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David McKenzie is an attorney in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area. He specializes in intellectual property law and can be reached at david@mckenzielaw.net.

This article explores the intricate legal battles between Florida State University (FSU) and the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC), shedding light on FSU’s considerable challenges and the ACC’s robust legal standing in the lawsuits. Designed for accessibility, it provides a detailed breakdown of the pivotal intellectual property issues and contractual obligations that are at the forefront of these high-profile cases in Leon CountFSU v. The ACC (Leon County, FL)

1. FSU’s Misunderstanding of Copyright Law

FSU’s approach to challenging the Grant of Rights (GOR) ignores the key principles of copyright law. When FSU licensed its media rights to the ACC, it effectively agreed to specific terms regarding the use and control of these rights. The notion that FSU can retroactively challenge its agreement, because the financial rewards are now seen as unfavorable, reflects a misunderstanding of how copyright licensing works. Copyright law doesn’t provide an avenue for licensors to rescind their rights based solely on a change in market conditions or the realization that a deal is a bad one.

2. Failure to Acknowledge Voluntary Agreement

A fatal flaw in FSU’s Leon County lawsuit is its complete failure to acknowledge that the university willingly entered into the GOR, not once but twice. FSU not only agreed to the initial terms but also reaffirmed its commitment through a subsequent amendment. This casts serious doubt on any argument that any GOR is inherently unfair or one-sided. Additionally, there is no record of FSU proposing to return the millions it received under either GOR, which further detracts from any arguments of inequity. Although one might speculate about FSU’s ability to return the millions received, even if it desired to do so, the crucial point remains: the ACC holds two distinct contract signatures from two FSU presidents.


Florida State University President Eric Barron’s 2013 GOR Signature


Florida State University President John Thrasher’s 2016 GOR Signature

3. Lack of Valid Contractual Defenses

FSU’s complaint largely hinges on the claim that the GOR is a bad deal. However, merely entering into a bad deal is not a valid ground for voiding a contract. Completely absent from FSU’s complaint are traditional contract defenses such as fraud, duress, or misrepresentation, which are typically required to challenge the validity of a contract. (See Fn. 1, below.)

4. Over Reliance on Antitrust Arguments

FSU’s lawsuit heavily relies on the premise that the GOR and its associated penalties violate antitrust laws. But antitrust laws are designed to protect competition from harmful monopolies and unfair business practices, not shield parties from bad deals made with full knowledge and consent. FSU’s complaint in Florida primarily revolves around regret over a deal that has become financially less favorable over time— that is, it’s just a bad deal, and competition is not harmed despite FSU’s regret.

Moreover, state antitrust laws cannot override the well-established principles of federal copyright law. Indeed, FSU’s antitrust position flatly disregards the robustness of federal copyright law, which firmly governs the terms of the GOR as a copyright license. By invoking state antitrust complaints, FSU is not just reaching for an unlikely legal remedy; it is misapplying these laws in a context where they are arguably irrelevant. Ultimately, FSU’s emphasis on antitrust arguments may be a diversionary tactic, possibly aimed at shifting focus away from the more challenging task of proving traditional contract defenses.

Ironically, FSU does not challenge the inherently anticompetitive system of collegiate athletics itself – which on its face is an exceedingly closed system of competition – where schools like Appalachian State and East Carolina have near-impossible odds at joining a major conference like the ACC, a practice which arguably violates the very antitrust principles FSU now invokes.

Here, FSU’s state school brethren in University of South Florida, Florida International University, Florida Atlantic University, and the University of Central Florida should take keen notice of the state statutory construction FSU now employs. If FSU can use Florida antitrust law to bust out of the ACC on Florida antitrust grounds, then, following FSU’s logic, UCF, FAU, FIU, and USF should be allowed to burst into it. What is good for a Florida goose is also good for a Florida gander, after all. (See Fn. 2, below.)

5. What About the Exit Fee?

I harbor deep skepticism about Florida State University’s calculation of its exit fee from the ACC. FSU’s legal strategy inflates this fee by amalgamating the value of media rights pledged (not forfeited) under the GOR with unreimbursed broadcast fees and a genuine exit fee. That’s $130 million (exit fee) plus $13 million (broadcast fees) plus an estimated $429 million (media rights). The total, a staggering $572 million, misleadingly conflates separate contractual elements, and is an obvious attempt to take what is fundamentally a question of intellectual property licensing and supplant it with one having to do with antitrust law.

Intellectual property holders commonly assign rights like copyrights, trademarks, and patents for specific durations and fees. This inherent value within the deal never translates to an “exit fee.” It’s just the value of the deal. To construe the pledged intellectual property, valued at $429 million, as a penalty in contract is not only legally unsound but could also severely damage FSU’s credibility as a reliable party in future licensing agreements. If market conditions dictate the terms of an IP license, no one would risk entering an agreement with FSU, fearing arbitrary redefinitions of contract terms based on FSU’s displeasure in a change in market conditions and the money FSU was receiving. Ask Disney, Netflix, Fox, WRAL, or any entertainment provider, and it will tell you that is not how IP licensing works.

Better yet, imagine buying two Taylor Swift tickets, one for last year and one for next, where you pay the same amount for both to secure your spot at both stadiums. Now picture Taylor, after taking your money, suddenly throwing a tantrum and threatening to skip next year’s show because ticket prices for, say, Beyoncé goes up. Now imagine Taylor, after accepting your payment and not offering to give any money back, unilaterally demanding a steep price hike for next year’s performance. Your gut response of “that’s absurd” is justifiable. But that is essentially what FSU is trying to do with the GOR and the exit fee— reneging on a previous agreement based on buyer’s remorse, not antitrust law, and because of a change in market conditions.

As for the actual exit fee of $130 million, this figure, contrary to being excessive, is probably fair. It likely accurately reflects, if not underestimates, the real economic impact and loss the ACC and its member institutions would suffer from FSU’s departure. Liquidated damages, though required to reflect actual damages and not act as a penalty, in this case seem within a reasonable estimation of the ACC’s losses.

All in all, FSU’s lawsuit against the ACC appears to be more about escaping a bad deal than addressing clear-cut legal violations. It shows a misunderstanding of copyright law, lacks any meaningful contract defenses, and makes strained antitrust arguments. FSU may have a conceivable beef with the raw exit fee, not the money tied to the GOR (an entirely separate issue tied to licensed intellectual property as opposed to a contract penalty), but I would not encourage anyone to think that FSU has a strong case.

ACC v. FSU (Mecklenburg County, NC)

Conversely, I think this case is pretty strong, especially in the context of the ACC’s equitable claims. Let’s start with the basics.

Basic Contract Law
The ACC’s entire complaint hinges on the principle that FSU, by virtue of its long-term membership, has reaped substantial benefits from the ACC. By now attempting to breach the agreements it willingly entered into, not once but twice, FSU is contravening its foundational commitments that have underpinned its relationship with the ACC for over 30 years. This is a pretty basic contract law.

2. ACC’s View of the Grant of Rights

While here I could go on for pages, and while I acknowledge the ACC does not say as much in its amended complaint, the GOR is about intellectual property, plain and simple, and IP is something that can be licensed and pledged just like any property we hold or sell.

FSU committed its intellectual property to the ACC to be exploited, and there is no mechanism under the Copyright Act to simply withdraw a copyright license because of a change in market conditions. (There actually is an obscure but meaningful exception here, but it pertains to the transfer of an author’s copyright that wasn’t a work for hire and is only applicable after 35 years from the date of transfer (17 U.S.C. § 203). If Congress intended to make a similar exception for a GOR in college football, it would have done so. By my count, we are in year eight.)

Otherwise, the ACC does complain that FSU’s commitment to the GOR first in 2013 and then again in 2016 allowed the ACC to negotiate more effectively with media partners like ESPN. It was a communal approach FSU agreed to. This collective approach, as opposed to individual negotiations by each member, led to the creation of the ACC Network, providing a stable and enhanced revenue stream to all members, including Florida State University. FSU’s participation in this agreement was a strategic move to maximize its media revenues. It can’t invalidate the GOR or, especially, yank its IP simply because, now, it realizes it entered a bad deal. Put simply, that is not how the Copyright Act or basic contracting works.

3. Acceptance, and Then Breach

By explicitly agreeing to the GOR’s “irrevocable” and “exclusive” terms, not once but twice, FSU entered a binding contractual commitment with the ACC. Through both its Leon County lawsuit and the actions of its Board of Trustees, the ACC argues that FSU has demonstrably contradicted its previous acceptance of these terms and the substantial financial benefits it has received, including increased TV revenue and ACC Network access. This constitutes a material breach of the contract, as FSU’s actions directly undermine the ACC’s reliance on its commitment and threaten the stability of the conference. The ACC’s lawsuit seeks to hold FSU accountable for this breach and ensure the continued enforcement of the mutually agreed-upon terms.

4. Equitable Estoppel and Waiver

This is the ACC’s best argument. This principle prevents a party from repudiating an agreement if they have previously accepted and enjoyed its benefits. In the ACC’s case, the conference asserts with merit that FSU has amassed millions in additional revenue under the GORs, including increased TV exposure through the ACC Network. The ACC argues that FSU, having banked substantial financial gains, is estopped from challenging the GOR’s validity. Here, the ACC has exposed FSU’s glaring hypocrisy. FSU’s actions are not just contractually untenable, but also fundamentally unjust if not also outrageous, given its prior acceptance and profiting from the very terms they are now contesting.

FSU’s challenge to the GOR, after more than a decade of enjoying its benefits, blatantly undermines the cornerstone principle of good faith in contractual relationships. FSU may not like the amount of money it has received, but that is no grounds to invalidate a contract, especially when FSU has already taken the money.

The Conspicuous Silence of Other ACC Members: A Calculated Caution

The conspicuous absence of any other ACC school joining FSU’s legal battle against the ACC is highly revealing. Despite rumors of pre-lawsuit discussions among several prominent members, including Miami, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and FSU itself, not one has followed FSU into a courtroom. The reason likely stems from a comprehensive legal analysis conducted by every ACC institution, leading to a recognition of the ACC’s strong legal position and the risks inherent in FSU’s approach. Choosing pragmatism, the other ACC schools benefit from sitting back and watching FSU’s gamble, opting for stability over legal skirmishes.

Practical Considerations

1. Preemptive Strike: The ACC’s Legal Chess Move Against FSU

The ACC’s decision to file its lawsuit against FSU one day before FSU’s own filing (December 21, 2023, vs. December 22, 2023) was a tactical move. It was not just reactive; it was prescient and strategic. The original discussions, negotiations, and crucial signings of the legally-binding Grant of Rights all took place in North Carolina. This detail alone creates a strong argument that any disputes arising under the GOR should be interpreted under North Carolina law and be resolved in its courts. This is particularly relevant when, as here, there is an absence of a specific jurisdiction and venue clause.

Furthermore, the ACC filed first because there is a “first to file” principle in the law that stands for the proposition that he who files first, gets to go first. Though this principle does not guarantee priority, it does allow the ACC to make the argument.

Also, filing an amended lawsuit is standard practice, especially within the first 30 days. Here, I do not for a second believe, as some have suggested, that the ACC had its lawsuit prepared and “ready to go” against Florida State. I have ample experience in preparing lawsuits, and if you look at the ACC’s initial complaint, it is quite good but neither great nor thorough. I am guessing the ACC’s lawyers cracked it out in a day or two with every expectation of amending and after receiving short notice of FSU’s plan to sue the ACC. The amended complaint, filed on January 19, 2024, is both great and thorough. It showcases the full strength of the ACC’s legal team, introduces compelling new arguments, bolsters claims with additional evidence, and refines the ACC’s approach.

2. What’s Next in the FSU vs. ACC Legal Battle

It would strain a reader’s credulity for this article to affirmatively predict what will happen next. I don’t know. Yet, there are some guesses to be made.

Practically, the Leon County, Florida, court should stay the proceedings in deference to the case pending in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. The pivotal events and signings related to the GOR happened in North Carolina, making it a more appropriate venue. Moreover, FSU can raise all its arguments, including antitrust claims, in a North Carolina court. While not dispositive or even predictive, the ACC did file first, and the “first to file” rule slightly militates in favor of the ACC’s case having priority.

Still, FSU’s lawsuit appears fundamentally weak. Its voluntary signing of the GOR twice, the financial benefits it reaped from these agreements, and the lack of substantial contract defenses manifest a remarkably weak position. This combination of factors might render FSU’s complaint so inadequate to warrant dismissal under Rule 12(b)(6) for failing to state a cognizable claim for relief.

Meanwhile, the ACC’s case, on the other hand, seems robust, particularly regarding the claims of equitable estoppel and waiver. These legal principles appear to form a formidable barrier to FSU’s attempts to challenge the GOR agreements it previously agreed to and benefited from.

