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Did the author of that tweet just now realize what NIL is?

I saw this today regarding the impacts/options that NIL has brought about that I didn't foresee. It seems to be excerpts from the article with some editorials mixed in. Unique circumstances at this service academy.

Quote:5 January 2024
NAVAL ACADEMY ATHLETES
MIDN 1/C Jacob Busic, USN enters transfer portal after being denied fifth year of Navy Football
2 Jan 24 – The Capital Gazette – Opinion: Bill Wagner
From the article:
Jacob Busic did not want to enter the NCAA transfer portal.
In an ideal world, Busic would complete his college football career by playing one more season for Navy. He would then graduate and commission in December before embarking on a service career in the Marine Corps.
Because of current Naval Academy policy, that scenario will not happen.
Busic has been forced to make a choice: Graduate from the Naval Academy and commission as a Marine Corps officer in May, or transfer to a civilian school and play two more seasons of college football.
Busic has 2 more years of eligibility because he saw no varsity action as a Plebe and played in only 4 games last season due to injury – that gives him one year. The second is due to the pandemic affected 2020 season.
Busic “could pursue a master’s degree while recovering the two seasons of college football he missed.”
Busic:
“There is no harm in putting my name out there and seeing what offers I get. It doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m leaving the academy. I’m just keeping my options open and seeing what’s out there.”
“To put five years into the Naval Academy and wind up not graduating and commissioning would be really, really difficult. I don’t know if I would be able to give that up,”
Ed:
- So Join the Corps in 2024 or get a Masters and play two more years of college football. What’s most important?
- It appears that the decision to go Corps is based upon getting a good football offer – or he wouldn’t have entered the Portal.
- Reminder – Busic was a team captain last season. Entered USNA from NAPS.
More from the article:
“Factoring into the equation is the fact Busic would be required to pay back a portion of the cost of his Naval Academy education,which could be hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Busic:
“It’s obviously a lot of money. That’s why it’s so hard to make the decision to transfer.”
Article:
“It is possible that a Power Five football program could offer Busic enough name, image and likeness money to help with repayment. A two-year scholarship would also cover the cost of graduate school.”
“So Busic is listening to the offers to determine if it makes sense to transfer.”
Ed:
So, it’s a “money” thing. If he gets enough he transfers. If he doesn’t he goes Corps.
Army and Air Force have different rules. They are “granting an extra year of eligibility in cases of injury or hardship.”

More at:
https://www.capitalgazette.com/2023/12/3...JRVyivqA74

(01-08-2024 12:19 PM)DevilDawg Wrote:  I saw this today regarding the impacts/options that NIL has brought about that I didn't foresee. It seems to be excerpts from the article with some editorials mixed in. Unique circumstances at this service academy.

Quote:5 January 2024
NAVAL ACADEMY ATHLETES
MIDN 1/C Jacob Busic, USN enters transfer portal after being denied fifth year of Navy Football
2 Jan 24 – The Capital Gazette – Opinion: Bill Wagner
From the article:
Jacob Busic did not want to enter the NCAA transfer portal.
In an ideal world, Busic would complete his college football career by playing one more season for Navy. He would then graduate and commission in December before embarking on a service career in the Marine Corps.
Because of current Naval Academy policy, that scenario will not happen.
Busic has been forced to make a choice: Graduate from the Naval Academy and commission as a Marine Corps officer in May, or transfer to a civilian school and play two more seasons of college football.
Busic has 2 more years of eligibility because he saw no varsity action as a Plebe and played in only 4 games last season due to injury – that gives him one year. The second is due to the pandemic affected 2020 season.
Busic “could pursue a master’s degree while recovering the two seasons of college football he missed.”
Busic:
“There is no harm in putting my name out there and seeing what offers I get. It doesn’t necessarily mean that I’m leaving the academy. I’m just keeping my options open and seeing what’s out there.”
“To put five years into the Naval Academy and wind up not graduating and commissioning would be really, really difficult. I don’t know if I would be able to give that up,”
Ed:
- So Join the Corps in 2024 or get a Masters and play two more years of college football. What’s most important?
- It appears that the decision to go Corps is based upon getting a good football offer – or he wouldn’t have entered the Portal.
- Reminder – Busic was a team captain last season. Entered USNA from NAPS.
More from the article:
“Factoring into the equation is the fact Busic would be required to pay back a portion of the cost of his Naval Academy education,which could be hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Busic:
“It’s obviously a lot of money. That’s why it’s so hard to make the decision to transfer.”
Article:
“It is possible that a Power Five football program could offer Busic enough name, image and likeness money to help with repayment. A two-year scholarship would also cover the cost of graduate school.”
“So Busic is listening to the offers to determine if it makes sense to transfer.”
Ed:
So, it’s a “money” thing. If he gets enough he transfers. If he doesn’t he goes Corps.
Army and Air Force have different rules. They are “granting an extra year of eligibility in cases of injury or hardship.”

