I haven’t kept this data for a while, and honestly not sure if I’ll have the time/patience to update it consistently. But for now, I’m going to attempt to list all of the men’s basketball scores against non-conference opponents for the full season. Please don’t hesitate to provide any scores that I have left out — I promise it’s due to forgetfulness or lack of awareness and nothing intentional. Here goes!

note: opponent’s national ranking in bold is AP first, followed by Coaches, and is taken from the most recent poll on the date game was played.

America East (2-2)
W @Charlotte 69, Maine 52 • Nov. 6
L Bryant 61, @Florida Atlantic 52 • Nov. 18
L Maine 70, @South Florida 59 • Nov. 22
W @Brooklyn, NY: Temple 78, UAlbany 73 • Dec. 10

Atlantic Coast (4-2)
L @Asheville, NC: Clemson 77, UAB 76 • Nov. 10
W @Kissimmee, FL: FAU 84, Virginia Tech 50 • Nov. 26
W @Sunrise, FL: USF 88, Florida State 72 • Dec. 9
L @22/21Duke 80, Charlotte 56 • Dec. 9
W @Memphis 79, 13/11Clemson 77 • Dec. 16
W SMU 68, @Florida State 57 • Dec. 16

Atlantic Sun (4-0)
W @Tulsa 70, Central Arkansas 53 • Nov. 6
W @Wichita State 76, Lipscomb 59 • Nov. 6
W @East Carolina 85, Kennesaw State 84 • Nov. 21
W @Charlotte 85, Stetson 62 • Dec. 5

Atlantic 10 (10-8)
W @Wintrust Arena: FAU 75, Loyola-Chi. 62 • Nov. 8
W@St. Augustine, FL: UNCC 54, George Mason 49 • Nov. 19
W @Conway, SC: Wichita State 88, Saint Louis 69 • Nov. 19
L @George Mason 81, East Carolina 59 • Nov. 25
3OT W @Temple 106, LaSalle 99 • Nov. 29
L Davidson 85, @Charlotte 81 • Nov. 29
L Dayton 65, @SMU 63 • Nov. 29
W @Wichita State 80, Richmond 68 • Nov. 29
L @Wells Fargo Center: Saint Joseph’s 74, Temple 65 • Dec. 2
L @UMass 66, South Florida 56 • Dec. 2
W Tulane 89, @Fordham 81 • Dec. 3
W @Tulsa 88, Loyola-Chicago 77 • Dec. 5
OT W Memphis 85, @VCU 80 • Dec. 6
L @Brooklyn, NY: Fordham 60, North Texas 59 • Dec. 10
L @VCU 87, Temple 78 • Dec. 16
W @South Florida 77, Loyola-Chicago 64 • Dec. 16
W @Springfield, MA: FAU 64, St. Bonavent. 54 • Dec. 16
L @Richmond 64, Charlotte 56 • Dec. 16

Big East (1-2)
L @Charleston, SC: St. John’s 53, UNT 52 • Nov. 16
W @Kissimmee, FL: FAU 91, Butler 86 • Nov. 23
L @Nassau, BS: Villanova 79, Memphis 63 • Nov. 24

Big Sky (1-0)
W @Tulane 92, Sacramento State 57 • Nov. 17

Big South (0-1)
L South Carolina Upstate 83, @ECU 81 • Nov. 15

Big Ten (2-3)
L @Minnesota 102, UTSA 77 • Nov. 10
W @Asheville, NC: UAB 66, Maryland 63 • Nov. 12
W @Nassau, BS: Memphis 71, Michigan 67 • Nov. 22
L @Fort Myers, FL: Wisconsin 69, SMU 61 • Nov. 22
L @New York, NY: 20/18Illinois 98, FAU 89 • Dec. 5

Big XII (1-4)
L @19/17Texas 80, Rice 64 • Nov. 15
OT L @St. Augustine, FL: UCF 74, UNCC 71 • Nov. 20
W @Ft. Myers, FL: SMU 70, West Virginia 58 • Nov. 20
L @3/2Houston 75, Rice 39 • Dec. 6
L @Oklahoma City, OK: Oklahoma State 72, Tulsa 57 • Dec. 10