Otherwise, my extensive experience in intellectual property law leads me to firmly believe that the Grant of Rights is a copyright license and not a restraint on trade. (I am not making this up; the GOR literally has a detailed “Copyright and License” section.) FSU’s attempt to reframe it as an exit fee and raise antitrust concerns directly undermines the fundamental principles of intellectual property licensing and should not be permitted. The success of intellectual property licensing hinges on the stability and predictability of legal agreements, which FSU’s arguments directly threaten to disrupt.

Moreover, Florida’s statutory antitrust law cannot override the provisions of the Copyright Act, which governs rights such as public performance– a central issue in this case. The specific rights and mechanisms for the ownership, transfer, and licensing of copyrights under federal law (e.g., 17 U.S.C. §§ 106, 201) must be considered.

Finally, while outside the scope of my legal expertise, it’s evident that business dynamics, particularly ESPN’s role, may resolve this dispute. ESPN currently benefits from a favorable deal providing extensive content at a good value. Any decision to alter the existing arrangements with the ACC would likely be driven by the prospect of securing an even more advantageous deal with major college football players. However, such moves would have to navigate complex and, here, legitimate antitrust considerations, especially for smaller schools seeking greater access to lucrative media deals.

Put simply, while legal factors heavily favor the ACC, the ultimate resolution of this dispute may well be influenced by business considerations, particularly the actions of major broadcasters like ESPN. The unfolding of this saga will be crucial not only for FSU and the ACC but also for the broader landscape of college athletics and media rights.

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Fn. 1: While FSU’s lawsuit does include a “Frustration of Contractual Purpose” claim, it is presented in a highly conclusory manner without substantive elaboration or application of fact to law. Such a defense typically applies in scenarios of nonperformance, inability to perform, or when unforeseen events drastically alter the essence of a contract, rendering performance meaningless for one party. In the case of FSU and the ACC, there has been no inability to perform under the GOR, and unforeseen events have not rendered FSU’s performance worthless. On the contrary, despite it being less financially advantageous compared to other conferences, the GOR has not been “worthless.” FSU has indeed derived considerable value, amounting to millions, from the agreement. Therefore, the invocation of “frustration of purpose” in this context is intellectually untenable, meriting no further discussion beyond this footnote.

Fn. 2: To this point regarding the interplay between antitrust and copyright, there is a giant elephant in the room, and that is copyright preemption. Essentially, copyright preemption means that state laws, including Florida’s antitrust statutes, cannot grant or enforce rights that fall within the scope of federal copyright law. 17 U.S.C. § 301. In the context of FSU’s case in Leon County, where the ownership and public performance rights of football games are being challenged under state antitrust law, copyright preemption becomes significant. If FSU’s arguments hinge on rights that are fundamentally copyright issues, such as the right to publicly perform the football games, then these arguments might be superseded by federal copyright law. This preemption would suggest that the Leon County court is not the appropriate venue for deciding issues that are essentially governed by federal copyright law. Thus, the case would require analysis under federal statutes and potentially be moved to a federal court with the proper jurisdiction to handle copyright disputes. This issue is altogether worthy of an entirely separate article.

Also worthy of a separate article are the claims that ESPN and, say, Wake Forest, as intended third-party beneficiaries of the GOR, have against Florida State. Both could suffer significant damages by way of FSU’s antics. This is particularly true for Wake Forest, whose financial stability could be dramatically impacted if FSU’s actions leave it dangling in Winston-Salem. The same is true for other ACC schools, but Wake Forest’s damages would be astronomical.y, Florida (Tallahassee) and Mecklenburg County, North Carolina (Charlotte).
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David McKenzie is an attorney in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area. He specializes in intellectual property law and can be reached at david@mckenzielaw.net.

This article explores the intricate legal battles between Florida State University (FSU) and the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC), shedding light on FSU’s considerable challenges and the ACC’s robust legal standing in the lawsuits. Designed for accessibility, it provides a detailed breakdown of the pivotal intellectual property issues and contractual obligations that are at the forefront of these high-profile cases in Leon CountFSU v. The ACC (Leon County, FL)

1. FSU’s Misunderstanding of Copyright Law

FSU’s approach to challenging the Grant of Rights (GOR) ignores the key principles of copyright law. When FSU licensed its media rights to the ACC, it effectively agreed to specific terms regarding the use and control of these rights. The notion that FSU can retroactively challenge its agreement, because the financial rewards are now seen as unfavorable, reflects a misunderstanding of how copyright licensing works. Copyright law doesn’t provide an avenue for licensors to rescind their rights based solely on a change in market conditions or the realization that a deal is a bad one.

2. Failure to Acknowledge Voluntary Agreement

A fatal flaw in FSU’s Leon County lawsuit is its complete failure to acknowledge that the university willingly entered into the GOR, not once but twice. FSU not only agreed to the initial terms but also reaffirmed its commitment through a subsequent amendment. This casts serious doubt on any argument that any GOR is inherently unfair or one-sided. Additionally, there is no record of FSU proposing to return the millions it received under either GOR, which further detracts from any arguments of inequity. Although one might speculate about FSU’s ability to return the millions received, even if it desired to do so, the crucial point remains: the ACC holds two distinct contract signatures from two FSU presidents.


Florida State University President Eric Barron’s 2013 GOR Signature


Florida State University President John Thrasher’s 2016 GOR Signature

3. Lack of Valid Contractual Defenses

FSU’s complaint largely hinges on the claim that the GOR is a bad deal. However, merely entering into a bad deal is not a valid ground for voiding a contract. Completely absent from FSU’s complaint are traditional contract defenses such as fraud, duress, or misrepresentation, which are typically required to challenge the validity of a contract. (See Fn. 1, below.)

4. Over Reliance on Antitrust Arguments

FSU’s lawsuit heavily relies on the premise that the GOR and its associated penalties violate antitrust laws. But antitrust laws are designed to protect competition from harmful monopolies and unfair business practices, not shield parties from bad deals made with full knowledge and consent. FSU’s complaint in Florida primarily revolves around regret over a deal that has become financially less favorable over time— that is, it’s just a bad deal, and competition is not harmed despite FSU’s regret.

Moreover, state antitrust laws cannot override the well-established principles of federal copyright law. Indeed, FSU’s antitrust position flatly disregards the robustness of federal copyright law, which firmly governs the terms of the GOR as a copyright license. By invoking state antitrust complaints, FSU is not just reaching for an unlikely legal remedy; it is misapplying these laws in a context where they are arguably irrelevant. Ultimately, FSU’s emphasis on antitrust arguments may be a diversionary tactic, possibly aimed at shifting focus away from the more challenging task of proving traditional contract defenses.

Ironically, FSU does not challenge the inherently anticompetitive system of collegiate athletics itself – which on its face is an exceedingly closed system of competition – where schools like Appalachian State and East Carolina have near-impossible odds at joining a major conference like the ACC, a practice which arguably violates the very antitrust principles FSU now invokes.

Here, FSU’s state school brethren in University of South Florida, Florida International University, Florida Atlantic University, and the University of Central Florida should take keen notice of the state statutory construction FSU now employs. If FSU can use Florida antitrust law to bust out of the ACC on Florida antitrust grounds, then, following FSU’s logic, UCF, FAU, FIU, and USF should be allowed to burst into it. What is good for a Florida goose is also good for a Florida gander, after all. (See Fn. 2, below.)

5. What About the Exit Fee?

I harbor deep skepticism about Florida State University’s calculation of its exit fee from the ACC. FSU’s legal strategy inflates this fee by amalgamating the value of media rights pledged (not forfeited) under the GOR with unreimbursed broadcast fees and a genuine exit fee. That’s $130 million (exit fee) plus $13 million (broadcast fees) plus an estimated $429 million (media rights). The total, a staggering $572 million, misleadingly conflates separate contractual elements, and is an obvious attempt to take what is fundamentally a question of intellectual property licensing and supplant it with one having to do with antitrust law.

Intellectual property holders commonly assign rights like copyrights, trademarks, and patents for specific durations and fees. This inherent value within the deal never translates to an “exit fee.” It’s just the value of the deal. To construe the pledged intellectual property, valued at $429 million, as a penalty in contract is not only legally unsound but could also severely damage FSU’s credibility as a reliable party in future licensing agreements. If market conditions dictate the terms of an IP license, no one would risk entering an agreement with FSU, fearing arbitrary redefinitions of contract terms based on FSU’s displeasure in a change in market conditions and the money FSU was receiving. Ask Disney, Netflix, Fox, WRAL, or any entertainment provider, and it will tell you that is not how IP licensing works.

Better yet, imagine buying two Taylor Swift tickets, one for last year and one for next, where you pay the same amount for both to secure your spot at both stadiums. Now picture Taylor, after taking your money, suddenly throwing a tantrum and threatening to skip next year’s show because ticket prices for, say, Beyoncé goes up. Now imagine Taylor, after accepting your payment and not offering to give any money back, unilaterally demanding a steep price hike for next year’s performance. Your gut response of “that’s absurd” is justifiable. But that is essentially what FSU is trying to do with the GOR and the exit fee— reneging on a previous agreement based on buyer’s remorse, not antitrust law, and because of a change in market conditions.

As for the actual exit fee of $130 million, this figure, contrary to being excessive, is probably fair. It likely accurately reflects, if not underestimates, the real economic impact and loss the ACC and its member institutions would suffer from FSU’s departure. Liquidated damages, though required to reflect actual damages and not act as a penalty, in this case seem within a reasonable estimation of the ACC’s losses.

All in all, FSU’s lawsuit against the ACC appears to be more about escaping a bad deal than addressing clear-cut legal violations. It shows a misunderstanding of copyright law, lacks any meaningful contract defenses, and makes strained antitrust arguments. FSU may have a conceivable beef with the raw exit fee, not the money tied to the GOR (an entirely separate issue tied to licensed intellectual property as opposed to a contract penalty), but I would not encourage anyone to think that FSU has a strong case.

ACC v. FSU (Mecklenburg County, NC)

Conversely, I think this case is pretty strong, especially in the context of the ACC’s equitable claims. Let’s start with the basics.

Basic Contract Law
The ACC’s entire complaint hinges on the principle that FSU, by virtue of its long-term membership, has reaped substantial benefits from the ACC. By now attempting to breach the agreements it willingly entered into, not once but twice, FSU is contravening its foundational commitments that have underpinned its relationship with the ACC for over 30 years. This is a pretty basic contract law.

2. ACC’s View of the Grant of Rights

While here I could go on for pages, and while I acknowledge the ACC does not say as much in its amended complaint, the GOR is about intellectual property, plain and simple, and IP is something that can be licensed and pledged just like any property we hold or sell.

FSU committed its intellectual property to the ACC to be exploited, and there is no mechanism under the Copyright Act to simply withdraw a copyright license because of a change in market conditions. (There actually is an obscure but meaningful exception here, but it pertains to the transfer of an author’s copyright that wasn’t a work for hire and is only applicable after 35 years from the date of transfer (17 U.S.C. § 203). If Congress intended to make a similar exception for a GOR in college football, it would have done so. By my count, we are in year eight.)

Otherwise, the ACC does complain that FSU’s commitment to the GOR first in 2013 and then again in 2016 allowed the ACC to negotiate more effectively with media partners like ESPN. It was a communal approach FSU agreed to. This collective approach, as opposed to individual negotiations by each member, led to the creation of the ACC Network, providing a stable and enhanced revenue stream to all members, including Florida State University. FSU’s participation in this agreement was a strategic move to maximize its media revenues. It can’t invalidate the GOR or, especially, yank its IP simply because, now, it realizes it entered a bad deal. Put simply, that is not how the Copyright Act or basic contracting works.

3. Acceptance, and Then Breach

By explicitly agreeing to the GOR’s “irrevocable” and “exclusive” terms, not once but twice, FSU entered a binding contractual commitment with the ACC. Through both its Leon County lawsuit and the actions of its Board of Trustees, the ACC argues that FSU has demonstrably contradicted its previous acceptance of these terms and the substantial financial benefits it has received, including increased TV revenue and ACC Network access. This constitutes a material breach of the contract, as FSU’s actions directly undermine the ACC’s reliance on its commitment and threaten the stability of the conference. The ACC’s lawsuit seeks to hold FSU accountable for this breach and ensure the continued enforcement of the mutually agreed-upon terms.

4. Equitable Estoppel and Waiver

This is the ACC’s best argument. This principle prevents a party from repudiating an agreement if they have previously accepted and enjoyed its benefits. In the ACC’s case, the conference asserts with merit that FSU has amassed millions in additional revenue under the GORs, including increased TV exposure through the ACC Network. The ACC argues that FSU, having banked substantial financial gains, is estopped from challenging the GOR’s validity. Here, the ACC has exposed FSU’s glaring hypocrisy. FSU’s actions are not just contractually untenable, but also fundamentally unjust if not also outrageous, given its prior acceptance and profiting from the very terms they are now contesting.