More at:
https://www.capitalgazette.com/2023/12/3...JRVyivqA74

He chose UCLA, nice to see they had enough cash to help this DE cover his obligations to the government for leaving early. Now if only the NCAA found a way to have schools repay others for poaching their talent, kind of like the baseball teams posting for the rights to a player from Japan.

https://ucla.rivals.com/news/report-form...ed-to-ucla

(01-08-2024 01:12 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  He chose UCLA, nice to see they had enough cash to help this DE cover his obligations to the government for leaving early. Now if only the NCAA found a way to have schools repay others for poaching their talent, kind of like the baseball teams posting for the rights to a player from Japan.

https://ucla.rivals.com/news/report-form...ed-to-ucla

Something like transfer fees in professional soccer?
I can't say that I know what entitles a club to a transfer fee when a player wants to go to another club. Or another club is interested in that player.
I believe this also exists at the academy level.

(01-08-2024 01:38 PM)DevilDawg Wrote:  

(01-08-2024 01:12 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  He chose UCLA, nice to see they had enough cash to help this DE cover his obligations to the government for leaving early. Now if only the NCAA found a way to have schools repay others for poaching their talent, kind of like the baseball teams posting for the rights to a player from Japan.

https://ucla.rivals.com/news/report-form...ed-to-ucla

Something like transfer fees in professional soccer?
I can't say that I know what entitles a club to a transfer fee when a player wants to go to another club. Or another club is interested in that player.
I believe this also exists at the academy level.

Obviously it would never happen, but it could be one way to slow down the craziness brought on by the portal. Back in the day a player chose his highest offer, now instead of sitting and waiting for their time to come those recruits go to a “lesser program” because they can play right away, develop and then the big boys come back and poach them to plug in and fill immediate holes. You’ll never again see a player doing well here and exhausting their eligibility without testing the waters, a mid major or G5 is nothing more than a feeder for the bigger programs.

(01-08-2024 01:38 PM)DevilDawg Wrote:  

(01-08-2024 01:12 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  He chose UCLA, nice to see they had enough cash to help this DE cover his obligations to the government for leaving early. Now if only the NCAA found a way to have schools repay others for poaching their talent, kind of like the baseball teams posting for the rights to a player from Japan.

https://ucla.rivals.com/news/report-form...ed-to-ucla

Something like transfer fees in professional soccer?
I can't say that I know what entitles a club to a transfer fee when a player wants to go to another club. Or another club is interested in that player.
I believe this also exists at the academy level.

I'm pretty sure that transfer fees (even at the academy/youth club level) are based on a player being under contract. If things keep evolving to the point where players are signing 1-4 year contracts to play, backed by NIL or other payments, then I could totally see the transfer market popping up as a cottage industry. JMU would of course be a selling club for now as a G5, but even some selling clubs (Ajax and Porto for example) can be big clubs and compete to win the top titles.

The best way to think about all this in the current environment to me is......it is just business, keep it in-personal and don't develop connections.

