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(03-22-2024 03:16 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(03-21-2024 10:19 PM)ZCat Wrote:  

(03-21-2024 04:22 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I think it was 9 games that we lost by 5 points or less.

So if just two of the multitude of missed 3's in each of those games go in, we would have been 27-4.

Twenty seven... and... four. We're probably at least a 2 seed. THIS team.

And we're a spoiled fan for being frustrated???? Come on, man.

I respectfully disagree. If we are playing a little bit better, the other team clamps down and also focuses better. We were inferior than several of those teams so I could see us winning two of them but the other ones it would be a crapshoot.

It's not just that. It's also that his statistics are ignoring the close games we won.

In regular season games that were within one possession (3 points) at the end of regulation, we went 5-3.

Howard - won in OT
Texas - lost by 1
Baylor - lost by 3
TCU - won in OT
Texas Tech - won by 3
UCF - won by 2
Kansas State - won by 2
Oklahoma - lost in OT

OK...

Make two more three pointers in EVERY game and we don't go to OT with Howard and TCU and beat everybody else by six more points.

We're not talking about a lot here. It's a mere two shots a game that would have drastically changed our season.

A lot of the game UC played that were close had no business being close. Howard, @WVU, @UCF, @OU, and Oklahoma State, and San Francisco were all games that needed to be closed out without things hectic at the end. Two games WVU in KC and home vs TCU the Cats has no business winning considering how much they were down at times. The rest pretty much were true coin flip type games that I don’t feel UC or the opponent were clearly the better team that day.

(03-22-2024 03:29 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(03-22-2024 03:16 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(03-21-2024 10:19 PM)ZCat Wrote:  

(03-21-2024 04:22 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I think it was 9 games that we lost by 5 points or less.

So if just two of the multitude of missed 3's in each of those games go in, we would have been 27-4.

Twenty seven... and... four. We're probably at least a 2 seed. THIS team.

And we're a spoiled fan for being frustrated???? Come on, man.

I respectfully disagree. If we are playing a little bit better, the other team clamps down and also focuses better. We were inferior than several of those teams so I could see us winning two of them but the other ones it would be a crapshoot.

It's not just that. It's also that his statistics are ignoring the close games we won.

In regular season games that were within one possession (3 points) at the end of regulation, we went 5-3.

Howard - won in OT
Texas - lost by 1
Baylor - lost by 3
TCU - won in OT
Texas Tech - won by 3
UCF - won by 2
Kansas State - won by 2
Oklahoma - lost in OT

OK...

Make two more three pointers in EVERY game and we don't go to OT with Howard and TCU and beat everybody else by six more points.

We're not talking about a lot here. It's a mere two shots a game that would have drastically changed our season.

Two shots a game is huge.

We averaged 7.32 for 22.62 on 3-pointers per game, which is 32.4%. 2 more made shots would be 41.2%.

Only three teams in the country shot better than 40% from 3: Kentucky, Purdue, and Dayton.

You're saying that if we were #1 in the country rather than #264 in 3-point shooting, we would have won more games.

Well yeah, I guess that's true. But you're acting as if that's just a small tweak. In reality, it would require a fundamental change in the quality of any team's roster to make such a huge change.

(03-22-2024 08:56 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(03-21-2024 10:19 PM)ZCat Wrote:  

(03-21-2024 04:22 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I think it was 9 games that we lost by 5 points or less.

So if just two of the multitude of missed 3's in each of those games go in, we would have been 27-4.

Twenty seven... and... four. We're probably at least a 2 seed. THIS team.

And we're a spoiled fan for being frustrated???? Come on, man.

I respectfully disagree. If we are playing a little bit better, the other team clamps down and also focuses better. We were inferior than several of those teams so I could see us winning two of them but the other ones it would be a crapshoot.

Wait, ...what??

Isn't that what they already did???

Are you the guy who once said that missed free throws don't affect the outcome of a game because it would change the flow of the game from there on if you made them???

Of course not. That’s ridiculous. What I said was accurate. People Oversimplify it. Oh if we could’ve just scored four more baskets. Well same goes for both teams.