FSU’s challenge to the GOR, after more than a decade of enjoying its benefits, blatantly undermines the cornerstone principle of good faith in contractual relationships. FSU may not like the amount of money it has received, but that is no grounds to invalidate a contract, especially when FSU has already taken the money.

The Conspicuous Silence of Other ACC Members: A Calculated Caution

The conspicuous absence of any other ACC school joining FSU’s legal battle against the ACC is highly revealing. Despite rumors of pre-lawsuit discussions among several prominent members, including Miami, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and FSU itself, not one has followed FSU into a courtroom. The reason likely stems from a comprehensive legal analysis conducted by every ACC institution, leading to a recognition of the ACC’s strong legal position and the risks inherent in FSU’s approach. Choosing pragmatism, the other ACC schools benefit from sitting back and watching FSU’s gamble, opting for stability over legal skirmishes.

Practical Considerations

1. Preemptive Strike: The ACC’s Legal Chess Move Against FSU

The ACC’s decision to file its lawsuit against FSU one day before FSU’s own filing (December 21, 2023, vs. December 22, 2023) was a tactical move. It was not just reactive; it was prescient and strategic. The original discussions, negotiations, and crucial signings of the legally-binding Grant of Rights all took place in North Carolina. This detail alone creates a strong argument that any disputes arising under the GOR should be interpreted under North Carolina law and be resolved in its courts. This is particularly relevant when, as here, there is an absence of a specific jurisdiction and venue clause.

Furthermore, the ACC filed first because there is a “first to file” principle in the law that stands for the proposition that he who files first, gets to go first. Though this principle does not guarantee priority, it does allow the ACC to make the argument.

Also, filing an amended lawsuit is standard practice, especially within the first 30 days. Here, I do not for a second believe, as some have suggested, that the ACC had its lawsuit prepared and “ready to go” against Florida State. I have ample experience in preparing lawsuits, and if you look at the ACC’s initial complaint, it is quite good but neither great nor thorough. I am guessing the ACC’s lawyers cracked it out in a day or two with every expectation of amending and after receiving short notice of FSU’s plan to sue the ACC. The amended complaint, filed on January 19, 2024, is both great and thorough. It showcases the full strength of the ACC’s legal team, introduces compelling new arguments, bolsters claims with additional evidence, and refines the ACC’s approach.

2. What’s Next in the FSU vs. ACC Legal Battle

It would strain a reader’s credulity for this article to affirmatively predict what will happen next. I don’t know. Yet, there are some guesses to be made.

Practically, the Leon County, Florida, court should stay the proceedings in deference to the case pending in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. The pivotal events and signings related to the GOR happened in North Carolina, making it a more appropriate venue. Moreover, FSU can raise all its arguments, including antitrust claims, in a North Carolina court. While not dispositive or even predictive, the ACC did file first, and the “first to file” rule slightly militates in favor of the ACC’s case having priority.

Still, FSU’s lawsuit appears fundamentally weak. Its voluntary signing of the GOR twice, the financial benefits it reaped from these agreements, and the lack of substantial contract defenses manifest a remarkably weak position. This combination of factors might render FSU’s complaint so inadequate to warrant dismissal under Rule 12(b)(6) for failing to state a cognizable claim for relief.

Meanwhile, the ACC’s case, on the other hand, seems robust, particularly regarding the claims of equitable estoppel and waiver. These legal principles appear to form a formidable barrier to FSU’s attempts to challenge the GOR agreements it previously agreed to and benefited from.

Otherwise, my extensive experience in intellectual property law leads me to firmly believe that the Grant of Rights is a copyright license and not a restraint on trade. (I am not making this up; the GOR literally has a detailed “Copyright and License” section.) FSU’s attempt to reframe it as an exit fee and raise antitrust concerns directly undermines the fundamental principles of intellectual property licensing and should not be permitted. The success of intellectual property licensing hinges on the stability and predictability of legal agreements, which FSU’s arguments directly threaten to disrupt.

Moreover, Florida’s statutory antitrust law cannot override the provisions of the Copyright Act, which governs rights such as public performance– a central issue in this case. The specific rights and mechanisms for the ownership, transfer, and licensing of copyrights under federal law (e.g., 17 U.S.C. §§ 106, 201) must be considered.

Finally, while outside the scope of my legal expertise, it’s evident that business dynamics, particularly ESPN’s role, may resolve this dispute. ESPN currently benefits from a favorable deal providing extensive content at a good value. Any decision to alter the existing arrangements with the ACC would likely be driven by the prospect of securing an even more advantageous deal with major college football players. However, such moves would have to navigate complex and, here, legitimate antitrust considerations, especially for smaller schools seeking greater access to lucrative media deals.

Put simply, while legal factors heavily favor the ACC, the ultimate resolution of this dispute may well be influenced by business considerations, particularly the actions of major broadcasters like ESPN. The unfolding of this saga will be crucial not only for FSU and the ACC but also for the broader landscape of college athletics and media rights.

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Fn. 1: While FSU’s lawsuit does include a “Frustration of Contractual Purpose” claim, it is presented in a highly conclusory manner without substantive elaboration or application of fact to law. Such a defense typically applies in scenarios of nonperformance, inability to perform, or when unforeseen events drastically alter the essence of a contract, rendering performance meaningless for one party. In the case of FSU and the ACC, there has been no inability to perform under the GOR, and unforeseen events have not rendered FSU’s performance worthless. On the contrary, despite it being less financially advantageous compared to other conferences, the GOR has not been “worthless.” FSU has indeed derived considerable value, amounting to millions, from the agreement. Therefore, the invocation of “frustration of purpose” in this context is intellectually untenable, meriting no further discussion beyond this footnote.

Fn. 2: To this point regarding the interplay between antitrust and copyright, there is a giant elephant in the room, and that is copyright preemption. Essentially, copyright preemption means that state laws, including Florida’s antitrust statutes, cannot grant or enforce rights that fall within the scope of federal copyright law. 17 U.S.C. § 301. In the context of FSU’s case in Leon County, where the ownership and public performance rights of football games are being challenged under state antitrust law, copyright preemption becomes significant. If FSU’s arguments hinge on rights that are fundamentally copyright issues, such as the right to publicly perform the football games, then these arguments might be superseded by federal copyright law. This preemption would suggest that the Leon County court is not the appropriate venue for deciding issues that are essentially governed by federal copyright law. Thus, the case would require analysis under federal statutes and potentially be moved to a federal court with the proper jurisdiction to handle copyright disputes. This issue is altogether worthy of an entirely separate article.

Also worthy of a separate article are the claims that ESPN and, say, Wake Forest, as intended third-party beneficiaries of the GOR, have against Florida State. Both could suffer significant damages by way of FSU’s antics. This is particularly true for Wake Forest, whose financial stability could be dramatically impacted if FSU’s actions leave it dangling in Winston-Salem. The same is true for other ACC schools, but Wake Forest’s damages would be astronomical.y, Florida (Tallahassee) and Mecklenburg County, North Carolina (Charlotte).

Excellent find and analysis.

It's difficult to swallow just how stupid the legal part of FSU's shenanigans are if you ever had to go to court over a contract in the State of NC and dealt with professional legal people. But over the top "performance" is a part of the Florida legal system and their bar allows it so it works on the rubes to make them feel better. FSU had better fear Wake Forest - more so than any other member of the Big 4 or ACC. FSU has allowed it become personal between the two with some of FSU's comments. Pissed off half Southern Baptist half Moravian squires are deadly in court.
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I think this is FSU's most realistic hope:

Quote:Put simply, while legal factors heavily favor the ACC, the ultimate resolution of this dispute may well be influenced by business considerations, particularly the actions of major broadcasters like ESPN.

If ESPN brokers a deal which is mutually beneficial to both the ACC and FSU, fine. If it's just a matter of deciding this case in court, I don't like FSU's chances at all.
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(02-05-2024 09:03 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  FSU will give back the money received from the ACC when the ACC gives back the work performed.

That's not how it works when you're trying to get out of a contract you voluntarily signed. Keeping the money is tantamount to agreeing to the contract (again).
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(02-05-2024 10:37 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I think this is FSU's most realistic hope:

Quote:Put simply, while legal factors heavily favor the ACC, the ultimate resolution of this dispute may well be influenced by business considerations, particularly the actions of major broadcasters like ESPN.

If ESPN brokers a deal which is mutually beneficial to both the ACC and FSU, fine. If it's just a matter of deciding this case in court, I don't like FSU's chances at all.

It won't go to court.

Legal particulars = tactics
Business considerations = strategy

Florida State is leaving. What remains to be determined is the cost (to both sides).
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David McKenzie is an attorney in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area. He specializes in intellectual property law and can be reached at david@mckenzielaw.net.

This article explores the intricate legal battles between Florida State University (FSU) and the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC), shedding light on FSU’s considerable challenges and the ACC’s robust legal standing in the lawsuits. Designed for accessibility, it provides a detailed breakdown of the pivotal intellectual property issues and contractual obligations that are at the forefront of these high-profile cases in Leon CountFSU v. The ACC (Leon County, FL)

1. FSU’s Misunderstanding of Copyright Law

FSU’s approach to challenging the Grant of Rights (GOR) ignores the key principles of copyright law. When FSU licensed its media rights to the ACC, it effectively agreed to specific terms regarding the use and control of these rights. The notion that FSU can retroactively challenge its agreement, because the financial rewards are now seen as unfavorable, reflects a misunderstanding of how copyright licensing works. Copyright law doesn’t provide an avenue for licensors to rescind their rights based solely on a change in market conditions or the realization that a deal is a bad one.

2. Failure to Acknowledge Voluntary Agreement

A fatal flaw in FSU’s Leon County lawsuit is its complete failure to acknowledge that the university willingly entered into the GOR, not once but twice. FSU not only agreed to the initial terms but also reaffirmed its commitment through a subsequent amendment. This casts serious doubt on any argument that any GOR is inherently unfair or one-sided. Additionally, there is no record of FSU proposing to return the millions it received under either GOR, which further detracts from any arguments of inequity. Although one might speculate about FSU’s ability to return the millions received, even if it desired to do so, the crucial point remains: the ACC holds two distinct contract signatures from two FSU presidents.


Florida State University President Eric Barron’s 2013 GOR Signature


Florida State University President John Thrasher’s 2016 GOR Signature

3. Lack of Valid Contractual Defenses

FSU’s complaint largely hinges on the claim that the GOR is a bad deal. However, merely entering into a bad deal is not a valid ground for voiding a contract. Completely absent from FSU’s complaint are traditional contract defenses such as fraud, duress, or misrepresentation, which are typically required to challenge the validity of a contract. (See Fn. 1, below.)

4. Over Reliance on Antitrust Arguments

FSU’s lawsuit heavily relies on the premise that the GOR and its associated penalties violate antitrust laws. But antitrust laws are designed to protect competition from harmful monopolies and unfair business practices, not shield parties from bad deals made with full knowledge and consent. FSU’s complaint in Florida primarily revolves around regret over a deal that has become financially less favorable over time— that is, it’s just a bad deal, and competition is not harmed despite FSU’s regret.

Moreover, state antitrust laws cannot override the well-established principles of federal copyright law. Indeed, FSU’s antitrust position flatly disregards the robustness of federal copyright law, which firmly governs the terms of the GOR as a copyright license. By invoking state antitrust complaints, FSU is not just reaching for an unlikely legal remedy; it is misapplying these laws in a context where they are arguably irrelevant. Ultimately, FSU’s emphasis on antitrust arguments may be a diversionary tactic, possibly aimed at shifting focus away from the more challenging task of proving traditional contract defenses.

Ironically, FSU does not challenge the inherently anticompetitive system of collegiate athletics itself – which on its face is an exceedingly closed system of competition – where schools like Appalachian State and East Carolina have near-impossible odds at joining a major conference like the ACC, a practice which arguably violates the very antitrust principles FSU now invokes.

Here, FSU’s state school brethren in University of South Florida, Florida International University, Florida Atlantic University, and the University of Central Florida should take keen notice of the state statutory construction FSU now employs. If FSU can use Florida antitrust law to bust out of the ACC on Florida antitrust grounds, then, following FSU’s logic, UCF, FAU, FIU, and USF should be allowed to burst into it. What is good for a Florida goose is also good for a Florida gander, after all. (See Fn. 2, below.)

5. What About the Exit Fee?

I harbor deep skepticism about Florida State University’s calculation of its exit fee from the ACC. FSU’s legal strategy inflates this fee by amalgamating the value of media rights pledged (not forfeited) under the GOR with unreimbursed broadcast fees and a genuine exit fee. That’s $130 million (exit fee) plus $13 million (broadcast fees) plus an estimated $429 million (media rights). The total, a staggering $572 million, misleadingly conflates separate contractual elements, and is an obvious attempt to take what is fundamentally a question of intellectual property licensing and supplant it with one having to do with antitrust law.