Big West (0-1)
L @Henderson, NV: UC-Irvine 83, Rice 68 • Nov. 24

Coastal Athletic Association (5-2)
W @East Carolina 77, Campbell 63 • Nov. 11
W Temple 66, @Drexel 64 • Nov. 14
L Northeastern 82, @East Carolina 76 • Nov. 19
W @Charleston, SC: UNT 65, Towson 39 • Nov. 19
L @Hofstra 82, South Florida 63 • Nov. 30
W @East Carolina 74, UNC-Wilmington 66 • Nov. 30
W @Florida Atlantic 90, Coll. of Charleston 74 • Dec. 2

Conference USA (4-3)
W @Wichita State 71, Western Kentucky 61 • Nov. 9
L @Spectrum Center: Liberty 71, UNCC 59 • Nov. 10
L @Conway, SC: Liberty 83, Wichita State 66 • Nov. 17
W UAB 58, @Middle Tennessee 57 • Nov. 21
L Jacksonville State 77, @UTSA 62 • Nov. 24
W @FAU 83, Liberty 58 • Nov. 30
W @FAU 94, Florida International 60 • Dec. 13

Ivy League (0-2)
L Harvard 89, @Rice 76 • Nov. 10
L Columbia 78, @Temple 73 • Nov. 18

Mid-American (1-1)
W @FAU 100, Eastern Michigan 57 • Nov. 14
L Central Michigan 68, @South Florida 63 • Nov. 15

Mid-Eastern Athletic (5-0)
W @Temple 85, Maryland/Eastern Shore 65 • Nov. 6
W @South Fla. 96, South Carolina State 52 • Nov. 9
W @Tulsa 90, South Carolina State 70 • Nov. 20
W @Wichita State 80, Norfolk State 67 • Nov. 25
W @ECU 63, Maryland/Eastern Shore 52 • Dec. 4

Missouri Valley (4-3)
OT L Bradley 73, @UAB 71 • Nov. 6
OT W @North Texas 83, Northern Iowa 77 • Nov. 7
W @South Florida 74, Northern Iowa 65 • Nov. 19
L @San Juan Cap’o, CA: Bradley 80, Tulane 77 • Nov. 20
L @Henderson, NV: Indiana State 103, Rice 88 • Nov. 21
W @Tulsa 73, Missouri State 72 • Dec. 16
W @Wichita State 69, Southern Illinois 68 • Dec. 16

Mountain West (0-2)
L @Henderson, NV: New Mexico 90, Rice 56 • Nov. 22
L @Boise State 69, North Texas 64 • Dec. 5

Ohio Valley (3-2)
OT W @UTSA 78, Western Illinois 68 • Nov. 6
W @SMU 90, Western Illinois 53 • Nov. 8
OT L @Little Rock 84, Tulsa 82 • Nov. 25
W @Rice 98, UT-Martin 78 • Nov. 30
L @Little Rock 93, UTSA 84 • Dec. 13

Pac-12 (1-2)
W @San Juan Cap’o, CA: Tulane 84, Cal 81 • Nov. 22
L @Arizona State 76, SMU 74 • Dec. 6
L @Oregon State 66, UTSA 65 • Dec. 17

Patriot League (1-0)
W Temple 75, @Navy 68 • Nov. 10

Southeastern (4-8)
W Memphis 70, @Missouri 55 • Nov. 10
L 13/15Texas A&M 79, @SMU 66 • Nov. 14
L @Charleston, SC: LSU 66, North Texas 62 • Nov. 17
L Ole Miss 77, @Temple 76 • Nov. 22
W @Nassau, BS: Memphis 84, 20/NRArkansas 79 • Nov. 23
W @Kissimmee, FL: FAU 96, 12/13Texas A&M 89 • Nov. 24
L @Ole Miss 80, Temple 77 • Dec. 2
L @Missouri 82, Wichita State 72 • Dec. 3
L @Atlanta, GA: Mississippi St. 106, Tulane 76 • Dec. 9
L South Carolina 68, @East Carolina 62 • Dec. 9
W Memphis 81, @21/19Texas A&M 75 • Dec. 10
L @Lakeland, FL: Florida 70, East Carolina 65 • Dec. 14
@Tupelo, MS: North Texas vs. Mississippi State • Dec. 17

Southern (2-0)
W @UAB 92, Furman 86 • Nov. 25
2OT W @Tulane 117, Furman 110 • Dec. 14

