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RE: Official: MAC to add UMass as full member
(02-29-2024 10:47 PM)inutech Wrote:  
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(02-29-2024 03:33 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  It's official, UMass has accepted an invitation to join the MAC.

Mid-American Conference official release:

https://getsomemaction.com/news/2024/2/2...ember.aspx

UMass official release:

https://umassathletics.com/news/2024/2/2...ull-member

Western Kentucky and the C-USA are now on the clock.

Why?

Minimum number of schools is like 8. We have 11. All good.

If the C-USA loses WKU, they'll be down to 10. The days of small conferences are over. 10 is the new 8 and 12 is the new 10 for the MWC.
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I do not want WKU to leave, but 10 is better than 11 which is better than any 12 we could have

So we are good to go. Not on the clock in any sense.

Very much off the clock. Can't even see a clock from here. The ole sundial reads "no expansion needed o'clock."
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Our Football and Basketball collectives statements on the move.
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To be fair, if the UMass Mass Collective can afford to get some genuine power forwards for the UMass MBB team, it seems like UMass's future in MAC Basketball would be promising. It's a conference where a bit of size can go a long way.
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RE: Official: MAC to add UMass as full member
Blow to the A-10.

UMass has a solid NET ranking of 86 right now.

Solid enough that it would actually be the highest in the MAC.

So, based on this team, UMass went from not making the tourney in the A-10 to being the frontrunner in the MAC.

Smart move. Especially when you consider their football situation, that was untenable.

Anything else in terms of benefits is just gravy.
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(03-01-2024 09:20 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Blow to the A-10.

UMass has a solid NET ranking of 86 right now.

Solid enough that it would actually be the highest in the MAC.

So, based on this team, UMass went from not making the tourney in the A-10 to being the frontrunner in the MAC.

Smart move. Especially when you consider their football situation, that was untenable.

Anything else in terms of benefits is just gravy.
awesome move. actually surprised it went through.
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This should have happened long ago. If it had, Umass may have even been in AAC by now. This will help Umass football, and its BB will be one of the best in its new home. Buffalo will make good bridge team to rest of conference. UCONN fb could work a schedule balancer.
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(03-01-2024 10:04 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  This should have happened long ago. If it had, Umass may have even been in AAC by now. This will help Umass football, and its BB will be one of the best in its new home. Buffalo will make good bridge team to rest of conference. UCONN fb could work a schedule balancer.
the "stadium" is a joke. AAC isn't taking a 17,000 seat 60 year old stadium.
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(02-29-2024 11:04 PM)inutech Wrote:  I do not want WKU to leave, but 10 is better than 11 which is better than any 12 we could have

So we are good to go. Not on the clock in any sense.

Very much off the clock. Can't even see a clock from here. The ole sundial reads "no expansion needed o'clock."

We know you don't want expansion and understand why, but your conference's leadership has been thinking differently. If CUSA loses WKU or Delaware, staying at 10 is an option if they don't like the remaining FCS callup candidates, but I think target Tarleton St. and Missouri St. for 12. This gives CUSA options in terms of clean scheduling (1 protected rival, pods of 4, divisions of 6) in many sports and you're expanding within your footprint (especially if WKU stays and Delaware leaves). Obviously the TV partners need to pay for the move or it shouldn't happen. If they both choose to stay, then I think it's Missouri St. vs. Tarleton St. unless CUSA chooses to stay at 11.
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OOF this is terrible. Just when UMass was getting basketball back on track. Too little too late to try to build a football winner, and they just torpedoed basketball for this.

I feel bad for UMass fans. They're about to experience what it's like to try to get excited about opponents from other parts of the country that they have no history with. Welcome to the club. College athletics in the northeast are being ripped apart to chase college football money.
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(03-01-2024 08:06 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  Our Football and Basketball collectives statements on the move.
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Strongest G5 league? LOL
Leaving victorious? LOL

This is a good move for the football program at UMass; a bad move for the basketball program.

The propaganda piece is funny though.
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(02-29-2024 07:23 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 05:19 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 03:57 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 03:48 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Just when they set up a decent football schedule rotation they abandon it. UGH

https://www.hustlebelt.com/2023/11/30/23...ng-in-2024

No news has been forthcoming that they will abandon the scheduling groups. One presumes that UMass joins the Buffalo, Kent State, Akron group. If WKU joins, they likely join the Ohio, Miami, Ball State group.

