Here's a breakdown of post-season NCAA and NIT bids by SBC, MWC, AAC, MAC, and CUSA for comparison:

MWC (7 bids - 6 NCAA, 1 NIT)
-NCAA: CSU, BSU, Nevada, SDSU, UNM, Utah State
-NIT: UNLV

AAC (5 bids - 2 NCAA, 3 NIT)
-NCAA: FAU, UAB
-NIT: UNT, USF, SMU

SBC (2 bids - 1 NCAA, 1 NIT)
-NCAA: JMU
-NIT: App State

MAC (1 bid - NCAA)
-NCAA: Akron
-NIT: none

CUSA (1 bid - NCAA)
-NCAA: WKU
-NIT: none

AAC Champ: 12 seed
CUSA Champ: 15 seed
MAC Champ: 14 seed
MWC Champ: 11 seed
SBC Champ: 12 seed

AAC at-large: 8 seed
MWC at-larges: 5 seed, 8 seed, 10 seed, 10 seed play in, 10 seed play in, 11 seed

Nice breakdown guys. Thanks

Seems like all the shuffling left a vacuum and the MWC stepped up and filled it. SMU is gone, so not part of any future bids. But I doubt Memphis will be out of any post-season for long.

The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Maybe they do, but SDSU last year made the championship and that is worth its weight in gold (like actual literal gold because it means a lot of money for the conference).

So maybe instead of dissing them, we should copy them and play cream-puff eastern teams in OOC.

Interesting article on the teams that snubbed the NIT this year including Ole Miss; Memphis; St Johns; Indiana and Oklahoma.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/l...r-BB1k62Bt

You have to wonder if the above teams accepted the bids, how many of the teams listed in this tread wouldn't have received a bid to the NIT this year?

(03-18-2024 11:44 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Interesting article on the teams that snubbed the NIT this year including Ole Miss; Memphis; St Johns; Indiana and Oklahoma.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/l...r-BB1k62Bt

You have to wonder if the above teams accepted the bids, how many of the teams listed in this tread wouldn't have received a bid to the NIT this year?

Wonder how much this has to do with no power teams making the finals last year. Like turning down a bowl to avoid another loss.

(03-18-2024 12:42 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:44 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Interesting article on the teams that snubbed the NIT this year including Ole Miss; Memphis; St Johns; Indiana and Oklahoma.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/l...r-BB1k62Bt

You have to wonder if the above teams accepted the bids, how many of the teams listed in this tread wouldn't have received a bid to the NIT this year?

Wonder how much this has to do with no power teams making the finals last year. Like turning down a bowl to avoid another loss.

Yeah was it the players or the coaches? I'd be pissed if I was on the team, especially if I was a senior with no chance for the NBA. I'd want every chance I could get to play one last game.

(03-18-2024 11:32 AM)Dukes_Royals Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Maybe they do, but SDSU last year made the championship and that is worth its weight in gold (like actual literal gold because it means a lot of money for the conference).

So maybe instead of dissing them, we should copy them and play cream-puff eastern teams in OOC.

Here were some of the cream-puffs that San Diego State played in their OOC schedule last season: BYU, Stanford, Ohio State, St. Mary's, Arizona, and Arkansas (which was good last year) going 3-3 against those teams. This season they played BYU, St. Mary's, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Gonzaga, and Grand Canyon with a record of 5-2.

Does that accurately reflect the cream-puff schedule you were referring to?!!

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Boise State didn’t play a cream puff schedule.
26th toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 8 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 4-4 against them.

San Diego State didn’t play a cream puff schedule
9th toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 6 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 4-2 against them.

Colorado State didn’t play a cream puff schedule
52nd toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 6 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 5-1 against them.

The MWC’s NET is high because their teams played good teams and BEAT good teams.

(03-18-2024 12:42 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:44 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Interesting article on the teams that snubbed the NIT this year including Ole Miss; Memphis; St Johns; Indiana and Oklahoma.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/l...r-BB1k62Bt

You have to wonder if the above teams accepted the bids, how many of the teams listed in this tread wouldn't have received a bid to the NIT this year?

Wonder how much this has to do with no power teams making the finals last year. Like turning down a bowl to avoid another loss.

Add Pitt to that list as well. Apparently many of the bigger conference teams don't find the juice worth the squeeze financially. My father is a Pitt alum and they received a detailed email this morning about the decision to reject, citing financial concerns.

I interpreted it as a lot of BS, especially considering how much money some of these schools get and will likely continue to get from football media rights. I wouldn't be surprised if all P5s start getting pressure from their conference mates and commissioners to reject these moving forward and further solidify the P4 separation future.

(03-18-2024 05:09 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 12:42 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:44 AM)Flat Tire 2 Wrote:  Interesting article on the teams that snubbed the NIT this year including Ole Miss; Memphis; St Johns; Indiana and Oklahoma.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/l...r-BB1k62Bt

You have to wonder if the above teams accepted the bids, how many of the teams listed in this tread wouldn't have received a bid to the NIT this year?

Wonder how much this has to do with no power teams making the finals last year. Like turning down a bowl to avoid another loss.

Add Pitt to that list as well. Apparently many of the bigger conference teams don't find the juice worth the squeeze financially. My father is a Pitt alum and they received a detailed email this morning about the decision to reject, citing financial concerns.

I interpreted it as a lot of BS, especially considering how much money some of these schools get and will likely continue to get from football media rights. I wouldn't be surprised if all P5s start getting pressure from their conference mates and commissioners to reject these moving forward and further solidify the P4 separation future.