(01-09-2024 09:24 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  The best way to think about all this in the current environment to me is......it is just business, keep it in-personal and don't develop connections.

Then you are removing part of what makes college athletics meaningful. And in the end people moving their interests elsewhere is also just business

While cliche, I donate to DC and MC for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. I love my school getting the attention nationally that I've felt it has always deserved. While I am frustrated by the lack of control over NIL and rampant tampering, I try to keep the main thing the main thing, I love JMU.

(01-09-2024 09:32 AM)CarRamrod Wrote:  While cliche, I donate to DC and MC for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. I love my school getting the attention nationally that I've felt it has always deserved. While I am frustrated by the lack of control over NIL and rampant tampering, I try to keep the main thing the main thing, I love JMU.

Except the donations to the Duke Club are for the name on the front, while the Montpelier Collective is for the name on the back.

(01-09-2024 09:24 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  The best way to think about all this in the current environment to me is......it is just business, keep it in-personal and don't develop connections.

Grammar Police is disappointed in you, ShadyP. We believe you should have written impersonal, as "in-personal" is not a thing.

Please revise and resubmit.

(01-09-2024 09:48 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(01-09-2024 09:32 AM)CarRamrod Wrote:  While cliche, I donate to DC and MC for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. I love my school getting the attention nationally that I've felt it has always deserved. While I am frustrated by the lack of control over NIL and rampant tampering, I try to keep the main thing the main thing, I love JMU.

Except the donation to the Duke Club are for the name on the front, while the Montpelier Collective is for the name on the back.

Indirectly MC is both. Better talent leads to more winning, which promotes the University and drives growth.

MC while a legally separate entity, is pretty joined at the hip to JMU if you look at the people managing it. Everything is coordinated to the degree legally permitted. Should the rules change in the future, it could someday be brought fully “in house.” That could happen under some of the NCAA proposals being debated.

This is not the case everywhere with NIL fwiw. Quite a few collectives have their own agendas, and in some cases even reportedly clash with the wishes of the school they are supporting.

(01-09-2024 09:48 AM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  

(01-09-2024 09:32 AM)CarRamrod Wrote:  While cliche, I donate to DC and MC for the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. I love my school getting the attention nationally that I've felt it has always deserved. While I am frustrated by the lack of control over NIL and rampant tampering, I try to keep the main thing the main thing, I love JMU.

Except the donations to the Duke Club are for the name on the front, while the Montpelier Collective is for the name on the back.

True, but if MC is doing what they say and using it to reward our Dukes for excellent performance, I'm all for that. I know some want MC playing in the portal but I'd like to see MC only do that in rare, desperate circumstances. I am pro-NIL but only in the sense of rewarding students at your school and allowing them to gain revenue that they are helping generate. Because the NCAA, in all their infinite wisdom had no plan when they were forced to allow NIL, it's become much more than that obviously.

@ OP, --sigh--, with you again this week

(02-08-2024 03:22 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

I loved this comment:
"Elon Musk should pay 8 great bb players 1 billion each for year to play basketball at Eastern Butthead St. Win the championship. NIL over.
"

Funniest NIL thing I've heard is that Baylor's Daria Littlepage-Buggs and Jeremy Roach signed one to represent...a pest control company.

JMU is a stepping stone in many aspects. If you're a professor at a 500-student private college in Kentucky making public school teacher wages, landing a tenure-track job at JMU is a step up. And if you're faculty at JMU, a job at an AAU school might be a move up in terms of salary and resources. Difference is, now we're seeing that in athletics due to the university's investments and our conference change.

So, yes, I think until the day comes that we compete at the highest levels of college athletics, if it ever does (and maybe it shouldn't), then we're going to be a stepping stone. Hell, P5s are stepping stones. P5 coaches go from major program to major program. You all watch ESPN just like I do.

(02-08-2024 03:22 PM)JMU85 Wrote:  

Sheeeee-it. A good dog is a friend indeed. That man needs to get his priorities straight.