(02-29-2024 08:20 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  The fact that Butler is still being mentioned as a team ahead of us on the bubble is a joke, and a damning indictment of the system.

What a resume they have:

D1 record 15-13
Net 68
Q1: 3-11
Road record : 3-7
9th place in big east

Oh, and there’s that small matter of them losing by 20 at Michigan State a week after we beat them.

I hate that teams get rewarded simply for playing other good teams, no matter the result. You have to win more than a couple of those dozens of opportunities you get for it to mean anything. Just taking a bunch of L’s from good teams simply proves that you’ll likely take an L against a good team in the tourney.

I’d be furious if Butler got in over us.

9th place and the two teams below them are a combined 2-32 in the Big East.

(02-29-2024 08:41 AM)JMU85 Wrote:  

(02-29-2024 08:20 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  The fact that Butler is still being mentioned as a team ahead of us on the bubble is a joke, and a damning indictment of the system.

What a resume they have:

D1 record 15-13
Net 68
Q1: 3-11
Road record : 3-7
9th place in big east

Oh, and there’s that small matter of them losing by 20 at Michigan State a week after we beat them.

I hate that teams get rewarded simply for playing other good teams, no matter the result. You have to win more than a couple of those dozens of opportunities you get for it to mean anything. Just taking a bunch of L’s from good teams simply proves that you’ll likely take an L against a good team in the tourney.

I’d be furious if Butler got in over us.

9th place and the two teams below them are a combined 2-32 in the Big East.

exactly.

the fact that they are still even in the conversation shows what a joke the process is.

if JMU doesn't get in, fine. But no way hell Butler should get in.

and to think they are actually seriously considering going to 96 where a very much average Butler team would be a lock to get in.

Lots of people talking about going to somewhere in between 68 and 96, like 76. In that case if you look at Joe Lunardi we would still not be in which is ridiculous.

This is what I mean about our "work to do" opportunities vs power conf teams. The bubble watch casts a wide net, and Butler is on there because if they win out, and beat a couple ranked BE teams on their way to their tourney semi-finals, they WOULD get in ahead of us. But as it stands now I'm sure they wouldn't.

There are only 8 slots for the 20 work-to-do teams, so the majority aren't getting in.

As I pointed out earlier, I'm sure most if not all 28+ win teams either won their tourney OR the regular season in their conf. How many one-bid teams have lost both with a record like that? JMU needed to be at least covering the spreads and ideally blowing teams out to aid the cause.

This is a great group of kids, hope they make it.

how do you fix the "system"?

you limit how many ooc home games a team can have. most teams schedule about 12 ooc games. the power 5s have 9 home games, 2/3 neutral ct and maybe 1 away game. put a cap of 7 ooc home games. maybe the p5s create a bunch of neutral court games. but you get the idea. force these teams to play some ooc road games. even if these teams were forced to play 1 more road ooc game, it would create opportunities for mids to get home games. it would be great for college basketball and would be a step toward leveling the playing field.

another frustrating item.

If you have 10 bubble teams for 4 spots. 5 p5s and 5 middies. why do the p5s always get the nod and the 4 slots? c'mon man. take 2 and 2.

the mids never get the benefit of the doubt.

(02-29-2024 11:01 AM)PGJMU Wrote:  how do you fix the "system"?

you limit how many ooc home games a team can have. most teams schedule about 12 ooc games. the power 5s have 9 home games, 2/3 neutral ct and maybe 1 away game. put a cap of 7 ooc home games. maybe the p5s create a bunch of neutral court games. but you get the idea. force these teams to play some ooc road games. even if these teams were forced to play 1 more road ooc game, it would create opportunities for mids to get home games. it would be great for college basketball and would be a step toward leveling the playing field.

Duke is usually the poster child for a lopsided home schedule (I realize they are not a bubble team). And many other P5s are similar in their scheduling. This season is no different. Duke played 9 OOC home games, 1 on the road and 2 neutral site games. In college basketball, home court is a huge advantage if you have a decent fan base. And of importance as well, is the ability to dodge playing a true road game by scheduling neutral court contests.

The system is quite flawed and unfair.

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(02-29-2024 11:01 AM)PGJMU Wrote:  how do you fix the "system"?

you limit how many ooc home games a team can have. most teams schedule about 12 ooc games. the power 5s have 9 home games, 2/3 neutral ct and maybe 1 away game. put a cap of 7 ooc home games. maybe the p5s create a bunch of neutral court games. but you get the idea. force these teams to play some ooc road games. even if these teams were forced to play 1 more road ooc game, it would create opportunities for mids to get home games. it would be great for college basketball and would be a step toward leveling the playing field.

I think you make it like the old European football cup competitions where 'away goals' or in this case 'away wins' are worth double in the NET score algorithm. It would force teams to consider scheduling more away games to drive that number up (both for bubble teams and high seed aspirations). It would also add some equity to the game by moving some big money matchups to away matches.

This would of course require the blue bloods to give up a few game of revenue to get there but it would be great for the health of the NCAA overall.

Lunardi and bilas each year set their bracket. Then Cinderellas come out and dominate each year.
Bilas: this makes college basketball awesome
Lunardi: omg Cinderella story makes march madness

Those two are idiots.
1)it wasn’t an upset those teams are legit
2)bring more mid majors on to show up
3) if you feel if it’s an upset then level the field

F Lunardi. And more so F that bag of ass Bilas.

(03-01-2024 10:18 PM)Navyduke 07 Wrote:  F Lunardi. And more so F that bag of ass Bilas.

And F Richmond.

John Fanta @ Fox Sports gets it.