Make sure the NCAA has max value before they take it over.

(03-18-2024 04:36 PM)bigbelly Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:32 AM)Dukes_Royals Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Maybe they do, but SDSU last year made the championship and that is worth its weight in gold (like actual literal gold because it means a lot of money for the conference).

So maybe instead of dissing them, we should copy them and play cream-puff eastern teams in OOC.

Here were some of the cream-puffs that San Diego State played in their OOC schedule last season: BYU, Stanford, Ohio State, St. Mary's, Arizona, and Arkansas (which was good last year) going 3-3 against those teams. This season they played BYU, St. Mary's, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Gonzaga, and Grand Canyon with a record of 5-2.

Does that accurately reflect the cream-puff schedule you were referring to?!!

Maybe you were responding to the wrong person, since I didn't call them directly cream puffs. Honestly didn't take the time to look them up then, but boy were they not cream puffs. But they were also full of mid-major games and not many P5s from my research.

Kinda crazy though the 4 worst teams in the conference by far played the weakest schedules.

(03-18-2024 04:36 PM)bigbelly Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:32 AM)Dukes_Royals Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Maybe they do, but SDSU last year made the championship and that is worth its weight in gold (like actual literal gold because it means a lot of money for the conference).

So maybe instead of dissing them, we should copy them and play cream-puff eastern teams in OOC.

Here were some of the cream-puffs that San Diego State played in their OOC schedule last season: BYU, Stanford, Ohio State, St. Mary's, Arizona, and Arkansas (which was good last year) going 3-3 against those teams. This season they played BYU, St. Mary's, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Gonzaga, and Grand Canyon with a record of 5-2.

Does that accurately reflect the cream-puff schedule you were referring to?!!

BYU= monster creampuff
Stanford/the Ferd= average creampuff
Ohio State= another monster creampuff
Arkansas= seriously now, no joke here: SEC creampuff!!
I suppose St. Mary's & 'Zona are legit teams.

P.S. really legit SEC teams would be Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and maybe Tennessee
Arkansas hasn't been good since Mike Anderson, IMO, and even he flamed out.

(03-18-2024 08:00 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 04:36 PM)bigbelly Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:32 AM)Dukes_Royals Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Maybe they do, but SDSU last year made the championship and that is worth its weight in gold (like actual literal gold because it means a lot of money for the conference).

So maybe instead of dissing them, we should copy them and play cream-puff eastern teams in OOC.

Here were some of the cream-puffs that San Diego State played in their OOC schedule last season: BYU, Stanford, Ohio State, St. Mary's, Arizona, and Arkansas (which was good last year) going 3-3 against those teams. This season they played BYU, St. Mary's, Stanford, Cal, Washington, Gonzaga, and Grand Canyon with a record of 5-2.

Does that accurately reflect the cream-puff schedule you were referring to?!!

BYU= monster creampuff
Stanford/the Ferd= average creampuff
Ohio State= another monster creampuff
Arkansas= seriously now, no joke here: SEC creampuff!!
I suppose St. Mary's & 'Zona are legit teams.

P.S. really legit SEC teams would be Florida, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, and maybe Tennessee
Arkansas hasn't been good since Mike Anderson, IMO, and even he flamed out.

Two Elite 8s and a Sweet 16 says otherwise.

Indiana opting out is akin to them quitting before being fired. They weren't gonna make it anyway.

The decision seems especially interesting for Memphis. Dressing for the job they want?

(03-18-2024 04:46 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Boise State didn’t play a cream puff schedule.
26th toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 8 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 4-4 against them.

San Diego State didn’t play a cream puff schedule
9th toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 6 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 4-2 against them.

Colorado State didn’t play a cream puff schedule
52nd toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 6 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 5-1 against them.

The MWC’s NET is high because their teams played good teams and BEAT good teams.

I found the crying from other leagues (notably the "Power" ones) about MWC "gaming" the system to be pretty funny. If winning a bunch of games against good teams is "gaming" the system then the system is pretty solid.

(03-19-2024 07:58 AM)freshtop Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 04:46 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Boise State didn’t play a cream puff schedule.
26th toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 8 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 4-4 against them.

San Diego State didn’t play a cream puff schedule
9th toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 6 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 4-2 against them.

Colorado State didn’t play a cream puff schedule
52nd toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 6 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 5-1 against them.

The MWC’s NET is high because their teams played good teams and BEAT good teams.

I found the crying from other leagues (notably the "Power" ones) about MWC "gaming" the system to be pretty funny. If winning a bunch of games against good teams is "gaming" the system then the system is pretty solid.

P5 should be rebranded as the Spoiled5

(03-20-2024 07:16 AM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 07:58 AM)freshtop Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 04:46 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(03-18-2024 11:18 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The Mountain West plays cream-puff western teams to inflate their rankings but they'll be out of the tournament very soon like every year.

Boise State didn’t play a cream puff schedule.
26th toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 8 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 4-4 against them.

San Diego State didn’t play a cream puff schedule
9th toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 6 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 4-2 against them.

Colorado State didn’t play a cream puff schedule
52nd toughest OOC schedule in the nation.
They played 6 OOC teams in the top 100. Went 5-1 against them.

The MWC’s NET is high because their teams played good teams and BEAT good teams.

I found the crying from other leagues (notably the "Power" ones) about MWC "gaming" the system to be pretty funny. If winning a bunch of games against good teams is "gaming" the system then the system is pretty solid.

P5 should be rebranded as the Spoiled5

Most of the P5 are the equivalent of welfare queens who accept the culture of mediocrity for checks