(04-18-2024 11:34 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  NAIA Georgia Gwinnett is finally adding men's & women's basketball.

https://victorysportsnetwork.com/2024/04...asketball/

For 2025-26. Ordinarily I wouldn't post this under conference realignment, but...


Georgia Gwinnett is already one of the biggest schools in the NAIA at about 11k students.


Some easy predictions:


They'll join a conference within a year. They are currently in the "independent" Continental Athletic Conference.


They'll join the NCAA within 5 years. Which division?  D2 seems obvious but at 11k they could probably go D1 if they wanted to. Rules currently forbid a direct jump, but what will the rules be 5 years from now?

Georgia Gwinnett was a junior college until recently. Until you mentioned this, I thought they only had 3 or 4 four year programs, but they do have more than that. I think it will take a while before they start thinking about NCAA.

(04-18-2024 04:34 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-18-2024 11:34 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  NAIA Georgia Gwinnett is finally adding men's & women's basketball.

https://victorysportsnetwork.com/2024/04...asketball/

For 2025-26. Ordinarily I wouldn't post this under conference realignment, but...


Georgia Gwinnett is already one of the biggest schools in the NAIA at about 11k students.


Some easy predictions:


They'll join a conference within a year. They are currently in the "independent" Continental Athletic Conference.


They'll join the NCAA within 5 years. Which division?  D2 seems obvious but at 11k they could probably go D1 if they wanted to. Rules currently forbid a direct jump, but what will the rules be 5 years from now?

Georgia Gwinnett was a junior college until recently. Until you mentioned this, I thought they only had 3 or 4 four year programs, but they do have more than that. I think it will take a while before they start thinking about NCAA.

They joined the NAIA in 2012. If you look at their academic programs they offer primarily bachelor's degrees. I can find no associates degrees. They do offer certifications and professional programs, but they are primarily bachelor's degrees. Their junior college days are long gone.

Good to see Georgia Gwinnett starting up basketball.

(04-18-2024 11:34 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  NAIA Georgia Gwinnett is finally adding men's & women's basketball.

https://victorysportsnetwork.com/2024/04...asketball/

For 2025-26. Ordinarily I wouldn't post this under conference realignment, but...

Georgia Gwinnett is already one of the biggest schools in the NAIA at about 11k students.

Some easy predictions:

They'll join a conference within a year. They are currently in the "independent" Continental Athletic Conference.

They'll join the NCAA within 5 years. Which division?  D2 seems obvious but at 11k they could probably go D1 if they wanted to. Rules currently forbid a direct jump, but what will the rules be 5 years from now?

Which conference do you think they will join outside the Continental?

(04-18-2024 07:32 PM)Mid-Major Hoops Enthusiast Wrote:  Good to see Georgia Gwinnett starting up basketball.

(04-18-2024 11:34 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  NAIA Georgia Gwinnett is finally adding men's & women's basketball.

https://victorysportsnetwork.com/2024/04...asketball/

For 2025-26. Ordinarily I wouldn't post this under conference realignment, but...

Georgia Gwinnett is already one of the biggest schools in the NAIA at about 11k students.

Some easy predictions:

They'll join a conference within a year. They are currently in the "independent" Continental Athletic Conference.

They'll join the NCAA within 5 years. Which division?  D2 seems obvious but at 11k they could probably go D1 if they wanted to. Rules currently forbid a direct jump, but what will the rules be 5 years from now?

Which conference do you think they will join outside the Continental?

Southern States Athletic Conference is my guess.

Hiram to the Presidents' Athletic Conference in 2025–26. https://hiramterriers.com/news/2024/4/23...o-pac.aspx

https://letuathletics.com/news/2024/4/25...25-26.aspx

LeTourneau gets invited to the SCAC. I’m actually very surprised. Probably the least attractive candidate of the remaining ASC schools but very excited for the school.

St. Katherine (NAIA) appears to be closing. https://twitter.com/USKmbb/status/1783659584584143193

(04-23-2024 01:05 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  Hiram to the Presidents' Athletic Conference in 2025–26. https://hiramterriers.com/news/2024/4/23...o-pac.aspx

Interesting. So that’s why the NCAC wanted John Carroll

(04-25-2024 08:06 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  St. Katherine (NAIA) appears to be closing. https://twitter.com/USKmbb/status/1783659584584143193

That’s a shame. It’s really hard to start up a school, especially in an expensive area like Southern California. They never did have a good facilities situation either.

It was the only (I believe) Orthodox Christian college in the US that wasn’t a seminary. I hoped they would have the funding to get beyond startup phase. They were founded in 2010.

(04-25-2024 10:16 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 08:06 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  St. Katherine (NAIA) appears to be closing. https://twitter.com/USKmbb/status/1783659584584143193

That’s a shame. It’s really hard to start up a school, especially in an expensive area like Southern California. They never did have a good facilities situation either.

It was the only (I believe) Orthodox Christian college in the US that wasn’t a seminary. I hoped they would have the funding to get beyond startup phase. They were founded in 2010.

So, what will the CALPAC do now? It will be down to 7 schools, 5 for Basketball after Cal-Merced changes conferences?

(04-26-2024 08:27 AM)realignmentreport Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 10:16 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 08:06 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  St. Katherine (NAIA) appears to be closing. https://twitter.com/USKmbb/status/1783659584584143193

That’s a shame. It’s really hard to start up a school, especially in an expensive area like Southern California. They never did have a good facilities situation either.

