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Exclamation It's official: CFP will be 5+7

Top 5 champs plus top 7 non-champ at-large teams.

The money is still undecided, in part because the TV contract is not yet signed.

"One change they are close to agreeing on, according to multiple sources, is eliminating the contracts the New Year's Six bowls have with respective conferences in the new contract..." -- good for the ACC, since the Orange Bowl paid the least.
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Contracts are Ironclad so they can’t change right?
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(02-20-2024 12:53 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
Top 5 champs plus top 7 non-champ at-large teams.

The money is still undecided, in part because the TV contract is not yet signed.

"One change they are close to agreeing on, according to multiple sources, is eliminating the contracts the New Year's Six bowls have with respective conferences in the new contract..." -- good for the ACC, since the Orange Bowl paid the least.
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(02-20-2024 01:00 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Contracts are Ironclad so they can’t change right?

Well the NY6 contracts run out in 2025-26, if that's what you mean. I'm sure the SEC and B1G will continue to get more money than everyone else, but I would not expect the Big XII to continue getting more than the ACC now that their top teams are both gone. Plus, the Rose and Sugar bowls will both be playoffs hosts, so even under the terms of the original contract, they don't pay the $40M each to their contract leagues.
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And Heather Dinich commented on ESPN that ACC champ may not be one of top 4 and won’t get a first round bye.
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(02-20-2024 06:05 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  And Heather Dinich commented on ESPN that ACC champ may not be one of top 4 and won’t get a first round bye.

That's the ACC's media partner for ya.
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This is Awesome! FWIW: There is also no minimum ranking requirement. If the fifth-highest ranked conference champion is No. 25, it’s in. Only the four highest ranked conference champs get a first-round bye, though. Also There is also no limit on how many teams from one league can qualify. If there are seven SEC teams in, there are seven SEC teams in.
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(02-20-2024 06:05 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  And Heather Dinich commented on ESPN that ACC champ may not be one of top 4 and won’t get a first round bye.

Here is her actual statement "In most years, the 5+7 format will assure the conference champions from the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC a spot in the playoff, along with the highest-ranked Group of 5 conference champion. The CFP intentionally won't refer to the Group of 5 in its description of the format, though, because there is a chance that a champion from one of the Power 4 conferences finishes ranked below the top champion from the American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Mid-American Conference."

The ACC was not singled out.
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I crunched the number for the last 10 years using rankings at the end of the regular season.

The SEC would have placed 31 schools among the 120 slots. The B10 28, the ACC and B12 15, The Pac 12 13, and the ND 4. Technically one year ND played with the ACC but let that slide for now.

UNC, GT, Miami, and FSU would have made the playoffs in addition to the ACC Champ in years 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017. There is zero reason not to expect that going forward.
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(02-20-2024 09:28 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 06:05 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  And Heather Dinich commented on ESPN that ACC champ may not be one of top 4 and won’t get a first round bye.

Here is her actual statement "In most years, the 5+7 format will assure the conference champions from the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC a spot in the playoff, along with the highest-ranked Group of 5 conference champion. The CFP intentionally won't refer to the Group of 5 in its description of the format, though, because there is a chance that a champion from one of the Power 4 conferences finishes ranked below the top champion from the American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Mid-American Conference."

The ACC was not singled out.

Watch the video clip. I saw it live.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...am-playoff
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(02-20-2024 11:39 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 09:28 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 06:05 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  And Heather Dinich commented on ESPN that ACC champ may not be one of top 4 and won’t get a first round bye.

Here is her actual statement "In most years, the 5+7 format will assure the conference champions from the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC a spot in the playoff, along with the highest-ranked Group of 5 conference champion. The CFP intentionally won't refer to the Group of 5 in its description of the format, though, because there is a chance that a champion from one of the Power 4 conferences finishes ranked below the top champion from the American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Mid-American Conference."

The ACC was not singled out.

Watch the video clip. I saw it live.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...am-playoff

You are somewhat correct. I dont think that she was necessarily singling out the ACC but she gave an example of 2021 when Cinci, then a G5 program was ranked higher than Pitt the ACC champ. She hinted that in such a scenario, its not guaranteed that a P5 would get the top 5 spots.
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(02-21-2024 09:28 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 11:39 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 09:28 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 06:05 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  And Heather Dinich commented on ESPN that ACC champ may not be one of top 4 and won’t get a first round bye.

Here is her actual statement "In most years, the 5+7 format will assure the conference champions from the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC a spot in the playoff, along with the highest-ranked Group of 5 conference champion. The CFP intentionally won't refer to the Group of 5 in its description of the format, though, because there is a chance that a champion from one of the Power 4 conferences finishes ranked below the top champion from the American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Mid-American Conference."

The ACC was not singled out.

Watch the video clip. I saw it live.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...am-playoff

You are somewhat correct. I dont think that she was necessarily singling out the ACC but she gave an example of 2021 when Cinci, then a G5 program was ranked higher than Pitt the ACC champ. She hinted that in such a scenario, its not guaranteed that a P5 would get the top 5 spots.

This is a case of misunderstanding the real point being made. Because of legal issues, the CFP rules cannot guarantee any conference champ individually. If the SEC champ were the 5th-highest-ranked champ, they don't get a bye; if they're the 6th-highest, they aren't guaranteed a spot at all. Substitute any conference for SEC, it's true - but it doesn't mean what people are trying to make it mean.
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(02-21-2024 07:02 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(02-21-2024 09:28 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 11:39 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 09:28 PM)SouthernConfBoy Wrote:  
(02-20-2024 06:05 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  And Heather Dinich commented on ESPN that ACC champ may not be one of top 4 and won’t get a first round bye.

Here is her actual statement "In most years, the 5+7 format will assure the conference champions from the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC a spot in the playoff, along with the highest-ranked Group of 5 conference champion. The CFP intentionally won't refer to the Group of 5 in its description of the format, though, because there is a chance that a champion from one of the Power 4 conferences finishes ranked below the top champion from the American Athletic Conference, Conference USA, Mountain West, Sun Belt or Mid-American Conference."

The ACC was not singled out.

Watch the video clip. I saw it live.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...am-playoff

You are somewhat correct. I dont think that she was necessarily singling out the ACC but she gave an example of 2021 when Cinci, then a G5 program was ranked higher than Pitt the ACC champ. She hinted that in such a scenario, its not guaranteed that a P5 would get the top 5 spots.

This is a case of misunderstanding the real point being made. Because of legal issues, the CFP rules cannot guarantee any conference champ individually. If the SEC champ were the 5th-highest-ranked champ, they don't get a bye; if they're the 6th-highest, they aren't guaranteed a spot at all. Substitute any conference for SEC, it's true - but it doesn't mean what people are trying to make it mean.

If this were from somebody else, I wouldn't have a problem.

Heather Dinich doesn’t like the ACC and is often clueless.


A 16-team Big 12 would close the gap with the ACC -- and possibly put the Big 12 in third place financially behind the Big Ten and SEC. -- Heather Dinich


https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...rida-state
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