Don't get triggered by the thumb nail, lot's of good info here. I did a similar thread a little while ago, but the presentation on this video is way better.
I see lot's of room for improvement. Things to know:
1) In the comments section of a related video someone reminded me that spectrum had a carriage dispute with ESPN, with most of the ACC games on one of the ESPN networks it probably impacted the ACC ratings a bit.
2) FSU brings the ratings (duh!)
3) Playoff contenders bring the ratings even against bad teams. I gathered this from watching multiple videos from other conferences. Teams that were undefeated or with 1 loss still in the playoff hunt late in the season still had good ratings vs bad opponents.
4) Big OOC games do very well. Not just the mega matchups like FSU vs LSU, but Duke vs ND, UVA vs UT-k, Miami vs aTm, SU vs Pur did decent.
5) Competitive games vs playoff contenders draw viewers. It's important not to completely suck.
(This post was last modified: 03-04-2024 06:45 PM by Garrettabc.)
Don't get triggered by the thumb nail, lot's of good info here. I did a similar thread a little while ago, but the presentation on this video is way better.
I see lot's of room for improvement. Things to know:
1) In the comments section of a related video someone reminded me that spectrum had a carriage dispute with ESPN, with most of the ACC games on one of the ESPN networks it probably impacted the ACC ratings a bit.
2) FSU brings the ratings (duh!)
3) Playoff contenders bring the ratings even against bad teams. I gathered this from watching multiple videos from other conferences. Teams that were undefeated or with 1 loss still in the playoff hunt late in the season still had good ratings vs bad opponents.
4) Big OOC games do very well. Not just the mega matchups like FSU vs LSU, but Duke vs ND, UVA vs UT-k, Miami vs aTm, SU vs Pur did decent.
5) Competitive games vs playoff contenders draw viewers. It's important not to completely suck.
(03-04-2024 05:10 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 5) Competitive games vs playoff contenders draw viewers. It's important not to completely suck.
Points well put. Especially #5.
This is what Lou C used to preach here all the time: ACC teams CANNOT afford to lose more than one OOC game per year (and it's best if they go 4-0)! If you have to schedule easier games to achieve that, do it!
(This post was last modified: 03-05-2024 11:54 AM by Hokie Mark.)
(03-04-2024 05:10 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 5) Competitive games vs playoff contenders draw viewers. It's important not to completely suck.
Points well put. Especially #5.
This is what Lou C used to preach here all the time: ACC teams CANNOT afford to lose more than one OOC game per year (and it's best if they go 4-0)! If you have to schedule easier games to achieve that, do it!
It goes back to not completely suck. VT should have ran the table on their OOC opponents last season, it was very manageable and just about perfect for a team in a rebuild. Not trying to pick on VT, but there are numerous examples of this happening year after year and yes even FSU lost to Jax. St. in 2021 as well as had ND on the ropes, just did not finish the job.
The point I was trying to hammer home is just being competitive enough to entertain the audience even if you lose, preferably in conference.
(This post was last modified: 03-05-2024 12:18 PM by Garrettabc.)
(03-04-2024 05:10 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 5) Competitive games vs playoff contenders draw viewers. It's important not to completely suck.
Points well put. Especially #5.
This is what Lou C used to preach here all the time: ACC teams CANNOT afford to lose more than one OOC game per year (and it's best if they go 4-0)! If you have to schedule easier games to achieve that, do it!
It goes back to not completely suck. VT should have ran the table on their OOC opponents last season, it was very manageable and just about perfect for a team in a rebuild. Not trying to pick on VT, but there are numerous examples of this happening year after year and yes even FSU lost to Jax. St. in 2021 as well as had ND on the ropes, just did not finish the job.
The point I was trying to hammer home is just being competitive enough to entertain the audience even if you lose, preferably in conference.
Yep. If you want people to watch your conference games, you need to win most/all of you non-conference games. It's really that simple.
Comparing schools ratings only work if you compare apples to apples. If FSU gets on ABC and has great ratings (and they do) then compare that to UNCCH on ABC. If NCSU is on the ACCN then compare that to Syracuse on the ACCN. If WF is on the CW compare that to UVA on the CW. Saying how great FSU ratings are and how bad WF ratings are when FSU has numerous appearances on ABC and WF is mostly seen on the ACCN, ESPNU and CW is apples to oranges. And that's not even considering time slots and the games they are competing with in that time slot. And before anyone says anything, I know we don't have ACCN data yet.
(03-04-2024 05:10 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 5) Competitive games vs playoff contenders draw viewers. It's important not to completely suck.
Points well put. Especially #5.
This is what Lou C used to preach here all the time: ACC teams CANNOT afford to lose more than one OOC game per year (and it's best if they go 4-0)! If you have to schedule easier games to achieve that, do it!
It goes back to not completely suck. VT should have ran the table on their OOC opponents last season, it was very manageable and just about perfect for a team in a rebuild. Not trying to pick on VT, but there are numerous examples of this happening year after year and yes even FSU lost to Jax. St. in 2021 as well as had ND on the ropes, just did not finish the job.
The point I was trying to hammer home is just being competitive enough to entertain the audience even if you lose, preferably in conference.
Yep. If you want people to watch your conference games, you need to win most/all of you non-conference games. It's really that simple.
Many ACC schools schedule games with local / regional interest against G5 schools that have a shot of beating them. I'd much rather watch VT play JMU, NCSU play East Carolina or UNCCH play Appalachian State than I would want to watch any of these schools play some schools with no tie in with the school they are playing and no chance to be competitive. It seems that schools in the other power conferences schedule a lot fewer competitive games in favor of no risk padding of their won loss records. I realize this might hurt ratings later in the season if they take an L in one or more of them, but it makes for some boring games and artifically inflated records.
(03-05-2024 04:05 PM)dawgitall Wrote: Comparing schools ratings only work if you compare apples to apples. If FSU gets on ABC and has great ratings (and they do) then compare that to UNCCH on ABC. If NCSU is on the ACCN then compare that to Syracuse on the ACCN. If WF is on the CW compare that to UVA on the CW. Saying how great FSU ratings are and how bad WF ratings are when FSU has numerous appearances on ABC and WF is mostly seen on the ACCN, ESPNU and CW is apples to oranges. And that's not even considering time slots and the games they are competing with in that time slot. And before anyone says anything, I know we don't have ACCN data yet.
Those factors are not lost on me. FSU had a better than usual ratings year and WFU had a more than usual bad ratings year. It should be noted that WFU is consistently at the bottom in the ACC ratings year in year out.
Duke won the scheduling jackpot with at least 3 games on prime time and all 3 were among the top 10 rated games in the ACC. This is a good example of what being competitive can get you + getting the right opponent at the right time.
(This post was last modified: 03-05-2024 04:24 PM by Garrettabc.)