Southland (11-2)
W @Tulane 91, Nicholls State 81 • Nov. 6
W @Tulane 88, Northwestern State 71 • Nov. 9
W @SMU 78, Lamar 67 • Nov. 9
W @Tulsa 85, Incarnate Word 71 • Nov. 11
L @Lamar 90, UTSA 82 • Nov. 14
W UTSA 89, @Houston Christian 87 • Nov. 20
W @UTSA 90, Incarnate Word 80 • Nov. 25
L McNeese 81, @UAB 60 • Nov. 28
W @UTSA 86, Lamar 83 • Nov. 30
W @Rice 65, Houston Christian 56 • Dec. 2
W @SMU 90, Texas A&M/Commerce 47 • Dec. 3
W @Rice 80, Incarnate Word 57 • Dec. 13
W Rice 76, @Northwestern State 51 • Dec. 16

Southwestern Athletic (9-0)
W @Memphis 94, Jackson State 77 • Nov. 6
W @UAB 80, Alcorn State 77 • Nov. 16
W @Tulsa 72, Jackson State 52 • Nov. 16
W @Memphis 92, Alabama State 75 • Nov. 17
W @Tulane 98, Prairie View A&M 77 • Nov. 29
W @North Texas 79, Mississippi Valley A&M 48 • Dec. 2
W @South Florida 104, Arkansas/Pine Bluff 86 • Dec. 12
W UAB 93, @Alabama A&M 82 • Dec. 13
W @Tulane 105, Southern 81 • Dec. 16

Summit League (1-2)
W @North Texas 75, Omaha 64 • Nov. 11
L @Oral Roberts 79, Tulsa 70 • Dec. 2
L @INTRUST Bank Arena: South Dakota State 79, Wichita State 69 • Dec. 9

Sun Belt (4-3)
W Wichita State 86, @Coastal Carolina 77 • Nov. 16
L @Texas State 72, UTSA 62 • Nov. 17
W @East Carolina 82, Georgia Southern 64 • Nov. 20
W @Charlotte 65, Georgia State 57 • Nov. 25
W @SMU 70, UL/Monroe 57• Nov. 26
L Southern Miss 85, @UAB 82 • Dec. 1
L @Arkansas State 87, UAB 68 • Dec. 9

Western Athletic (1-0)
W @Charlotte 62, Utah Valley 45 • Nov. 15

non-Division I opponents (8-0)
Nov. 6:
@East Carolina 91, Ferrum College (VA) 61
@SMU 82, Southwestern Assemblies of God (TX) 63
Nov. 7:
@Rice 101, University of Saint Thomas (TX) 57
Nov. 12:
@Wichita State 95, Friends University (KS) 65
Nov. 26:
@North Texas 79, Angelo State University (TX) 50
Dec. 6:
@Temple 85, Bloomsburg University (PA) 55
Dec. 10:
@UTSA 93, Arkansas/Fort Smith 60
Dec. 17:
@UAB 92, University of Montevallo (AL) 56

SAGU is NAIA from Waxahachie, TX just South of DFW. They have a mature team - many from the DFW area, and won 21 games last year. They were quick and feisty, so a decent test, with little downside. SMU still won by 19. We tried out several combinations of players, nobody got injured, and hopefully built some chemistry.

The schedule gets progressively more difficult. Hopefully these first 3 games will prepare us for A&M and the Fort Myers Tournament.

Wed Nov 8 - Western Illinois
Thu Nov 9 - Lamar
Tue Nov 14 - Texas A&M #15
Mon Nov 20 - West Virginia - Tournament
Wed Nov 22 - Virginia or Wisconsin - Tournament

(11-06-2023 11:20 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  America East (1-0)
W @Charlotte 69, Maine 52 Nov. 6

Atlantic Sun (2-0)
W @Tulsa 70, Central Arkansas 53 Nov. 6
W @Wichita State 76, Lipscomb 59 Nov. 6

Mid-Eastern Athletic (1-0)
W @Temple 85, Maryland-Eastern Shore 65 Nov. 6

Missouri Valley (0-1)
OT L Bradley 73, @UAB 71 Nov. 6

Southland (1-0)
W @Tulane 91, Nicholls State 81 Nov. 6

Southwestern Athletic (1-0)
W @Memphis 94, Jackson State 77 Nov. 6

Summit League (1-0)
OT W @UTSA 78, Western Illinois 68 Nov. 6

non-Division I opponents (2-0)
Nov. 6
@East Carolina 91, Ferrum College 61
@SMU 82, Southwestern Assemblies of God 63

Western Illinois is in the Ohio Valley Conference now

(11-07-2023 12:03 AM)Kandy Atz Wrote:  SAGU is NAIA from Waxahachie, TX just South of DFW. They have a mature team - many from the DFW area, and won 21 games last year. They were quick and feisty, so a decent test, with little downside. SMU still won by 19. We tried out several combinations of players, nobody got injured, and hopefully built some chemistry.

