AAC 13.286 mill
MWC 8.843
SBC 2.448
CUSA 1.817
MAC .245

***********************************************************

Kinda disappointing that we could not get the same numbers on ESPN2 as the C-USA and SBC games.

All of those were midweek games, except for the one featuring 5-0 vs 4-1 with NYD implications.

Saturday games highlighted in italics

(10-17-2023 10:33 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-17-2023 02:13 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 7 Games
Tulane @ Memphis, ESPN 1.72 mill
Coastal Car @ App St, ESPN2, .499
Boise @ Col St, FS1, .471
SMU @ ECU, ESPN, .467
UTEP @ FIU, ESPN2, .332
Geo. Sout @ JMad, ESPN2 .169
Marsh @ Geo. St, ESPN2, .129
Lib @ Jack St, ESPNU, .117
FAU @ USF, ESPN2, .084
UAB @ UTSA , ESPNU, .049
Ohio @ NIll, ESPNU, .046
Tem @ NTex , ESPNU, .037

Total Exposure
AAC 23.73 mill
MWC 25.72
SBC 6.78
CUSA 6.32
MAC 6.98

TV Contract Exposure
AAC 13.286 mill
MWC 8.843
SBC 2.448
CUSA 1.817
MAC .245

***********************************************************

Kinda disappointing that we could not get the same numbers on ESPN2 as the C-USA and SBC games.

Difference between midweek games theirs vs Saturday games ours.

(10-18-2023 08:38 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-17-2023 10:33 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-17-2023 02:13 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 7 Games
Tulane @ Memphis, ESPN 1.72 mill
Coastal Car @ App St, ESPN2, .499
Boise @ Col St, FS1, .471
SMU @ ECU, ESPN, .467
UTEP @ FIU, ESPN2, .332
Geo. Sout @ JMad, ESPN2 .169
Marsh @ Geo. St, ESPN2, .129
Lib @ Jack St, ESPNU, .117
FAU @ USF, ESPN2, .084
UAB @ UTSA , ESPNU, .049
Ohio @ NIll, ESPNU, .046
Tem @ NTex , ESPNU, .037

Total Exposure
AAC 23.73 mill
MWC 25.72
SBC 6.78
CUSA 6.32
MAC 6.98

TV Contract Exposure
AAC 13.286 mill
MWC 8.843
SBC 2.448
CUSA 1.817
MAC .245

***********************************************************

Kinda disappointing that we could not get the same numbers on ESPN2 as the C-USA and SBC games.

Difference between midweek games theirs vs Saturday games ours.

GaSo vs. JMU and Marshall vs. Ga State were both on Saturday.
Yes, oatm has pointed out that both games had matched teams that were all 5-0 or 4-1, which, certainly, made sense. But we're still talking about GaSo, GaState, and JMU who were all FCS just 10 years ago.

(10-18-2023 09:01 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-18-2023 08:38 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-17-2023 10:33 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-17-2023 02:13 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 7 Games
Tulane @ Memphis, ESPN 1.72 mill
Coastal Car @ App St, ESPN2, .499
Boise @ Col St, FS1, .471
SMU @ ECU, ESPN, .467
UTEP @ FIU, ESPN2, .332
Geo. Sout @ JMad, ESPN2 .169
Marsh @ Geo. St, ESPN2, .129
Lib @ Jack St, ESPNU, .117
FAU @ USF, ESPN2, .084
UAB @ UTSA , ESPNU, .049
Ohio @ NIll, ESPNU, .046
Tem @ NTex , ESPNU, .037

Total Exposure
AAC 23.73 mill
MWC 25.72
SBC 6.78
CUSA 6.32
MAC 6.98

TV Contract Exposure
AAC 13.286 mill
MWC 8.843
SBC 2.448
CUSA 1.817
MAC .245

***********************************************************

Kinda disappointing that we could not get the same numbers on ESPN2 as the C-USA and SBC games.

Difference between midweek games theirs vs Saturday games ours.

GaSo vs. JMU and Marshall vs. Ga State were both on Saturday.
Yes, oatm has pointed out that both games had matched teams that were all 5-0 or 4-1, which, certainly, made sense. But we're still talking about GaSo, GaState, and JMU who were all FCS just 10 years ago.

You also need to look what games were opposite to them.

I'd consult Consumer Reports on this matter.

(10-18-2023 09:33 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-18-2023 09:01 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-18-2023 08:38 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(10-17-2023 10:33 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(10-17-2023 02:13 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Week 7 Games
Tulane @ Memphis, ESPN 1.72 mill
Coastal Car @ App St, ESPN2, .499
Boise @ Col St, FS1, .471
SMU @ ECU, ESPN, .467
UTEP @ FIU, ESPN2, .332
Geo. Sout @ JMad, ESPN2 .169
Marsh @ Geo. St, ESPN2, .129
Lib @ Jack St, ESPNU, .117
FAU @ USF, ESPN2, .084
UAB @ UTSA , ESPNU, .049
Ohio @ NIll, ESPNU, .046
Tem @ NTex , ESPNU, .037

Total Exposure
AAC 23.73 mill
MWC 25.72
SBC 6.78
CUSA 6.32
MAC 6.98

TV Contract Exposure
AAC 13.286 mill
MWC 8.843
SBC 2.448
CUSA 1.817
MAC .245

***********************************************************

Kinda disappointing that we could not get the same numbers on ESPN2 as the C-USA and SBC games.

Difference between midweek games theirs vs Saturday games ours.

GaSo vs. JMU and Marshall vs. Ga State were both on Saturday.
Yes, oatm has pointed out that both games had matched teams that were all 5-0 or 4-1, which, certainly, made sense. But we're still talking about GaSo, GaState, and JMU who were all FCS just 10 years ago.

You also need to look what games were opposite to them.

Edited 23 Oct with the Friday 20 October game too.

SportsTVRatings dot com has numbers up from Tuesday 17 October - Friday 20 October, so we can look at the whole season, not one snapshot.

Looking at the three conferences you named, and weeknight slots.

Overall Weeknight Average viewers: AAC 778,143 (Th,F) SBC 507,000 (Tu,Th) CUSA 234,000 (Tu,W,Th)
ESPN Weeknight Averages: AAC 878,000 (Th,F), SBC 636,500 (Th), CUSA 567,000
ESPN2 Weeknight Averages: SBC 377,500 (Tu), CUSA 312,500 (W), AAC 179,000 (Rice-Tulsa)
Thursday ESPN Averages: AAC 694,667, SBC 636,500, CUSA 567,000
Friday Averages: AAC 1,061,333 (all ESPN)
Thursday Averages: SBC 636,500 (all ESPN); AAC 565,750 (ESPN and ESPN2); CUSA 320,500 (ESPN and ESPNU)
Wednesday Averages: CUSA 256,667 (2 and U)
Tuesday Averages: SBC 377,500 (ESPN2); CUSA 113,500 (ESPNU)
ESPN2 Saturdays (through 14 Oct) AAC is 451,570 and SBC is 235,200

I know I have previously said average per rated game doesn't do much for the whole picture. This is exactly the case where averages per game provide meaningful information - direct comparison in a timeslot/network.

Overall, we're fine - ahead of those two on weeknights period. Ahead of those two on ESPN overall and on ESPN Thursdays. Our only ESPN2 datapoint is the two smallest FBS schools in the country.
Fridays are better than Thursdays for us (no NFL competition), but Thursdays are still better than Tues/Weds for the others. MACtion can sometimes put up bigger Tues/Weds numbers, we'll see.

Standby for the "Well, takeaway your good Navy Memphis number, and we look better" taeks.