(03-19-2024 01:34 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 12:46 PM)otown Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 12:42 PM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll answer despite the fact you probably blocked me long ago

1. I Believe the value is there despite the loss of FSU and Clemson. There are many strong brands and markets remaining plus the moneymaking ACCN which doesn’t have much to do with football.

2. I’ve done this calculation. Unless you believe the SEC or Big Ten are going to receive a larger share than the other by wrangling in FSU and Clemson, it seems obvious the ACC loses $42m /year from their CFP payout. Dividing that by 15, the conference is still the third highest paid by the CFP.

Maybe best to wait and see how the three lawsuits develop though. I have a feeling we might see another filed by the conference soon.

I believe you would be wrong about #2. The CFP payout would drop, and probably lower than the Big 12. Why do I say that? Well, the CFP payout was weighted for amount of participants in the CFP. If you remove FSU and Clemson, has the ACC even had a participant? Big 12 at least has Cincy and TCU as data points.

If the perceived value of Alabama averages at $21m/year, how can FSU be worth more than that?

The Big Ten and SEC are equal, yet the SEC has more CFP appearances.

The Big Ten makes out b/c they have a ton of alumni watching on tv, even if only a few of their stadia are as large and as filled as the SEC's.

(03-19-2024 04:46 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 01:34 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 12:46 PM)otown Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 12:42 PM)esayem Wrote:  I’ll answer despite the fact you probably blocked me long ago

1. I Believe the value is there despite the loss of FSU and Clemson. There are many strong brands and markets remaining plus the moneymaking ACCN which doesn’t have much to do with football.

2. I’ve done this calculation. Unless you believe the SEC or Big Ten are going to receive a larger share than the other by wrangling in FSU and Clemson, it seems obvious the ACC loses $42m /year from their CFP payout. Dividing that by 15, the conference is still the third highest paid by the CFP.

Maybe best to wait and see how the three lawsuits develop though. I have a feeling we might see another filed by the conference soon.

I believe you would be wrong about #2. The CFP payout would drop, and probably lower than the Big 12. Why do I say that? Well, the CFP payout was weighted for amount of participants in the CFP. If you remove FSU and Clemson, has the ACC even had a participant? Big 12 at least has Cincy and TCU as data points.

If the perceived value of Alabama averages at $21m/year, how can FSU be worth more than that?

The Big Ten and SEC are equal, yet the SEC has more CFP appearances.

The Big Ten makes out b/c they have a ton of alumni watching on tv, even if only a few of their stadia are as large and as filled as the SEC's.

I believe the Big 12 have more playoffs appearances than the Big 10. The AAC and MWC does have more major bowl bids combined. WAC is not FBS anymore, but Boise State's record and bowls make them the last major G5 school that went to the big bowls not taken by a P5 conference.

(03-19-2024 12:34 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  1. Does ESPN exercise its option by Feb. 1, 2025 to extend its ACC media rights deal from 2027-2036?

2. The ACC is collectively scheduled to received 17.1% of the CFP media rights revenue starting with the 2026 playoff. What percentage will that share be if FSU and Clemson are no longer in the ACC by the 2026 season?

ESPN may try to cut the payout, but I am very certain that they will extend the contract with the ACC.

(03-19-2024 12:34 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  1. Does ESPN exercise its option by Feb. 1, 2025 to extend its ACC media rights deal from 2027-2036?

2. The ACC is collectively scheduled to received 17.1% of the CFP media rights revenue starting with the 2026 playoff. What percentage will that share be if FSU and Clemson are no longer in the ACC by the 2026 season?

1) No, unless both FSU and Clemson (and anyone else) have lost their court cases by that time.

2) if they have only lost FSU and Clemson, they drop to roughly B12 levels or a bit less. If more are gone there is no bottom number they could drop to if the carnage is bad enough could be G5, Pac12 numbers if things get bad enough between the P2 and B12.

(03-19-2024 12:34 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  1. Does ESPN exercise its option by Feb. 1, 2025 to extend its ACC media rights deal from 2027-2036?

2. The ACC is collectively scheduled to received 17.1% of the CFP media rights revenue starting with the 2026 playoff. What percentage will that share be if FSU and Clemson are no longer in the ACC by the 2026 season?

1. Yes but as a bargaining chip. ESPN come in on it's white horse and facilitates the move of FSU & Clemson to the SEC. In the exchange, they agree to maintain the existing level (no loss of revenue means no settlement needed) and it provides funds to expand.

2. No... There is a certain amount of balance that has to be maintained so that a group of schools do not get it in their heads that they might be the ones in charge. The SEC (ESPN)/B1G (Fox) is balanced but if there is no equal partner for the Big 12 why would they not be seen as the conference that could change the balance of power (at least in their minds)? When the Pac12 asked for too much, the Big12 swooped in and took the deal. If the ACC no longer exists as a comparable conference why would the Big12 not think they are deserving of more money especially if they are so far behind the P2 and getting further each year? Just don't take the chance.

(03-19-2024 12:34 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  1. Does ESPN exercise its option by Feb. 1, 2025 to extend its ACC media rights deal from 2027-2036?

2. The ACC is collectively scheduled to received 17.1% of the CFP media rights revenue starting with the 2026 playoff. What percentage will that share be if FSU and Clemson are no longer in the ACC by the 2026 season?

1. Yes

1. 17.1% (the deal is already signed)

(03-21-2024 07:17 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(03-19-2024 12:34 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  1. Does ESPN exercise its option by Feb. 1, 2025 to extend its ACC media rights deal from 2027-2036?

2. The ACC is collectively scheduled to received 17.1% of the CFP media rights revenue starting with the 2026 playoff. What percentage will that share be if FSU and Clemson are no longer in the ACC by the 2026 season?

1. Yes

1. 17.1% (the deal is already signed)

The deal is already signed, but I believe it was reported there is a clause that terms can be revisited if there are any "material realignment moves."