The schedule gets progressively more difficult. Hopefully these first 3 games will prepare us for A&M and the Fort Myers Tournament.

Wed Nov 8 - Western Illinois
Thu Nov 9 - Lamar
Tue Nov 14 - Texas A&M #15
Mon Nov 20 - West Virginia - Tournament
Wed Nov 22 - Virginia or Wisconsin - Tournament

The game sounds perfect for an exhibition. Why did SMU make it a regular season game?

Iron College?

(11-07-2023 10:04 AM)HoustonRoadRunner Wrote:  Western Illinois is in the Ohio Valley Conference now

Gracias, HRR. Correction made

(11-07-2023 11:23 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Iron College?

For the curious--- last season Ferrum finish near the bottom of The Old Dominion Athletic Conference just beating out conference mate Eastern Mennonite.

(11-07-2023 10:10 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 12:03 AM)Kandy Atz Wrote:  SAGU is NAIA from Waxahachie, TX just South of DFW. They have a mature team - many from the DFW area, and won 21 games last year.

The game sounds perfect for an exhibition. Why did SMU make it a regular season game?

Is the pay-out the same for a regular season game vs. an exhibition game?

(11-07-2023 10:04 AM)HoustonRoadRunner Wrote:  

(11-06-2023 11:20 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  America East (1-0)
W @Charlotte 69, Maine 52 Nov. 6

Atlantic Sun (2-0)
W @Tulsa 70, Central Arkansas 53 Nov. 6
W @Wichita State 76, Lipscomb 59 Nov. 6

Mid-Eastern Athletic (1-0)
W @Temple 85, Maryland-Eastern Shore 65 Nov. 6

Missouri Valley (0-1)
OT L Bradley 73, @UAB 71 Nov. 6

Southland (1-0)
W @Tulane 91, Nicholls State 81 Nov. 6

Southwestern Athletic (1-0)
W @Memphis 94, Jackson State 77 Nov. 6

Summit League (1-0)
OT W @UTSA 78, Western Illinois 68 Nov. 6

non-Division I opponents (2-0)
Nov. 6
@East Carolina 91, Ferrum College 61
@SMU 82, Southwestern Assemblies of God 63

Western Illinois is in the Ohio Valley Conference now

Western Illinois next game is at SMU

(11-06-2023 11:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I haven’t kept this data for a while, and honestly not sure if I’ll have the time/patience to update it consistently. But for now, I’m going to attempt to list all of the men’s basketball scores against non-conference opponents for the full season. Please don’t hesitate to provide any scores that I have left out — I promise it’s due to forgetfulness or lack of awareness and nothing intentional. Here goes!

Appreciate you taking the time to even start doing this. Will be a nice visual to have throughout the season when comparing leagues. Thank you!

(11-07-2023 12:03 PM)Nameless Wrote:  

(11-06-2023 11:18 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I haven’t kept this data for a while, and honestly not sure if I’ll have the time/patience to update it consistently. But for now, I’m going to attempt to list all of the men’s basketball scores against non-conference opponents for the full season. Please don’t hesitate to provide any scores that I have left out — I promise it’s due to forgetfulness or lack of awareness and nothing intentional. Here goes!

Appreciate you taking the time to even start doing this. Will be a nice visual to have throughout the season when comparing leagues. Thank you!

I agree. Valuable thread.

(11-07-2023 10:10 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 12:03 AM)Kandy Atz Wrote:  SAGU is NAIA from Waxahachie, TX just South of DFW. They have a mature team - many from the DFW area, and won 21 games last year. They were quick and feisty, so a decent test, with little downside. SMU still won by 19. We tried out several combinations of players, nobody got injured, and hopefully built some chemistry.

The schedule gets progressively more difficult. Hopefully these first 3 games will prepare us for A&M and the Fort Myers Tournament.

Wed Nov 8 - Western Illinois
Thu Nov 9 - Lamar
Tue Nov 14 - Texas A&M #15
Mon Nov 20 - West Virginia - Tournament
Wed Nov 22 - Virginia or Wisconsin - Tournament

The game sounds perfect for an exhibition. Why did SMU make it a regular season game?

