1. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor 1,468 B10
2. Ohio State University 583 B10
3. UC Berkeley 242 P12
4. Xavier (OH) University 240 BE
5. University of Iowa 225 B10
6. Geisinger School of Medicine Scranton PA (Biden Country) 194
7. The Pennsylvania State University 138 B10
8. Stanford University 138 P12
9. Texas A & M University, College Station 116 SEC
10. University of Minnesota, Twin Cities 114 B10
11. University of Southern California, University Park Campus 111 P12
12. University of New Mexico 110
13. Vanderbilt University 109 SEC
14. Auburn University 108 SEC
15. Texas State University 98
16. Texas Tech University, Lubbock 96 B12
17. The University of Alabama 95 SEC
18. Drexel University, University City Campus 90
19. University of Houston, Central Campus 88 B12
20. University of Arizona 87 P12
21. University of Florida, Gainesville 87 SEC
22. UC San Diego 85
23. Michigan State University 84 B10
24. Johns Hopkins University 82
25. Prairie View A & M University 80
26. University of Washington, Seattle 80 P12

The Xavier University is only 5 miles from UC's campus but a world away as UC has an active Police/Safety Program and Xavier has a rug.

looks interesting

It would probably be more useful if the numbers were not from the pandemic lock-down period when everybody was "out of work", and if you included the definition of a "violent crime" (i.e., shouting BOO at a woke kid at Berzerkley might be a violent crime there), and lastly if the numbers were aggregated in some other fashion, such as, crimes per 100 students.

I mean like, what the heck is goin on at Geisinger School of Medicine?

(04-25-2024 10:02 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  looks interesting

It would probably be more useful if the numbers were not from the pandemic lock-down period when everybody was "out of work", and if you included the definition of a "violent crime" (i.e., shouting BOO at a woke kid at Berzerkley might be a violent crime there), and lastly if the numbers were aggregated in some other fashion, such as, crimes per 100 students.

I mean like, what the heck is goin on at Geisinger School of Medicine?

It is in Scranton PA home of the legendary Corn Pop.

(04-25-2024 10:02 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  looks interesting

It would probably be more useful if the numbers were not from the pandemic lock-down period when everybody was "out of work", and if you included the definition of a "violent crime" (i.e., shouting BOO at a woke kid at Berzerkley might be a violent crime there), and lastly if the numbers were aggregated in some other fashion, such as, crimes per 100 students.

I mean like, what the heck is goin on at Geisinger School of Medicine?

A violent crime involves the use of force or threat of force against a person. According to the FBI, violent crimes are:

Rape
Murder/manslaughter
Aggravated assault
Robbery
These crimes are defined as follows by Campus Safety and Security:

Rape – The penetration, no matter how slight, of the ****** or anus, with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
Murder/non-negligent manslaughter – The willful (non-negligent) killing of one human being by another.
Negligent manslaughter – The killing of another person through gross negligence.
Robbery – The taking or attempting to take anything of value from the care, custody, or control of a person or persons by force or threat of force or violence and/or by putting the victim in fear.
Aggravated assault – An unlawful attack by one person upon another for the purpose of inflicting severe or aggravated bodily injury. This type of assault usually is accompanied by the use of a weapon or by means likely to produce death or great bodily harm.

(04-25-2024 11:23 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 10:02 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  looks interesting

It would probably be more useful if the numbers were not from the pandemic lock-down period when everybody was "out of work", and if you included the definition of a "violent crime" (i.e., shouting BOO at a woke kid at Berzerkley might be a violent crime there), and lastly if the numbers were aggregated in some other fashion, such as, crimes per 100 students.

I mean like, what the heck is goin on at Geisinger School of Medicine?