I'm hopeful if WKU joins, they slide into the Miami/Ohio pod and Ball St. slides over to the NIU/Toledo/BG pod

What do you have against having Ball State in an Ohio / Miami / WKU / Ball State group?
NIU and Ball State have a rivalry trophy.

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(03-01-2024 11:57 AM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 07:23 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 05:19 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 03:57 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 03:48 PM)indianasniff Wrote:  Just when they set up a decent football schedule rotation they abandon it. UGH

https://www.hustlebelt.com/2023/11/30/23...ng-in-2024

No news has been forthcoming that they will abandon the scheduling groups. One presumes that UMass joins the Buffalo, Kent State, Akron group. If WKU joins, they likely join the Ohio, Miami, Ball State group.

I'm hopeful if WKU joins, they slide into the Miami/Ohio pod and Ball St. slides over to the NIU/Toledo/BG pod

What do you have against having Ball State in an Ohio / Miami / WKU / Ball State group?
NIU and Ball State have a rivalry trophy.

Has it generated a rivalry to go with it?
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(03-01-2024 12:06 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(03-01-2024 11:57 AM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 07:23 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 05:19 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 03:57 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  No news has been forthcoming that they will abandon the scheduling groups. One presumes that UMass joins the Buffalo, Kent State, Akron group. If WKU joins, they likely join the Ohio, Miami, Ball State group.

I'm hopeful if WKU joins, they slide into the Miami/Ohio pod and Ball St. slides over to the NIU/Toledo/BG pod

What do you have against having Ball State in an Ohio / Miami / WKU / Ball State group?
NIU and Ball State have a rivalry trophy.

Has it generated a rivalry to go with it?

Picky, picky, picky
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(03-01-2024 12:22 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(03-01-2024 12:06 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(03-01-2024 11:57 AM)WesternSkillet Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 07:23 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(02-29-2024 05:19 PM)mufanatehc Wrote:  I'm hopeful if WKU joins, they slide into the Miami/Ohio pod and Ball St. slides over to the NIU/Toledo/BG pod

What do you have against having Ball State in an Ohio / Miami / WKU / Ball State group?
NIU and Ball State have a rivalry trophy.

Has it generated a rivalry to go with it?

Picky, picky, picky

An open question, but I know that Penn State and Michigan State have the Land Grant Trophy, and yet now Penn State is marketing itself as "Unrivaled".
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(03-01-2024 08:06 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  Our Football and Basketball collectives statements on the move.
[Image: GHljQ3fXUAEIxTH?format=jpg&name=large]
Basketball
[Image: GHljQ3jXYAAOfw7?format=jpg&name=large]
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[Image: GHljQ3iX0AAxhCV?format=jpg&name=large]

This is an AMAZING logo. Riding the horse at midnight with a lantern as if it’s colonial times.
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(03-01-2024 01:31 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(03-01-2024 08:06 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  Our Football and Basketball collectives statements on the move.
[Image: GHljQ3fXUAEIxTH?format=jpg&name=large]
Basketball
[Image: GHljQ3jXYAAOfw7?format=jpg&name=large]
Football
[Image: GHljQ3iX0AAxhCV?format=jpg&name=large]

This is an AMAZING logo. Riding the horse at midnight with a lantern as if it’s colonial times.

Agreed. The Midnight Ride Collective did a fantastic job with that branding.
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(03-01-2024 11:45 AM)thecoffeecake Wrote:  OOF this is terrible. Just when UMass was getting basketball back on track. Too little too late to try to build a football winner, and they just torpedoed basketball for this.

I feel bad for UMass fans. They're about to experience what it's like to try to get excited about opponents from other parts of the country that they have no history with. Welcome to the club. College athletics in the northeast are being ripped apart to chase college football money.

Question? AAC just added Army for football which certainly benefits Temple. They have Navy. They have ECU and some programs in Florida. I don't think there is much else the AAC can do for Temple in football.

For basketball, if the AAC were to add a school that could potentially benefit Temple and you had your choice from this group, who would you add?

St Joe's
George Mason
Richmond
VCU
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(03-01-2024 11:45 AM)thecoffeecake Wrote:  OOF this is terrible. Just when UMass was getting basketball back on track. Too little too late to try to build a football winner, and they just torpedoed basketball for this.

I feel bad for UMass fans. They're about to experience what it's like to try to get excited about opponents from other parts of the country that they have no history with. Welcome to the club. College athletics in the northeast are being ripped apart to chase college football money.
does that include Temple?
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