I am not a spokesperson, but these are my assumptions/possibilities:
- Helps SAGU playing in front of player parents, exposure in Dallas for recruiting, some $$$, maybe coaching relationship?
- NAIA games do not count in NET or factor in tournament selection - Correct me if I am wrong.
- A "shake down" game that is "real" not exhibition or secret scrimmage, with no downside
- A first game for fans that SHOULD be a win, and a chance to build excitement for the next 3 games leading to A&M
- We had at least one scrimmage with Kansas State, maybe there was another and so by rule this was a game? Unless the rule has changed again it was 2 scrimmages or exhibitions were allowed.
- They played 3 games in Spain - not sure if that would limit their scrimmage/exhibition games allowed.
- I am rambling and cannot find an official response. So maybe someone closer to the program might know the answer.

(11-07-2023 11:57 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 10:04 AM)HoustonRoadRunner Wrote:  

(11-06-2023 11:20 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  America East (1-0)
W @Charlotte 69, Maine 52 Nov. 6

Atlantic Sun (2-0)
W @Tulsa 70, Central Arkansas 53 Nov. 6
W @Wichita State 76, Lipscomb 59 Nov. 6

Mid-Eastern Athletic (1-0)
W @Temple 85, Maryland-Eastern Shore 65 Nov. 6

Missouri Valley (0-1)
OT L Bradley 73, @UAB 71 Nov. 6

Southland (1-0)
W @Tulane 91, Nicholls State 81 Nov. 6

Southwestern Athletic (1-0)
W @Memphis 94, Jackson State 77 Nov. 6

Summit League (1-0)
OT W @UTSA 78, Western Illinois 68 Nov. 6

non-Division I opponents (2-0)
Nov. 6
@East Carolina 91, Ferrum College 61
@SMU 82, Southwestern Assemblies of God 63

Western Illinois is in the Ohio Valley Conference now

Western Illinois next game is at SMU

Yup I am interested to see how SMU does against them...

(11-07-2023 11:41 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 10:04 AM)HoustonRoadRunner Wrote:  Western Illinois is in the Ohio Valley Conference now

Gracias, HRR. Correction made

Yes sir, thank you for making this thread

(11-07-2023 04:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:46 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:23 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Iron College?

For the curious--- last season Ferrum finish near the bottom of The Old Dominion Athletic Conference just beating out conference mate Eastern Mennonite.

I just looked and they finished above 4 teams. Really weird to lie about where a D3 team finished in the basketball standings.

Not as weird as pretending that a well-documented SOS ranking doesn't measure SOS.

(11-07-2023 11:46 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:23 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Iron College?

For the curious--- last season Ferrum finish near the bottom of The Old Dominion Athletic Conference just beating out conference mate Eastern Mennonite.

They also finished above the 2023 Division 3 CWS Champions University of Lynchburg among others.

(11-07-2023 04:31 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:46 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:23 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Iron College?

For the curious--- last season Ferrum finish near the bottom of The Old Dominion Athletic Conference just beating out conference mate Eastern Mennonite.

They also finished above the 2023 Division 3 CWS Champions University of Lynchburg among others.

Are you really propping up a D-III school that a conference member should have never scheduled during the regular season? Now that's hilarious.

(11-07-2023 04:31 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 04:30 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:46 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:23 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Iron College?

For the curious--- last season Ferrum finish near the bottom of The Old Dominion Athletic Conference just beating out conference mate Eastern Mennonite.

I just looked and they finished above 4 teams. Really weird to lie about where a D3 team finished in the basketball standings.

Not as weird as pretending that a well-documented SOS ranking doesn't measure SOS.

It’s not SOS it’s a metric of how many really good teams you play. If you don’t understand the difference that’s on you and you don’t need to follow me around talking about it.

(11-07-2023 04:32 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 04:31 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:46 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  

(11-07-2023 11:23 AM)Tigers2B1 Wrote:  Iron College?

For the curious--- last season Ferrum finish near the bottom of The Old Dominion Athletic Conference just beating out conference mate Eastern Mennonite.

They also finished above the 2023 Division 3 CWS Champions University of Lynchburg among others.

Are you really propping up a D-III school that a conference member should have never scheduled during the regular season? Now that's hilarious.

No, just discussing the ODAC. You’ll find I said last night that there are D3 teams that would beat Ferrum by 50.