It was the only (I believe) Orthodox Christian college in the US that wasn’t a seminary. I hoped they would have the funding to get beyond startup phase. They were founded in 2010.

So, what will the CALPAC do now? It will be down to 7 schools, 5 for Basketball after Cal-Merced changes conferences?

Good question. This year alone has been a real wipeout. Go back a few years and it’s even worse.

There are some schools floating around who are potential members now that the NAIA allows ABHE and TRACS. San Diego Christian could restart athletics and head there to keep expenses low. Justice College is Arizona is a possibility, but I’d say they are shaky and unprepared currently. There are a few options for the CalPac, but none are very good.

Bethesda is probably the best option.

(04-26-2024 08:27 AM)realignmentreport Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 10:16 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 08:06 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  St. Katherine (NAIA) appears to be closing. https://twitter.com/USKmbb/status/1783659584584143193

That’s a shame. It’s really hard to start up a school, especially in an expensive area like Southern California. They never did have a good facilities situation either.

It was the only (I believe) Orthodox Christian college in the US that wasn’t a seminary. I hoped they would have the funding to get beyond startup phase. They were founded in 2010.

So, what will the CALPAC do now? It will be down to 7 schools, 5 for Basketball after Cal-Merced changes conferences?

St. Katherine was going to leave for the GSAC after this season, so this doesn't really change anything for the Cal Pac.

(04-25-2024 08:06 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  St. Katherine (NAIA) appears to be closing. https://twitter.com/USKmbb/status/1783659584584143193

And I thought Antelope Valley was given short notice. Talk about coming out of nowhere.

Saint Katherine was a small eastern orthodox school with roughly 240 students last semester. Around 85% of their enrollment were student athletes. Hopefully they find a place to land after this untimely situation.

(04-26-2024 09:15 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  Bethesda is probably the best option.

Aren't Stanton aiming to join NAIA soon after getting their program off the ground?

(04-26-2024 02:17 PM)Mid-Major Hoops Enthusiast Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 08:06 PM)Inkblot Wrote:  St. Katherine (NAIA) appears to be closing. https://twitter.com/USKmbb/status/1783659584584143193

And I thought Antelope Valley was given short notice. Talk about coming out of nowhere.

Saint Katherine was a small eastern orthodox school with roughly 240 students last semester. Around 85% of their enrollment were student athletes. Hopefully they find a place to land after this untimely situation.

(04-26-2024 09:15 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  Bethesda is probably the best option.

Aren't Stanton aiming to join NAIA soon after getting their program off the ground?

Perhaps that’s their aim, but they are still an extremely new athletic program. IMO, they are still a few years away. But that hasn’t stopped some others, so nothing is impossible.

But I’m pretty leery about any school that appears to be operated out of rented office space.

(04-26-2024 02:50 PM)Todor Wrote:  Perhaps that’s their aim, but they are still an extremely new athletic program. IMO, they are still a few years away. But that hasn’t stopped some others, so nothing is impossible.

But I’m pretty leery about any school that appears to be operated out of rented office space.

Fair enough point. I guess the other question would be does the GSAC look to take yet another school from the Cal-Pac now or are they happy with 8?

(04-26-2024 03:24 PM)Mid-Major Hoops Enthusiast Wrote:  

(04-26-2024 02:50 PM)Todor Wrote:  Perhaps that’s their aim, but they are still an extremely new athletic program. IMO, they are still a few years away. But that hasn’t stopped some others, so nothing is impossible.

But I’m pretty leery about any school that appears to be operated out of rented office space.

Fair enough point. I guess the other question would be does the GSAC look to take yet another school from the Cal-Pac now or are they happy with 8?

This is just an outside observer guess-

I think unless the GSAC was willing to take all of the CalPac (and they would not) then they will not accept any more applicants from the CalPac if it means reducing it to a non viable state. One NAIA conference in that part of the country is not enough. In order to preserve both conferences if possible, I believe the NAIA national office would encourage cooperation and coexistence. I seriously doubt there is any animosity between the conferences or members.

But this is only a guess on my part, and just an opinion based on what I do know about NAIA affairs from knowing it for a good number of years.

For-profit and proprietary colleges continue to take a real beating.

The 136 year old Mountain State College in West Virginia closed at the end of March. It was a private, for profit technical and trade school. Side note- It was unrelated to Mountain State University, which was actually named Beckley College for most of its life, and The College of West Virginia for a decade before settling on its final name.

Amazingly, the president of the college has been an employee there for 50 years, and plans to retire now. That’s so amazing that at a very small college like that, virtually every student who has attended for the last half century would know that lady. Not something that’s common in today’s world.

https://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/bus...its-doors/

The North Coast College in the Cleveland, Ohio area announced it is closing recently as well. August 30 will be the end of its final term. It was founded as a fashion design and merchandising school and expanded into a limited number of other majors, primarily in the art and design realm. It had a steady enrollment for most of its history but never recovered from the pandemic. Their education/majors are especially dependent on live, in person instruction.

https://www.wosu.org/2024-04-16/the-nort...%20region.

I wondering if Community Christian College be renamed to something like California Christian College since it seemed they withdrew from the NJCAA for the California school since they can't get people to schedule them. They do have TRACs, and joining the NAIA could help them out since they were the only California school in the NJCAA.

Wells College closed.