Intellectual property holders commonly assign rights like copyrights, trademarks, and patents for specific durations and fees. This inherent value within the deal never translates to an “exit fee.” It’s just the value of the deal. To construe the pledged intellectual property, valued at $429 million, as a penalty in contract is not only legally unsound but could also severely damage FSU’s credibility as a reliable party in future licensing agreements. If market conditions dictate the terms of an IP license, no one would risk entering an agreement with FSU, fearing arbitrary redefinitions of contract terms based on FSU’s displeasure in a change in market conditions and the money FSU was receiving. Ask Disney, Netflix, Fox, WRAL, or any entertainment provider, and it will tell you that is not how IP licensing works.

Better yet, imagine buying two Taylor Swift tickets, one for last year and one for next, where you pay the same amount for both to secure your spot at both stadiums. Now picture Taylor, after taking your money, suddenly throwing a tantrum and threatening to skip next year’s show because ticket prices for, say, Beyoncé goes up. Now imagine Taylor, after accepting your payment and not offering to give any money back, unilaterally demanding a steep price hike for next year’s performance. Your gut response of “that’s absurd” is justifiable. But that is essentially what FSU is trying to do with the GOR and the exit fee— reneging on a previous agreement based on buyer’s remorse, not antitrust law, and because of a change in market conditions.

As for the actual exit fee of $130 million, this figure, contrary to being excessive, is probably fair. It likely accurately reflects, if not underestimates, the real economic impact and loss the ACC and its member institutions would suffer from FSU’s departure. Liquidated damages, though required to reflect actual damages and not act as a penalty, in this case seem within a reasonable estimation of the ACC’s losses.

All in all, FSU’s lawsuit against the ACC appears to be more about escaping a bad deal than addressing clear-cut legal violations. It shows a misunderstanding of copyright law, lacks any meaningful contract defenses, and makes strained antitrust arguments. FSU may have a conceivable beef with the raw exit fee, not the money tied to the GOR (an entirely separate issue tied to licensed intellectual property as opposed to a contract penalty), but I would not encourage anyone to think that FSU has a strong case.

ACC v. FSU (Mecklenburg County, NC)

Conversely, I think this case is pretty strong, especially in the context of the ACC’s equitable claims. Let’s start with the basics.

Basic Contract Law
The ACC’s entire complaint hinges on the principle that FSU, by virtue of its long-term membership, has reaped substantial benefits from the ACC. By now attempting to breach the agreements it willingly entered into, not once but twice, FSU is contravening its foundational commitments that have underpinned its relationship with the ACC for over 30 years. This is a pretty basic contract law.

2. ACC’s View of the Grant of Rights

While here I could go on for pages, and while I acknowledge the ACC does not say as much in its amended complaint, the GOR is about intellectual property, plain and simple, and IP is something that can be licensed and pledged just like any property we hold or sell.

FSU committed its intellectual property to the ACC to be exploited, and there is no mechanism under the Copyright Act to simply withdraw a copyright license because of a change in market conditions. (There actually is an obscure but meaningful exception here, but it pertains to the transfer of an author’s copyright that wasn’t a work for hire and is only applicable after 35 years from the date of transfer (17 U.S.C. § 203). If Congress intended to make a similar exception for a GOR in college football, it would have done so. By my count, we are in year eight.)

Otherwise, the ACC does complain that FSU’s commitment to the GOR first in 2013 and then again in 2016 allowed the ACC to negotiate more effectively with media partners like ESPN. It was a communal approach FSU agreed to. This collective approach, as opposed to individual negotiations by each member, led to the creation of the ACC Network, providing a stable and enhanced revenue stream to all members, including Florida State University. FSU’s participation in this agreement was a strategic move to maximize its media revenues. It can’t invalidate the GOR or, especially, yank its IP simply because, now, it realizes it entered a bad deal. Put simply, that is not how the Copyright Act or basic contracting works.

3. Acceptance, and Then Breach

By explicitly agreeing to the GOR’s “irrevocable” and “exclusive” terms, not once but twice, FSU entered a binding contractual commitment with the ACC. Through both its Leon County lawsuit and the actions of its Board of Trustees, the ACC argues that FSU has demonstrably contradicted its previous acceptance of these terms and the substantial financial benefits it has received, including increased TV revenue and ACC Network access. This constitutes a material breach of the contract, as FSU’s actions directly undermine the ACC’s reliance on its commitment and threaten the stability of the conference. The ACC’s lawsuit seeks to hold FSU accountable for this breach and ensure the continued enforcement of the mutually agreed-upon terms.

4. Equitable Estoppel and Waiver

This is the ACC’s best argument. This principle prevents a party from repudiating an agreement if they have previously accepted and enjoyed its benefits. In the ACC’s case, the conference asserts with merit that FSU has amassed millions in additional revenue under the GORs, including increased TV exposure through the ACC Network. The ACC argues that FSU, having banked substantial financial gains, is estopped from challenging the GOR’s validity. Here, the ACC has exposed FSU’s glaring hypocrisy. FSU’s actions are not just contractually untenable, but also fundamentally unjust if not also outrageous, given its prior acceptance and profiting from the very terms they are now contesting.

FSU’s challenge to the GOR, after more than a decade of enjoying its benefits, blatantly undermines the cornerstone principle of good faith in contractual relationships. FSU may not like the amount of money it has received, but that is no grounds to invalidate a contract, especially when FSU has already taken the money.

The Conspicuous Silence of Other ACC Members: A Calculated Caution

The conspicuous absence of any other ACC school joining FSU’s legal battle against the ACC is highly revealing. Despite rumors of pre-lawsuit discussions among several prominent members, including Miami, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and FSU itself, not one has followed FSU into a courtroom. The reason likely stems from a comprehensive legal analysis conducted by every ACC institution, leading to a recognition of the ACC’s strong legal position and the risks inherent in FSU’s approach. Choosing pragmatism, the other ACC schools benefit from sitting back and watching FSU’s gamble, opting for stability over legal skirmishes.

Practical Considerations

1. Preemptive Strike: The ACC’s Legal Chess Move Against FSU

The ACC’s decision to file its lawsuit against FSU one day before FSU’s own filing (December 21, 2023, vs. December 22, 2023) was a tactical move. It was not just reactive; it was prescient and strategic. The original discussions, negotiations, and crucial signings of the legally-binding Grant of Rights all took place in North Carolina. This detail alone creates a strong argument that any disputes arising under the GOR should be interpreted under North Carolina law and be resolved in its courts. This is particularly relevant when, as here, there is an absence of a specific jurisdiction and venue clause.

Furthermore, the ACC filed first because there is a “first to file” principle in the law that stands for the proposition that he who files first, gets to go first. Though this principle does not guarantee priority, it does allow the ACC to make the argument.

Also, filing an amended lawsuit is standard practice, especially within the first 30 days. Here, I do not for a second believe, as some have suggested, that the ACC had its lawsuit prepared and “ready to go” against Florida State. I have ample experience in preparing lawsuits, and if you look at the ACC’s initial complaint, it is quite good but neither great nor thorough. I am guessing the ACC’s lawyers cracked it out in a day or two with every expectation of amending and after receiving short notice of FSU’s plan to sue the ACC. The amended complaint, filed on January 19, 2024, is both great and thorough. It showcases the full strength of the ACC’s legal team, introduces compelling new arguments, bolsters claims with additional evidence, and refines the ACC’s approach.

2. What’s Next in the FSU vs. ACC Legal Battle

It would strain a reader’s credulity for this article to affirmatively predict what will happen next. I don’t know. Yet, there are some guesses to be made.

Practically, the Leon County, Florida, court should stay the proceedings in deference to the case pending in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. The pivotal events and signings related to the GOR happened in North Carolina, making it a more appropriate venue. Moreover, FSU can raise all its arguments, including antitrust claims, in a North Carolina court. While not dispositive or even predictive, the ACC did file first, and the “first to file” rule slightly militates in favor of the ACC’s case having priority.

Still, FSU’s lawsuit appears fundamentally weak. Its voluntary signing of the GOR twice, the financial benefits it reaped from these agreements, and the lack of substantial contract defenses manifest a remarkably weak position. This combination of factors might render FSU’s complaint so inadequate to warrant dismissal under Rule 12(b)(6) for failing to state a cognizable claim for relief.

Meanwhile, the ACC’s case, on the other hand, seems robust, particularly regarding the claims of equitable estoppel and waiver. These legal principles appear to form a formidable barrier to FSU’s attempts to challenge the GOR agreements it previously agreed to and benefited from.

Otherwise, my extensive experience in intellectual property law leads me to firmly believe that the Grant of Rights is a copyright license and not a restraint on trade. (I am not making this up; the GOR literally has a detailed “Copyright and License” section.) FSU’s attempt to reframe it as an exit fee and raise antitrust concerns directly undermines the fundamental principles of intellectual property licensing and should not be permitted. The success of intellectual property licensing hinges on the stability and predictability of legal agreements, which FSU’s arguments directly threaten to disrupt.

Moreover, Florida’s statutory antitrust law cannot override the provisions of the Copyright Act, which governs rights such as public performance– a central issue in this case. The specific rights and mechanisms for the ownership, transfer, and licensing of copyrights under federal law (e.g., 17 U.S.C. §§ 106, 201) must be considered.

Finally, while outside the scope of my legal expertise, it’s evident that business dynamics, particularly ESPN’s role, may resolve this dispute. ESPN currently benefits from a favorable deal providing extensive content at a good value. Any decision to alter the existing arrangements with the ACC would likely be driven by the prospect of securing an even more advantageous deal with major college football players. However, such moves would have to navigate complex and, here, legitimate antitrust considerations, especially for smaller schools seeking greater access to lucrative media deals.

Put simply, while legal factors heavily favor the ACC, the ultimate resolution of this dispute may well be influenced by business considerations, particularly the actions of major broadcasters like ESPN. The unfolding of this saga will be crucial not only for FSU and the ACC but also for the broader landscape of college athletics and media rights.

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Fn. 1: While FSU’s lawsuit does include a “Frustration of Contractual Purpose” claim, it is presented in a highly conclusory manner without substantive elaboration or application of fact to law. Such a defense typically applies in scenarios of nonperformance, inability to perform, or when unforeseen events drastically alter the essence of a contract, rendering performance meaningless for one party. In the case of FSU and the ACC, there has been no inability to perform under the GOR, and unforeseen events have not rendered FSU’s performance worthless. On the contrary, despite it being less financially advantageous compared to other conferences, the GOR has not been “worthless.” FSU has indeed derived considerable value, amounting to millions, from the agreement. Therefore, the invocation of “frustration of purpose” in this context is intellectually untenable, meriting no further discussion beyond this footnote.

Fn. 2: To this point regarding the interplay between antitrust and copyright, there is a giant elephant in the room, and that is copyright preemption. Essentially, copyright preemption means that state laws, including Florida’s antitrust statutes, cannot grant or enforce rights that fall within the scope of federal copyright law. 17 U.S.C. § 301. In the context of FSU’s case in Leon County, where the ownership and public performance rights of football games are being challenged under state antitrust law, copyright preemption becomes significant. If FSU’s arguments hinge on rights that are fundamentally copyright issues, such as the right to publicly perform the football games, then these arguments might be superseded by federal copyright law. This preemption would suggest that the Leon County court is not the appropriate venue for deciding issues that are essentially governed by federal copyright law. Thus, the case would require analysis under federal statutes and potentially be moved to a federal court with the proper jurisdiction to handle copyright disputes. This issue is altogether worthy of an entirely separate article.

Also worthy of a separate article are the claims that ESPN and, say, Wake Forest, as intended third-party beneficiaries of the GOR, have against Florida State. Both could suffer significant damages by way of FSU’s antics. This is particularly true for Wake Forest, whose financial stability could be dramatically impacted if FSU’s actions leave it dangling in Winston-Salem. The same is true for other ACC schools, but Wake Forest’s damages would be astronomical.y, Florida (Tallahassee) and Mecklenburg County, North Carolina (Charlotte).

This isn't a 'legal analysis' so much as a fan polemic delivered in jargon to make it sound all ironclad and official-like. 'Conspicuous silence,' for example, is not a thing in contract law.

A number of other things are, though, and this is one: the stated expiration date on a legal obligation.

The world just learned that for ESPN that date is 2027.

Our 'analyst' feels no need to mention this to us. The detail remains significant, though. It suggests that even if a conference did 'win in court' a ruling that its GoR is valid, multiple schools could still afford to blow its taco stand. Very soon.

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David McKenzie is an attorney in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area. He specializes in intellectual property law and can be reached at david@mckenzielaw.net.