Like run an efficient alley oop? They were better in the last couple of weeks, but just wasting good possessions up until

(03-22-2024 09:45 PM)bww Wrote:  Like run an efficient alley oop? They were better in the last couple of weeks, but just wasting good possessions up until

I've seen three major issues that have missed up our oops, two we can control.

1. Inaccurate passes. For example, day Day sailed at least one, jizzle threw one that barely got above the rim and was right by the rim).

2. Sometimes when the throw isn't great Aziz tries to make the difficult finish instead of just landing and jumping. The back ward tip late in the last game is probably the most extreme example but there have been so many times this year where the throw is off for whatever reason but close enough that he could just land and go back up and he tries a near impossible finish.

3. Refs have let land shove Aziz in mid air far too many times. Feels like that's a back they make so often but aziz almost never gets and it happens all the time.

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but we have to get better at taking care of the ball from the PG position. Day Day is currently ranked 252nd in NCAA assist/turnover ratio. 116 assists. 74 turnovers. 1.57. Some of his lazy passes and losing the ball in traffic is mind numbing. Give me a point guard who scores a bit less but takes care of the ball and gets the ball where it needs to be consistently. I hope this kid is kept locked in the gym during the offseason and works on this part of his game.

Simas is even worse ranked 273rd. 99 assists. 66 turnovers. 1.50

As a team, Cincinnati is ranked 125th. Not a surprise from what we've witnessed this season.

(03-22-2024 10:55 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but we have to get better at taking care of the ball from the PG position. Day Day is currently ranked 252nd in NCAA assist/turnover ratio. 116 assists. 74 turnovers. 1.57. Some of his lazy passes and losing the ball in traffic is mind numbing. Give me a point guard who scores a bit less but takes care of the ball and gets the ball where it needs to be consistently. I hope this kid is kept locked in the gym during the offseason and works on this part of his game.

Simas is even worse ranked 273rd. 99 assists. 66 turnovers. 1.50

As a team, Cincinnati is ranked 125th. Not a surprise from what we've witnessed this season.

That seems like a both a reflection of the players and Wes. This team needed better ball handling but also a coach the micromanages the game. For Wes to be very successful he is going to need a true floor general out there. A coach on the court type of player that can take care of the ball and play smart.

Since Wes isn’t going to become Mick Cronin and basically call the game from the sidelines the need for talented high basketball IQ player becomes even more necessary. I would say only Simas and Newman come close to that in your main rotation. Jizzle might get there but the rest of your core roster while talented lacks the experience and basketball savvy needed to lead this team next season.

(03-23-2024 07:42 AM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  

(03-22-2024 10:55 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but we have to get better at taking care of the ball from the PG position. Day Day is currently ranked 252nd in NCAA assist/turnover ratio. 116 assists. 74 turnovers. 1.57. Some of his lazy passes and losing the ball in traffic is mind numbing. Give me a point guard who scores a bit less but takes care of the ball and gets the ball where it needs to be consistently. I hope this kid is kept locked in the gym during the offseason and works on this part of his game.

Simas is even worse ranked 273rd. 99 assists. 66 turnovers. 1.50

As a team, Cincinnati is ranked 125th. Not a surprise from what we've witnessed this season.

That seems like a both a reflection of the players and Wes. This team needed better ball handling but also a coach the micromanages the game. For Wes to be very successful he is going to need a true floor general out there. A coach on the court type of player that can take care of the ball and play smart.

Since Wes isn’t going to become Mick Cronin and basically call the game from the sidelines the need for talented high basketball IQ player becomes even more necessary. I would say only Simas and Newman come close to that in your main rotation. Jizzle might get there but the rest of your core roster while talented lacks the experience and basketball savvy needed to lead this team next season.

Bolded, this is far more important than making a couple more baskets each game in determining if next year's team will advance from good to great. DayDay brings some excellent skills and most here believe Jizzle possesses incredible upside. But will either be ready eight short months from now to be the floor general?

If Newman can't score again today and if Vik doesn't log some minutes and get a couple baskets I don't see a win over Bradley today.