This article explores the intricate legal battles between Florida State University (FSU) and the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC), shedding light on FSU’s considerable challenges and the ACC’s robust legal standing in the lawsuits. Designed for accessibility, it provides a detailed breakdown of the pivotal intellectual property issues and contractual obligations that are at the forefront of these high-profile cases in Leon CountFSU v. The ACC (Leon County, FL)

1. FSU’s Misunderstanding of Copyright Law

FSU’s approach to challenging the Grant of Rights (GOR) ignores the key principles of copyright law. When FSU licensed its media rights to the ACC, it effectively agreed to specific terms regarding the use and control of these rights. The notion that FSU can retroactively challenge its agreement, because the financial rewards are now seen as unfavorable, reflects a misunderstanding of how copyright licensing works. Copyright law doesn’t provide an avenue for licensors to rescind their rights based solely on a change in market conditions or the realization that a deal is a bad one.

2. Failure to Acknowledge Voluntary Agreement

A fatal flaw in FSU’s Leon County lawsuit is its complete failure to acknowledge that the university willingly entered into the GOR, not once but twice. FSU not only agreed to the initial terms but also reaffirmed its commitment through a subsequent amendment. This casts serious doubt on any argument that any GOR is inherently unfair or one-sided. Additionally, there is no record of FSU proposing to return the millions it received under either GOR, which further detracts from any arguments of inequity. Although one might speculate about FSU’s ability to return the millions received, even if it desired to do so, the crucial point remains: the ACC holds two distinct contract signatures from two FSU presidents.


Florida State University President Eric Barron’s 2013 GOR Signature


Florida State University President John Thrasher’s 2016 GOR Signature

3. Lack of Valid Contractual Defenses

FSU’s complaint largely hinges on the claim that the GOR is a bad deal. However, merely entering into a bad deal is not a valid ground for voiding a contract. Completely absent from FSU’s complaint are traditional contract defenses such as fraud, duress, or misrepresentation, which are typically required to challenge the validity of a contract. (See Fn. 1, below.)

4. Over Reliance on Antitrust Arguments

FSU’s lawsuit heavily relies on the premise that the GOR and its associated penalties violate antitrust laws. But antitrust laws are designed to protect competition from harmful monopolies and unfair business practices, not shield parties from bad deals made with full knowledge and consent. FSU’s complaint in Florida primarily revolves around regret over a deal that has become financially less favorable over time— that is, it’s just a bad deal, and competition is not harmed despite FSU’s regret.

Moreover, state antitrust laws cannot override the well-established principles of federal copyright law. Indeed, FSU’s antitrust position flatly disregards the robustness of federal copyright law, which firmly governs the terms of the GOR as a copyright license. By invoking state antitrust complaints, FSU is not just reaching for an unlikely legal remedy; it is misapplying these laws in a context where they are arguably irrelevant. Ultimately, FSU’s emphasis on antitrust arguments may be a diversionary tactic, possibly aimed at shifting focus away from the more challenging task of proving traditional contract defenses.

Ironically, FSU does not challenge the inherently anticompetitive system of collegiate athletics itself – which on its face is an exceedingly closed system of competition – where schools like Appalachian State and East Carolina have near-impossible odds at joining a major conference like the ACC, a practice which arguably violates the very antitrust principles FSU now invokes.

Here, FSU’s state school brethren in University of South Florida, Florida International University, Florida Atlantic University, and the University of Central Florida should take keen notice of the state statutory construction FSU now employs. If FSU can use Florida antitrust law to bust out of the ACC on Florida antitrust grounds, then, following FSU’s logic, UCF, FAU, FIU, and USF should be allowed to burst into it. What is good for a Florida goose is also good for a Florida gander, after all. (See Fn. 2, below.)

5. What About the Exit Fee?

I harbor deep skepticism about Florida State University’s calculation of its exit fee from the ACC. FSU’s legal strategy inflates this fee by amalgamating the value of media rights pledged (not forfeited) under the GOR with unreimbursed broadcast fees and a genuine exit fee. That’s $130 million (exit fee) plus $13 million (broadcast fees) plus an estimated $429 million (media rights). The total, a staggering $572 million, misleadingly conflates separate contractual elements, and is an obvious attempt to take what is fundamentally a question of intellectual property licensing and supplant it with one having to do with antitrust law.

Intellectual property holders commonly assign rights like copyrights, trademarks, and patents for specific durations and fees. This inherent value within the deal never translates to an “exit fee.” It’s just the value of the deal. To construe the pledged intellectual property, valued at $429 million, as a penalty in contract is not only legally unsound but could also severely damage FSU’s credibility as a reliable party in future licensing agreements. If market conditions dictate the terms of an IP license, no one would risk entering an agreement with FSU, fearing arbitrary redefinitions of contract terms based on FSU’s displeasure in a change in market conditions and the money FSU was receiving. Ask Disney, Netflix, Fox, WRAL, or any entertainment provider, and it will tell you that is not how IP licensing works.

Better yet, imagine buying two Taylor Swift tickets, one for last year and one for next, where you pay the same amount for both to secure your spot at both stadiums. Now picture Taylor, after taking your money, suddenly throwing a tantrum and threatening to skip next year’s show because ticket prices for, say, Beyoncé goes up. Now imagine Taylor, after accepting your payment and not offering to give any money back, unilaterally demanding a steep price hike for next year’s performance. Your gut response of “that’s absurd” is justifiable. But that is essentially what FSU is trying to do with the GOR and the exit fee— reneging on a previous agreement based on buyer’s remorse, not antitrust law, and because of a change in market conditions.

As for the actual exit fee of $130 million, this figure, contrary to being excessive, is probably fair. It likely accurately reflects, if not underestimates, the real economic impact and loss the ACC and its member institutions would suffer from FSU’s departure. Liquidated damages, though required to reflect actual damages and not act as a penalty, in this case seem within a reasonable estimation of the ACC’s losses.

All in all, FSU’s lawsuit against the ACC appears to be more about escaping a bad deal than addressing clear-cut legal violations. It shows a misunderstanding of copyright law, lacks any meaningful contract defenses, and makes strained antitrust arguments. FSU may have a conceivable beef with the raw exit fee, not the money tied to the GOR (an entirely separate issue tied to licensed intellectual property as opposed to a contract penalty), but I would not encourage anyone to think that FSU has a strong case.

ACC v. FSU (Mecklenburg County, NC)

Conversely, I think this case is pretty strong, especially in the context of the ACC’s equitable claims. Let’s start with the basics.

Basic Contract Law
The ACC’s entire complaint hinges on the principle that FSU, by virtue of its long-term membership, has reaped substantial benefits from the ACC. By now attempting to breach the agreements it willingly entered into, not once but twice, FSU is contravening its foundational commitments that have underpinned its relationship with the ACC for over 30 years. This is a pretty basic contract law.

2. ACC’s View of the Grant of Rights

While here I could go on for pages, and while I acknowledge the ACC does not say as much in its amended complaint, the GOR is about intellectual property, plain and simple, and IP is something that can be licensed and pledged just like any property we hold or sell.

FSU committed its intellectual property to the ACC to be exploited, and there is no mechanism under the Copyright Act to simply withdraw a copyright license because of a change in market conditions. (There actually is an obscure but meaningful exception here, but it pertains to the transfer of an author’s copyright that wasn’t a work for hire and is only applicable after 35 years from the date of transfer (17 U.S.C. § 203). If Congress intended to make a similar exception for a GOR in college football, it would have done so. By my count, we are in year eight.)

Otherwise, the ACC does complain that FSU’s commitment to the GOR first in 2013 and then again in 2016 allowed the ACC to negotiate more effectively with media partners like ESPN. It was a communal approach FSU agreed to. This collective approach, as opposed to individual negotiations by each member, led to the creation of the ACC Network, providing a stable and enhanced revenue stream to all members, including Florida State University. FSU’s participation in this agreement was a strategic move to maximize its media revenues. It can’t invalidate the GOR or, especially, yank its IP simply because, now, it realizes it entered a bad deal. Put simply, that is not how the Copyright Act or basic contracting works.

3. Acceptance, and Then Breach

By explicitly agreeing to the GOR’s “irrevocable” and “exclusive” terms, not once but twice, FSU entered a binding contractual commitment with the ACC. Through both its Leon County lawsuit and the actions of its Board of Trustees, the ACC argues that FSU has demonstrably contradicted its previous acceptance of these terms and the substantial financial benefits it has received, including increased TV revenue and ACC Network access. This constitutes a material breach of the contract, as FSU’s actions directly undermine the ACC’s reliance on its commitment and threaten the stability of the conference. The ACC’s lawsuit seeks to hold FSU accountable for this breach and ensure the continued enforcement of the mutually agreed-upon terms.

4. Equitable Estoppel and Waiver

This is the ACC’s best argument. This principle prevents a party from repudiating an agreement if they have previously accepted and enjoyed its benefits. In the ACC’s case, the conference asserts with merit that FSU has amassed millions in additional revenue under the GORs, including increased TV exposure through the ACC Network. The ACC argues that FSU, having banked substantial financial gains, is estopped from challenging the GOR’s validity. Here, the ACC has exposed FSU’s glaring hypocrisy. FSU’s actions are not just contractually untenable, but also fundamentally unjust if not also outrageous, given its prior acceptance and profiting from the very terms they are now contesting.

FSU’s challenge to the GOR, after more than a decade of enjoying its benefits, blatantly undermines the cornerstone principle of good faith in contractual relationships. FSU may not like the amount of money it has received, but that is no grounds to invalidate a contract, especially when FSU has already taken the money.

The Conspicuous Silence of Other ACC Members: A Calculated Caution

The conspicuous absence of any other ACC school joining FSU’s legal battle against the ACC is highly revealing. Despite rumors of pre-lawsuit discussions among several prominent members, including Miami, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and FSU itself, not one has followed FSU into a courtroom. The reason likely stems from a comprehensive legal analysis conducted by every ACC institution, leading to a recognition of the ACC’s strong legal position and the risks inherent in FSU’s approach. Choosing pragmatism, the other ACC schools benefit from sitting back and watching FSU’s gamble, opting for stability over legal skirmishes.

Practical Considerations

1. Preemptive Strike: The ACC’s Legal Chess Move Against FSU

The ACC’s decision to file its lawsuit against FSU one day before FSU’s own filing (December 21, 2023, vs. December 22, 2023) was a tactical move. It was not just reactive; it was prescient and strategic. The original discussions, negotiations, and crucial signings of the legally-binding Grant of Rights all took place in North Carolina. This detail alone creates a strong argument that any disputes arising under the GOR should be interpreted under North Carolina law and be resolved in its courts. This is particularly relevant when, as here, there is an absence of a specific jurisdiction and venue clause.

Furthermore, the ACC filed first because there is a “first to file” principle in the law that stands for the proposition that he who files first, gets to go first. Though this principle does not guarantee priority, it does allow the ACC to make the argument.

Also, filing an amended lawsuit is standard practice, especially within the first 30 days. Here, I do not for a second believe, as some have suggested, that the ACC had its lawsuit prepared and “ready to go” against Florida State. I have ample experience in preparing lawsuits, and if you look at the ACC’s initial complaint, it is quite good but neither great nor thorough. I am guessing the ACC’s lawyers cracked it out in a day or two with every expectation of amending and after receiving short notice of FSU’s plan to sue the ACC. The amended complaint, filed on January 19, 2024, is both great and thorough. It showcases the full strength of the ACC’s legal team, introduces compelling new arguments, bolsters claims with additional evidence, and refines the ACC’s approach.

2. What’s Next in the FSU vs. ACC Legal Battle

It would strain a reader’s credulity for this article to affirmatively predict what will happen next. I don’t know. Yet, there are some guesses to be made.

Practically, the Leon County, Florida, court should stay the proceedings in deference to the case pending in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. The pivotal events and signings related to the GOR happened in North Carolina, making it a more appropriate venue. Moreover, FSU can raise all its arguments, including antitrust claims, in a North Carolina court. While not dispositive or even predictive, the ACC did file first, and the “first to file” rule slightly militates in favor of the ACC’s case having priority.

Still, FSU’s lawsuit appears fundamentally weak. Its voluntary signing of the GOR twice, the financial benefits it reaped from these agreements, and the lack of substantial contract defenses manifest a remarkably weak position. This combination of factors might render FSU’s complaint so inadequate to warrant dismissal under Rule 12(b)(6) for failing to state a cognizable claim for relief.

Meanwhile, the ACC’s case, on the other hand, seems robust, particularly regarding the claims of equitable estoppel and waiver. These legal principles appear to form a formidable barrier to FSU’s attempts to challenge the GOR agreements it previously agreed to and benefited from.

Otherwise, my extensive experience in intellectual property law leads me to firmly believe that the Grant of Rights is a copyright license and not a restraint on trade. (I am not making this up; the GOR literally has a detailed “Copyright and License” section.) FSU’s attempt to reframe it as an exit fee and raise antitrust concerns directly undermines the fundamental principles of intellectual property licensing and should not be permitted. The success of intellectual property licensing hinges on the stability and predictability of legal agreements, which FSU’s arguments directly threaten to disrupt.

Moreover, Florida’s statutory antitrust law cannot override the provisions of the Copyright Act, which governs rights such as public performance– a central issue in this case. The specific rights and mechanisms for the ownership, transfer, and licensing of copyrights under federal law (e.g., 17 U.S.C. §§ 106, 201) must be considered.

Finally, while outside the scope of my legal expertise, it’s evident that business dynamics, particularly ESPN’s role, may resolve this dispute. ESPN currently benefits from a favorable deal providing extensive content at a good value. Any decision to alter the existing arrangements with the ACC would likely be driven by the prospect of securing an even more advantageous deal with major college football players. However, such moves would have to navigate complex and, here, legitimate antitrust considerations, especially for smaller schools seeking greater access to lucrative media deals.

Put simply, while legal factors heavily favor the ACC, the ultimate resolution of this dispute may well be influenced by business considerations, particularly the actions of major broadcasters like ESPN. The unfolding of this saga will be crucial not only for FSU and the ACC but also for the broader landscape of college athletics and media rights.

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Fn. 1: While FSU’s lawsuit does include a “Frustration of Contractual Purpose” claim, it is presented in a highly conclusory manner without substantive elaboration or application of fact to law. Such a defense typically applies in scenarios of nonperformance, inability to perform, or when unforeseen events drastically alter the essence of a contract, rendering performance meaningless for one party. In the case of FSU and the ACC, there has been no inability to perform under the GOR, and unforeseen events have not rendered FSU’s performance worthless. On the contrary, despite it being less financially advantageous compared to other conferences, the GOR has not been “worthless.” FSU has indeed derived considerable value, amounting to millions, from the agreement. Therefore, the invocation of “frustration of purpose” in this context is intellectually untenable, meriting no further discussion beyond this footnote.

Fn. 2: To this point regarding the interplay between antitrust and copyright, there is a giant elephant in the room, and that is copyright preemption. Essentially, copyright preemption means that state laws, including Florida’s antitrust statutes, cannot grant or enforce rights that fall within the scope of federal copyright law. 17 U.S.C. § 301. In the context of FSU’s case in Leon County, where the ownership and public performance rights of football games are being challenged under state antitrust law, copyright preemption becomes significant. If FSU’s arguments hinge on rights that are fundamentally copyright issues, such as the right to publicly perform the football games, then these arguments might be superseded by federal copyright law. This preemption would suggest that the Leon County court is not the appropriate venue for deciding issues that are essentially governed by federal copyright law. Thus, the case would require analysis under federal statutes and potentially be moved to a federal court with the proper jurisdiction to handle copyright disputes. This issue is altogether worthy of an entirely separate article.

Also worthy of a separate article are the claims that ESPN and, say, Wake Forest, as intended third-party beneficiaries of the GOR, have against Florida State. Both could suffer significant damages by way of FSU’s antics. This is particularly true for Wake Forest, whose financial stability could be dramatically impacted if FSU’s actions leave it dangling in Winston-Salem. The same is true for other ACC schools, but Wake Forest’s damages would be astronomical.y, Florida (Tallahassee) and Mecklenburg County, North Carolina (Charlotte).

This isn't a 'legal analysis' so much as a fan polemic delivered in jargon to make it sound all ironclad and official-like. 'Conspicuous silence,' for example, is not a thing in contract law.

A number of other things are, though, and this is one: the stated expiration date on a legal obligation.

The world just learned that for ESPN that date is 2027.

Our 'analyst' feels no need to mention this to you. The detail remains significant. It suggests that even if a conference were to 'win in court' a ruling that its GoR is valid, multiple schools could still afford to blow the taco stand. Very soon.

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David McKenzie is an attorney in the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area. He specializes in intellectual property law and can be reached at david@mckenzielaw.net.

This article explores the intricate legal battles between Florida State University (FSU) and the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC), shedding light on FSU’s considerable challenges and the ACC’s robust legal standing in the lawsuits. Designed for accessibility, it provides a detailed breakdown of the pivotal intellectual property issues and contractual obligations that are at the forefront of these high-profile cases in Leon CountFSU v. The ACC (Leon County, FL)

1. FSU’s Misunderstanding of Copyright Law

FSU’s approach to challenging the Grant of Rights (GOR) ignores the key principles of copyright law. When FSU licensed its media rights to the ACC, it effectively agreed to specific terms regarding the use and control of these rights. The notion that FSU can retroactively challenge its agreement, because the financial rewards are now seen as unfavorable, reflects a misunderstanding of how copyright licensing works. Copyright law doesn’t provide an avenue for licensors to rescind their rights based solely on a change in market conditions or the realization that a deal is a bad one.

2. Failure to Acknowledge Voluntary Agreement

A fatal flaw in FSU’s Leon County lawsuit is its complete failure to acknowledge that the university willingly entered into the GOR, not once but twice. FSU not only agreed to the initial terms but also reaffirmed its commitment through a subsequent amendment. This casts serious doubt on any argument that any GOR is inherently unfair or one-sided. Additionally, there is no record of FSU proposing to return the millions it received under either GOR, which further detracts from any arguments of inequity. Although one might speculate about FSU’s ability to return the millions received, even if it desired to do so, the crucial point remains: the ACC holds two distinct contract signatures from two FSU presidents.


Florida State University President Eric Barron’s 2013 GOR Signature


Florida State University President John Thrasher’s 2016 GOR Signature

3. Lack of Valid Contractual Defenses

FSU’s complaint largely hinges on the claim that the GOR is a bad deal. However, merely entering into a bad deal is not a valid ground for voiding a contract. Completely absent from FSU’s complaint are traditional contract defenses such as fraud, duress, or misrepresentation, which are typically required to challenge the validity of a contract. (See Fn. 1, below.)

4. Over Reliance on Antitrust Arguments

FSU’s lawsuit heavily relies on the premise that the GOR and its associated penalties violate antitrust laws. But antitrust laws are designed to protect competition from harmful monopolies and unfair business practices, not shield parties from bad deals made with full knowledge and consent. FSU’s complaint in Florida primarily revolves around regret over a deal that has become financially less favorable over time— that is, it’s just a bad deal, and competition is not harmed despite FSU’s regret.

Moreover, state antitrust laws cannot override the well-established principles of federal copyright law. Indeed, FSU’s antitrust position flatly disregards the robustness of federal copyright law, which firmly governs the terms of the GOR as a copyright license. By invoking state antitrust complaints, FSU is not just reaching for an unlikely legal remedy; it is misapplying these laws in a context where they are arguably irrelevant. Ultimately, FSU’s emphasis on antitrust arguments may be a diversionary tactic, possibly aimed at shifting focus away from the more challenging task of proving traditional contract defenses.

Ironically, FSU does not challenge the inherently anticompetitive system of collegiate athletics itself – which on its face is an exceedingly closed system of competition – where schools like Appalachian State and East Carolina have near-impossible odds at joining a major conference like the ACC, a practice which arguably violates the very antitrust principles FSU now invokes.

Here, FSU’s state school brethren in University of South Florida, Florida International University, Florida Atlantic University, and the University of Central Florida should take keen notice of the state statutory construction FSU now employs. If FSU can use Florida antitrust law to bust out of the ACC on Florida antitrust grounds, then, following FSU’s logic, UCF, FAU, FIU, and USF should be allowed to burst into it. What is good for a Florida goose is also good for a Florida gander, after all. (See Fn. 2, below.)

5. What About the Exit Fee?

I harbor deep skepticism about Florida State University’s calculation of its exit fee from the ACC. FSU’s legal strategy inflates this fee by amalgamating the value of media rights pledged (not forfeited) under the GOR with unreimbursed broadcast fees and a genuine exit fee. That’s $130 million (exit fee) plus $13 million (broadcast fees) plus an estimated $429 million (media rights). The total, a staggering $572 million, misleadingly conflates separate contractual elements, and is an obvious attempt to take what is fundamentally a question of intellectual property licensing and supplant it with one having to do with antitrust law.

Intellectual property holders commonly assign rights like copyrights, trademarks, and patents for specific durations and fees. This inherent value within the deal never translates to an “exit fee.” It’s just the value of the deal. To construe the pledged intellectual property, valued at $429 million, as a penalty in contract is not only legally unsound but could also severely damage FSU’s credibility as a reliable party in future licensing agreements. If market conditions dictate the terms of an IP license, no one would risk entering an agreement with FSU, fearing arbitrary redefinitions of contract terms based on FSU’s displeasure in a change in market conditions and the money FSU was receiving. Ask Disney, Netflix, Fox, WRAL, or any entertainment provider, and it will tell you that is not how IP licensing works.

Better yet, imagine buying two Taylor Swift tickets, one for last year and one for next, where you pay the same amount for both to secure your spot at both stadiums. Now picture Taylor, after taking your money, suddenly throwing a tantrum and threatening to skip next year’s show because ticket prices for, say, Beyoncé goes up. Now imagine Taylor, after accepting your payment and not offering to give any money back, unilaterally demanding a steep price hike for next year’s performance. Your gut response of “that’s absurd” is justifiable. But that is essentially what FSU is trying to do with the GOR and the exit fee— reneging on a previous agreement based on buyer’s remorse, not antitrust law, and because of a change in market conditions.

As for the actual exit fee of $130 million, this figure, contrary to being excessive, is probably fair. It likely accurately reflects, if not underestimates, the real economic impact and loss the ACC and its member institutions would suffer from FSU’s departure. Liquidated damages, though required to reflect actual damages and not act as a penalty, in this case seem within a reasonable estimation of the ACC’s losses.

All in all, FSU’s lawsuit against the ACC appears to be more about escaping a bad deal than addressing clear-cut legal violations. It shows a misunderstanding of copyright law, lacks any meaningful contract defenses, and makes strained antitrust arguments. FSU may have a conceivable beef with the raw exit fee, not the money tied to the GOR (an entirely separate issue tied to licensed intellectual property as opposed to a contract penalty), but I would not encourage anyone to think that FSU has a strong case.

ACC v. FSU (Mecklenburg County, NC)

Conversely, I think this case is pretty strong, especially in the context of the ACC’s equitable claims. Let’s start with the basics.

Basic Contract Law
The ACC’s entire complaint hinges on the principle that FSU, by virtue of its long-term membership, has reaped substantial benefits from the ACC. By now attempting to breach the agreements it willingly entered into, not once but twice, FSU is contravening its foundational commitments that have underpinned its relationship with the ACC for over 30 years. This is a pretty basic contract law.

2. ACC’s View of the Grant of Rights

While here I could go on for pages, and while I acknowledge the ACC does not say as much in its amended complaint, the GOR is about intellectual property, plain and simple, and IP is something that can be licensed and pledged just like any property we hold or sell.

FSU committed its intellectual property to the ACC to be exploited, and there is no mechanism under the Copyright Act to simply withdraw a copyright license because of a change in market conditions. (There actually is an obscure but meaningful exception here, but it pertains to the transfer of an author’s copyright that wasn’t a work for hire and is only applicable after 35 years from the date of transfer (17 U.S.C. § 203). If Congress intended to make a similar exception for a GOR in college football, it would have done so. By my count, we are in year eight.)

Otherwise, the ACC does complain that FSU’s commitment to the GOR first in 2013 and then again in 2016 allowed the ACC to negotiate more effectively with media partners like ESPN. It was a communal approach FSU agreed to. This collective approach, as opposed to individual negotiations by each member, led to the creation of the ACC Network, providing a stable and enhanced revenue stream to all members, including Florida State University. FSU’s participation in this agreement was a strategic move to maximize its media revenues. It can’t invalidate the GOR or, especially, yank its IP simply because, now, it realizes it entered a bad deal. Put simply, that is not how the Copyright Act or basic contracting works.

3. Acceptance, and Then Breach

By explicitly agreeing to the GOR’s “irrevocable” and “exclusive” terms, not once but twice, FSU entered a binding contractual commitment with the ACC. Through both its Leon County lawsuit and the actions of its Board of Trustees, the ACC argues that FSU has demonstrably contradicted its previous acceptance of these terms and the substantial financial benefits it has received, including increased TV revenue and ACC Network access. This constitutes a material breach of the contract, as FSU’s actions directly undermine the ACC’s reliance on its commitment and threaten the stability of the conference. The ACC’s lawsuit seeks to hold FSU accountable for this breach and ensure the continued enforcement of the mutually agreed-upon terms.

4. Equitable Estoppel and Waiver

This is the ACC’s best argument. This principle prevents a party from repudiating an agreement if they have previously accepted and enjoyed its benefits. In the ACC’s case, the conference asserts with merit that FSU has amassed millions in additional revenue under the GORs, including increased TV exposure through the ACC Network. The ACC argues that FSU, having banked substantial financial gains, is estopped from challenging the GOR’s validity. Here, the ACC has exposed FSU’s glaring hypocrisy. FSU’s actions are not just contractually untenable, but also fundamentally unjust if not also outrageous, given its prior acceptance and profiting from the very terms they are now contesting.

FSU’s challenge to the GOR, after more than a decade of enjoying its benefits, blatantly undermines the cornerstone principle of good faith in contractual relationships. FSU may not like the amount of money it has received, but that is no grounds to invalidate a contract, especially when FSU has already taken the money.

The Conspicuous Silence of Other ACC Members: A Calculated Caution

The conspicuous absence of any other ACC school joining FSU’s legal battle against the ACC is highly revealing. Despite rumors of pre-lawsuit discussions among several prominent members, including Miami, Clemson, UNC, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and FSU itself, not one has followed FSU into a courtroom. The reason likely stems from a comprehensive legal analysis conducted by every ACC institution, leading to a recognition of the ACC’s strong legal position and the risks inherent in FSU’s approach. Choosing pragmatism, the other ACC schools benefit from sitting back and watching FSU’s gamble, opting for stability over legal skirmishes.

Practical Considerations

1. Preemptive Strike: The ACC’s Legal Chess Move Against FSU

The ACC’s decision to file its lawsuit against FSU one day before FSU’s own filing (December 21, 2023, vs. December 22, 2023) was a tactical move. It was not just reactive; it was prescient and strategic. The original discussions, negotiations, and crucial signings of the legally-binding Grant of Rights all took place in North Carolina. This detail alone creates a strong argument that any disputes arising under the GOR should be interpreted under North Carolina law and be resolved in its courts. This is particularly relevant when, as here, there is an absence of a specific jurisdiction and venue clause.

Furthermore, the ACC filed first because there is a “first to file” principle in the law that stands for the proposition that he who files first, gets to go first. Though this principle does not guarantee priority, it does allow the ACC to make the argument.

Also, filing an amended lawsuit is standard practice, especially within the first 30 days. Here, I do not for a second believe, as some have suggested, that the ACC had its lawsuit prepared and “ready to go” against Florida State. I have ample experience in preparing lawsuits, and if you look at the ACC’s initial complaint, it is quite good but neither great nor thorough. I am guessing the ACC’s lawyers cracked it out in a day or two with every expectation of amending and after receiving short notice of FSU’s plan to sue the ACC. The amended complaint, filed on January 19, 2024, is both great and thorough. It showcases the full strength of the ACC’s legal team, introduces compelling new arguments, bolsters claims with additional evidence, and refines the ACC’s approach.

2. What’s Next in the FSU vs. ACC Legal Battle

It would strain a reader’s credulity for this article to affirmatively predict what will happen next. I don’t know. Yet, there are some guesses to be made.

Practically, the Leon County, Florida, court should stay the proceedings in deference to the case pending in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. The pivotal events and signings related to the GOR happened in North Carolina, making it a more appropriate venue. Moreover, FSU can raise all its arguments, including antitrust claims, in a North Carolina court. While not dispositive or even predictive, the ACC did file first, and the “first to file” rule slightly militates in favor of the ACC’s case having priority.

Still, FSU’s lawsuit appears fundamentally weak. Its voluntary signing of the GOR twice, the financial benefits it reaped from these agreements, and the lack of substantial contract defenses manifest a remarkably weak position. This combination of factors might render FSU’s complaint so inadequate to warrant dismissal under Rule 12(b)(6) for failing to state a cognizable claim for relief.

Meanwhile, the ACC’s case, on the other hand, seems robust, particularly regarding the claims of equitable estoppel and waiver. These legal principles appear to form a formidable barrier to FSU’s attempts to challenge the GOR agreements it previously agreed to and benefited from.

Otherwise, my extensive experience in intellectual property law leads me to firmly believe that the Grant of Rights is a copyright license and not a restraint on trade. (I am not making this up; the GOR literally has a detailed “Copyright and License” section.) FSU’s attempt to reframe it as an exit fee and raise antitrust concerns directly undermines the fundamental principles of intellectual property licensing and should not be permitted. The success of intellectual property licensing hinges on the stability and predictability of legal agreements, which FSU’s arguments directly threaten to disrupt.

Moreover, Florida’s statutory antitrust law cannot override the provisions of the Copyright Act, which governs rights such as public performance– a central issue in this case. The specific rights and mechanisms for the ownership, transfer, and licensing of copyrights under federal law (e.g., 17 U.S.C. §§ 106, 201) must be considered.

Finally, while outside the scope of my legal expertise, it’s evident that business dynamics, particularly ESPN’s role, may resolve this dispute. ESPN currently benefits from a favorable deal providing extensive content at a good value. Any decision to alter the existing arrangements with the ACC would likely be driven by the prospect of securing an even more advantageous deal with major college football players. However, such moves would have to navigate complex and, here, legitimate antitrust considerations, especially for smaller schools seeking greater access to lucrative media deals.

Put simply, while legal factors heavily favor the ACC, the ultimate resolution of this dispute may well be influenced by business considerations, particularly the actions of major broadcasters like ESPN. The unfolding of this saga will be crucial not only for FSU and the ACC but also for the broader landscape of college athletics and media rights.

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Fn. 1: While FSU’s lawsuit does include a “Frustration of Contractual Purpose” claim, it is presented in a highly conclusory manner without substantive elaboration or application of fact to law. Such a defense typically applies in scenarios of nonperformance, inability to perform, or when unforeseen events drastically alter the essence of a contract, rendering performance meaningless for one party. In the case of FSU and the ACC, there has been no inability to perform under the GOR, and unforeseen events have not rendered FSU’s performance worthless. On the contrary, despite it being less financially advantageous compared to other conferences, the GOR has not been “worthless.” FSU has indeed derived considerable value, amounting to millions, from the agreement. Therefore, the invocation of “frustration of purpose” in this context is intellectually untenable, meriting no further discussion beyond this footnote.

Fn. 2: To this point regarding the interplay between antitrust and copyright, there is a giant elephant in the room, and that is copyright preemption. Essentially, copyright preemption means that state laws, including Florida’s antitrust statutes, cannot grant or enforce rights that fall within the scope of federal copyright law. 17 U.S.C. § 301. In the context of FSU’s case in Leon County, where the ownership and public performance rights of football games are being challenged under state antitrust law, copyright preemption becomes significant. If FSU’s arguments hinge on rights that are fundamentally copyright issues, such as the right to publicly perform the football games, then these arguments might be superseded by federal copyright law. This preemption would suggest that the Leon County court is not the appropriate venue for deciding issues that are essentially governed by federal copyright law. Thus, the case would require analysis under federal statutes and potentially be moved to a federal court with the proper jurisdiction to handle copyright disputes. This issue is altogether worthy of an entirely separate article.

Also worthy of a separate article are the claims that ESPN and, say, Wake Forest, as intended third-party beneficiaries of the GOR, have against Florida State. Both could suffer significant damages by way of FSU’s antics. This is particularly true for Wake Forest, whose financial stability could be dramatically impacted if FSU’s actions leave it dangling in Winston-Salem. The same is true for other ACC schools, but Wake Forest’s damages would be astronomical.y, Florida (Tallahassee) and Mecklenburg County, North Carolina (Charlotte).

This isn't a 'legal analysis' so much as a fan polemic delivered in jargon to make it sound all ironclad and official-like. 'Conspicuous silence,' for example, is not a thing in contract law.

A number of other things are, though, and this is one: the stated expiration date on a legal obligation.

The world just learned that for ESPN that date is 2027.

Our 'analyst' feels no need to mention this to us. The detail remains significant, though. It suggests that even if a conference did 'win in court' a ruling that its GoR is valid, multiple schools could still afford to blow its taco stand. Very soon.

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FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that? If ESPN pulled out of its contract with the ACC, the GORs don't disappear. The ACC would still hold the grants of rights and would sell them to someone else.

What's amazing to me is that people can, at the same time, hold onto the belief that the ACC's contract with ESPN is horrible and that FSU and other ACC members are being terribly ripped off by ESPN which took advantage of an inept ACC Commissioner but that as soon as possible ESPN is going to drop this deal that's completely one-sided in their favor. In what universe does that make sense?
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(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that? If ESPN pulled out of its contract with the ACC, the GORs don't disappear. The ACC would still hold the grants of rights and would sell them to someone else.

Although I read that the GoR makes mention of the ESPN contact. If that's true, how could it outlive said contract?

(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  What's amazing to me is that people can, at the same time, hold onto the belief that the ACC's contract with ESPN is horrible and that FSU and other ACC members are being terribly ripped off by ESPN which took advantage of an inept ACC Commissioner but that as soon as possible ESPN is going to drop this deal that's completely one-sided in their favor. In what universe does that make sense?

^^^THIS^^^
Saying ESPN could drop the ACC contract doesn't explain why they would want to.
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(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that? If ESPN pulled out of its contract with the ACC, the GORs don't disappear. The ACC would still hold the grants of rights and would sell them to someone else.

Although I read that the GoR makes mention of the ESPN contact. If that's true, how could it outlive said contract?

(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  What's amazing to me is that people can, at the same time, hold onto the belief that the ACC's contract with ESPN is horrible and that FSU and other ACC members are being terribly ripped off by ESPN which took advantage of an inept ACC Commissioner but that as soon as possible ESPN is going to drop this deal that's completely one-sided in their favor. In what universe does that make sense?

^^^THIS^^^
Saying ESPN could drop the ACC contract doesn't explain why they would want to.

Would ESPN still want the ACC contract without FSU? If they do, then no harm was done. If they do not, then the ACC can go to market and possibly get a better deal that is not locked in for so long.
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(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 12:22 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  This isn't a 'legal analysis' so much as a fan polemic delivered in jargon to make it sound all ironclad and official-like. 'Conspicuous silence,' for example, is not a thing in contract law.

A number of other things are, though, and this is one: the stated expiration date on a legal obligation.

The world just learned that for ESPN that date is 2027.

Our 'analyst' feels no need to mention this to us. The detail remains significant, though. It suggests that even if a conference did 'win in court' a ruling that its GoR is valid, multiple schools could still afford to blow its taco stand. Very soon.

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FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that?
....

Excellent question. Now we're talking contract law.

At this point you might want to take a look at the copy of the ACC grant of rights document that's out there. See if and how ESPN is mentioned.

Remember as you do that a legally valid contract has three parts: an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

Now, for 572 million dollars: Which of these three things goes missing when a conference secures media rights from schools in the absence of media benefits from partners?

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(02-05-2024 03:34 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 12:22 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  This isn't a 'legal analysis' so much as a fan polemic delivered in jargon to make it sound all ironclad and official-like. 'Conspicuous silence,' for example, is not a thing in contract law.

A number of other things are, though, and this is one: the stated expiration date on a legal obligation.

The world just learned that for ESPN that date is 2027.

Our 'analyst' feels no need to mention this to us. The detail remains significant, though. It suggests that even if a conference did 'win in court' a ruling that its GoR is valid, multiple schools could still afford to blow its taco stand. Very soon.

07-coffee3

FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that?
....

Excellent question. Now we're talking contract law.

At this point you might want to take a look at the copy of the ACC grant of rights document that's out there. See if and how ESPN is mentioned.

Remember as you do that a legally valid contract has three parts: an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

Now, for 572 million dollars: Which of these three things goes missing when a conference secures media rights from schools in the absence of media benefits from partners?

04-wine

Of course, there was consideration at the time this was signed. FSU got to stay in the ACC. Of course, there would still be consideration, not that this need be proved, even if ESPN dropped the ACC, which seems awfully unlikely since you argue that the deal was terribly one-sided in ESPN's favor, since the ACC could sell the rights to someone else.

Your arguments don't even rise to the level of sophistry. They're just juvenile.

By the way, what fool at FSU signed the GOR deal without getting ANYTHING in return? What idiots were on the FSU board at the time who approved something so insane? Of course, your leaders are complete rubes today so maybe they were complete rubes back then as well.
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(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that? If ESPN pulled out of its contract with the ACC, the GORs don't disappear. The ACC would still hold the grants of rights and would sell them to someone else.

What's amazing to me is that people can, at the same time, hold onto the belief that the ACC's contract with ESPN is horrible and that FSU and other ACC members are being terribly ripped off by ESPN which took advantage of an inept ACC Commissioner but that as soon as possible ESPN is going to drop this deal that's completely one-sided in their favor. In what universe does that make sense?


Maybe "Florida Man Universe"?

But you pose the simple question, that seems sum everything up perfectly.

If the deal with ESPN is so one-sided in favor of ESPN, why on earth would ESPN voluntarily give it up with 8 or 9 years left on the deal?


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(02-05-2024 04:27 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 03:34 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 12:22 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  This isn't a 'legal analysis' so much as a fan polemic delivered in jargon to make it sound all ironclad and official-like. 'Conspicuous silence,' for example, is not a thing in contract law.

A number of other things are, though, and this is one: the stated expiration date on a legal obligation.

The world just learned that for ESPN that date is 2027.

Our 'analyst' feels no need to mention this to us. The detail remains significant, though. It suggests that even if a conference did 'win in court' a ruling that its GoR is valid, multiple schools could still afford to blow its taco stand. Very soon.

07-coffee3

FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that?
....

Excellent question. Now we're talking contract law.

At this point you might want to take a look at the copy of the ACC grant of rights document that's out there. See if and how ESPN is mentioned.

Remember as you do that a legally valid contract has three parts: an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

Now, for 572 million dollars: Which of these three things goes missing when a conference secures media rights from schools in the absence of media benefits from partners?

04-wine

Of course, there was consideration at the time this was signed. FSU got to stay in the ACC.

I'm sorry, but 03-lmfao

OK. Serious now. Going ahead.

Quote:Of course, there would still be consideration, not that this need be proved, even if ESPN dropped the ACC, which seems awfully unlikely since you argue that the deal was terribly one-sided in ESPN's favor, since the ACC could sell the rights to someone else.

....

By the way, what fool at FSU signed the GOR deal without getting ANYTHING in return? What idiots were on the FSU board at the time who approved something so insane? Of course, your leaders are complete rubes today so maybe they were complete rubes back then as well.

Interesting. Con artists talk exactly the way you talk in that last paragraph. Did you know that?

Con artists, embezzlers, and the like. They abuse a position of trust, then tell themselves that the people they defraud are fools for trusting them—so foolish that these rubes deserve to lose whatever property was theirs. They tell themselves that they personally are not thieves—just clever business people. They get what is 'really' theirs, even though it happens to have someone else's name on it, because they know how to 'win.'

Con artists tend to keep talking and thinking that way—clever them, idiot everybody else—right up until that moment in the deposition where, when shown spreadsheets and questioned under oath, they fall silent, then drop their heads and start crying.

The fact that you fall for a con doesn't make you the criminal and the con artist legit. It means you trusted someone who was unworthy of your trust. That is all. The misdeed is on the con side. It stays there, all along.

Remember this. The information may be useful to you one day.
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(02-06-2024 01:45 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 04:27 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 03:34 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 12:22 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  This isn't a 'legal analysis' so much as a fan polemic delivered in jargon to make it sound all ironclad and official-like. 'Conspicuous silence,' for example, is not a thing in contract law.

A number of other things are, though, and this is one: the stated expiration date on a legal obligation.

The world just learned that for ESPN that date is 2027.

Our 'analyst' feels no need to mention this to us. The detail remains significant, though. It suggests that even if a conference did 'win in court' a ruling that its GoR is valid, multiple schools could still afford to blow its taco stand. Very soon.

07-coffee3

FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that?
....

Excellent question. Now we're talking contract law.

At this point you might want to take a look at the copy of the ACC grant of rights document that's out there. See if and how ESPN is mentioned.

Remember as you do that a legally valid contract has three parts: an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

Now, for 572 million dollars: Which of these three things goes missing when a conference secures media rights from schools in the absence of media benefits from partners?

04-wine

Of course, there was consideration at the time this was signed. FSU got to stay in the ACC.

I'm sorry, but 03-lmfao

OK. Serious now. Going ahead.

Quote:Of course, there would still be consideration, not that this need be proved, even if ESPN dropped the ACC, which seems awfully unlikely since you argue that the deal was terribly one-sided in ESPN's favor, since the ACC could sell the rights to someone else.

....

By the way, what fool at FSU signed the GOR deal without getting ANYTHING in return? What idiots were on the FSU board at the time who approved something so insane? Of course, your leaders are complete rubes today so maybe they were complete rubes back then as well.

Interesting. Con artists talk exactly the way you talk in that last paragraph. Did you know that?

Con artists, embezzlers, and the like. They abuse a position of trust, then tell themselves that the people they defraud are fools for trusting them—so foolish that these rubes deserve to lose whatever property was theirs. They tell themselves that they personally are not thieves—just clever business people. They get what is 'really' theirs, even though it happens to have someone else's name on it, because they know how to 'win.'

Con artists tend to keep talking and thinking that way—clever them, idiot everybody else—right up until that moment in the deposition where, when shown spreadsheets and questioned under oath, they fall silent, then drop their heads and start crying.

The fact that you fall for a con doesn't make you the criminal and the con artist legit. It means you trusted someone who was unworthy of your trust. That is all. The misdeed is on the con side. It stays there, all along.

Remember this. The information may be useful to you one day.

Personal attacks is now the new strategy? 03-lmfao

You'll find that does not go over well in a court of law.
However, I suppose that if you have no chance to win a case on it's own merit, you do have to create a circus.
It's sort of like "if the glove doesn't fit....you must acquit".
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(02-06-2024 06:04 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(02-06-2024 01:45 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 04:27 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 03:34 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that?
....

Excellent question. Now we're talking contract law.

At this point you might want to take a look at the copy of the ACC grant of rights document that's out there. See if and how ESPN is mentioned.

Remember as you do that a legally valid contract has three parts: an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

Now, for 572 million dollars: Which of these three things goes missing when a conference secures media rights from schools in the absence of media benefits from partners?

04-wine

Of course, there was consideration at the time this was signed. FSU got to stay in the ACC.

I'm sorry, but 03-lmfao

OK. Serious now. Going ahead.

Quote:Of course, there would still be consideration, not that this need be proved, even if ESPN dropped the ACC, which seems awfully unlikely since you argue that the deal was terribly one-sided in ESPN's favor, since the ACC could sell the rights to someone else.

Your arguments don't even rise to the level of sophistry. They're just juvenile.

By the way, what fool at FSU signed the GOR deal without getting ANYTHING in return? What idiots were on the FSU board at the time who approved something so insane? Of course, your leaders are complete rubes today so maybe they were complete rubes back then as well.

Interesting. Con artists talk exactly the way you talk in that last paragraph. Did you know that?

Con artists, embezzlers, and the like. They abuse a position of trust, then tell themselves that the people they defraud are fools for trusting them—so foolish that these rubes deserve to lose whatever property was theirs. They tell themselves that they personally are not thieves—just clever business people. They get what is 'really' theirs, even though it happens to have someone else's name on it, because they know how to 'win.'

Con artists tend to keep talking and thinking that way—clever them, idiot everybody else—right up until that moment in the deposition where, when shown spreadsheets and questioned under oath, they fall silent, then drop their heads and start crying.

The fact that you fall for a con doesn't make you the criminal and the con artist legit. It means you trusted someone who was unworthy of your trust. That is all. The misdeed is on the con side. It stays there, all along.

Remember this. The information may be useful to you one day.

Personal attacks is now the new strategy? 03-lmfao

You'll find that does not go over well in a court of law.
However, I suppose that if you have no chance to win a case on it's own merit, you do have to create a circus.
It's sort of like "if the glove doesn't fit....you must acquit".
03-lol

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(02-06-2024 01:45 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 04:27 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 03:34 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 12:22 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  This isn't a 'legal analysis' so much as a fan polemic delivered in jargon to make it sound all ironclad and official-like. 'Conspicuous silence,' for example, is not a thing in contract law.

A number of other things are, though, and this is one: the stated expiration date on a legal obligation.

The world just learned that for ESPN that date is 2027.

Our 'analyst' feels no need to mention this to us. The detail remains significant, though. It suggests that even if a conference did 'win in court' a ruling that its GoR is valid, multiple schools could still afford to blow its taco stand. Very soon.

07-coffee3

FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that?
....

Excellent question. Now we're talking contract law.

At this point you might want to take a look at the copy of the ACC grant of rights document that's out there. See if and how ESPN is mentioned.

Remember as you do that a legally valid contract has three parts: an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

Now, for 572 million dollars: Which of these three things goes missing when a conference secures media rights from schools in the absence of media benefits from partners?

04-wine

Of course, there was consideration at the time this was signed. FSU got to stay in the ACC.

I'm sorry, but 03-lmfao

OK. Serious now. Going ahead.

Quote:Of course, there would still be consideration, not that this need be proved, even if ESPN dropped the ACC, which seems awfully unlikely since you argue that the deal was terribly one-sided in ESPN's favor, since the ACC could sell the rights to someone else.

....

By the way, what fool at FSU signed the GOR deal without getting ANYTHING in return? What idiots were on the FSU board at the time who approved something so insane? Of course, your leaders are complete rubes today so maybe they were complete rubes back then as well.

Interesting. Con artists talk exactly the way you talk in that last paragraph. Did you know that?

Con artists, embezzlers, and the like. They abuse a position of trust, then tell themselves that the people they defraud are fools for trusting them—so foolish that these rubes deserve to lose whatever property was theirs. They tell themselves that they personally are not thieves—just clever business people. They get what is 'really' theirs, even though it happens to have someone else's name on it, because they know how to 'win.'

Con artists tend to keep talking and thinking that way—clever them, idiot everybody else—right up until that moment in the deposition where, when shown spreadsheets and questioned under oath, they fall silent, then drop their heads and start crying.

The fact that you fall for a con doesn't make you the criminal and the con artist legit. It means you trusted someone who was unworthy of your trust. That is all. The misdeed is on the con side. It stays there, all along.

Remember this. The information may be useful to you one day.

FSU logic: ACC leadership is too dumb to negotiate with ESPN but smart enough to completely bamboozle FSU.
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(02-06-2024 09:58 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-06-2024 01:45 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 04:27 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 03:34 PM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(02-05-2024 01:29 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  FSU's contract with the ACC and its GOR runs through 2036. What does the ACC's contract with ESPN have to do with that?
....

Excellent question. Now we're talking contract law.

At this point you might want to take a look at the copy of the ACC grant of rights document that's out there. See if and how ESPN is mentioned.

Remember as you do that a legally valid contract has three parts: an offer, an acceptance, and consideration.

Now, for 572 million dollars: Which of these three things goes missing when a conference secures media rights from schools in the absence of media benefits from partners?

04-wine

Of course, there was consideration at the time this was signed. FSU got to stay in the ACC.

I'm sorry, but 03-lmfao

OK. Serious now. Going ahead.

Quote:Of course, there would still be consideration, not that this need be proved, even if ESPN dropped the ACC, which seems awfully unlikely since you argue that the deal was terribly one-sided in ESPN's favor, since the ACC could sell the rights to someone else.

....

By the way, what fool at FSU signed the GOR deal without getting ANYTHING in return? What idiots were on the FSU board at the time who approved something so insane? Of course, your leaders are complete rubes today so maybe they were complete rubes back then as well.

Interesting. Con artists talk exactly the way you talk in that last paragraph. Did you know that?

Con artists, embezzlers, and the like. They abuse a position of trust, then tell themselves that the people they defraud are fools for trusting them—so foolish that these rubes deserve to lose whatever property was theirs. They tell themselves that they personally are not thieves—just clever business people. They get what is 'really' theirs, even though it happens to have someone else's name on it, because they know how to 'win.'

Con artists tend to keep talking and thinking that way—clever them, idiot everybody else—right up until that moment in the deposition where, when shown spreadsheets and questioned under oath, they fall silent, then drop their heads and start crying.

The fact that you fall for a con doesn't make you the criminal and the con artist legit. It means you trusted someone who was unworthy of your trust. That is all. The misdeed is on the con side. It stays there, all along.

Remember this. The information may be useful to you one day.

FSU logic: ACC leadership is too dumb to negotiate with ESPN but smart enough to completely bamboozle FSU.

We rescued a really dumb kitten last year. It has half a brain.
https://firstvet.com/us/articles/cerebel...ia-in-cats

Maybe CH is endemic in the Florida Pan Handle. With half a brain our cat functions and he's not nearly as wobbly as he started, but he remains amazingly dumb.

Or maybe it's brain eating amoebas https://www.npr.org/2023/03/03/116098079...ing-amoeba

There are a lot of potential biohazards in Florida beyond lead and mercury.

Reading something more into "stupid" is akin to confirmation bias or other empirical research design failure. I think it is human nature to suspect a more sophisticated secret game when something that appears abjectly stupid with human behavior arises. It's like watching a kid toss a hammer straight up in the air - the natural reaction is to assume something more that sheer ignorance or stupidity.
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Just 1 neutral observer’s comment on the amended suit against the ACC.

Some details I did not know about until now. Many of these types of podcast are usually second rate, I thought both guys did a good job on the commentary and it was pleasurable to listen to. Whether you like their take or not, I think they did well enough for me to become a sub.
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