A violent crime involves the use of force or threat of force against a person. According to the FBI, violent crimes are:

Rape
Murder/manslaughter
Aggravated assault
Robbery
These crimes are defined as follows by Campus Safety and Security:

Rape – The penetration, no matter how slight, of the ****** or anus, with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
Murder/non-negligent manslaughter – The willful (non-negligent) killing of one human being by another.
Negligent manslaughter – The killing of another person through gross negligence.
Robbery – The taking or attempting to take anything of value from the care, custody, or control of a person or persons by force or threat of force or violence and/or by putting the victim in fear.
Aggravated assault – An unlawful attack by one person upon another for the purpose of inflicting severe or aggravated bodily injury. This type of assault usually is accompanied by the use of a weapon or by means likely to produce death or great bodily harm.

Thanks, I know what violent crime is, but that was not included in your post (e.g., FBI's definition), nor did it indicate where those numbers were derived.

and of course, we all know that not all crime goes reported, especially on college campuses.

per capita would be much more meaningful. and a breakdown by type of violent crime, and whether it was committed by the football or basketball players.

(04-25-2024 11:48 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 11:23 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 10:02 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  looks interesting

It would probably be more useful if the numbers were not from the pandemic lock-down period when everybody was "out of work", and if you included the definition of a "violent crime" (i.e., shouting BOO at a woke kid at Berzerkley might be a violent crime there), and lastly if the numbers were aggregated in some other fashion, such as, crimes per 100 students.

I mean like, what the heck is goin on at Geisinger School of Medicine?

A violent crime involves the use of force or threat of force against a person. According to the FBI, violent crimes are:

Rape
Murder/manslaughter
Aggravated assault
Robbery
These crimes are defined as follows by Campus Safety and Security:

Rape – The penetration, no matter how slight, of the ****** or anus, with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.
Murder/non-negligent manslaughter – The willful (non-negligent) killing of one human being by another.
Negligent manslaughter – The killing of another person through gross negligence.
Robbery – The taking or attempting to take anything of value from the care, custody, or control of a person or persons by force or threat of force or violence and/or by putting the victim in fear.
Aggravated assault – An unlawful attack by one person upon another for the purpose of inflicting severe or aggravated bodily injury. This type of assault usually is accompanied by the use of a weapon or by means likely to produce death or great bodily harm.

Thanks, I know what violent crime is, but that was not included in your post (e.g., FBI's definition), nor did it indicate where those numbers were derived.

and of course, we all know that not all crime goes reported, especially on college campuses.

per capita would be much more meaningful. and a breakdown by type of violent crime, and whether it was committed by the football or basketball players.

Yes per capita would be good. Some would fall and some would rise (like Xavier would rise).

Who committed the crimes is irrelevant as to overall safety.

(04-25-2024 01:25 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Who committed the crimes is irrelevant as to overall safety.

yeah? Tell that to the ladies at Baylor, or the parents of the dead basketball player killed by a teammate.

I think it makes a difference if "crime" is committed by outside agitators or whether it is imported by the Athletic Department

(04-25-2024 05:11 PM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 01:25 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Who committed the crimes is irrelevant as to overall safety.

yeah? Tell that to the ladies at Baylor, or the parents of the dead basketball player killed by a teammate.

I think it makes a difference if "crime" is committed by outside agitators or whether it is imported by the Athletic Department

When it comes to crime, even violent crime, all schools have clay feet, including OSU.

(04-25-2024 05:22 PM)Satchel1906 Wrote:  When it comes to crime, even violent crime, all schools have clay feet, including OSU.

I'm going to call bullcrap on that statement. All of it.

What is it that you think you know about violent crime and colleges, especially OSU?

Criminal acts are for the POLICE to address, not the University. The crime must first be reported to the Police before it can be addressed.

You are familiar with the Clery Act, right?

....campus police and public safety departments must maintain a daily crime log of all reported crimes that fall within their jurisdiction. This crime log must be made available to the public during daily business hours

(04-26-2024 08:31 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 05:22 PM)Satchel1906 Wrote:  When it comes to crime, even violent crime, all schools have clay feet, including OSU.

I'm going to call bullcrap on that statement. All of it.

What is it that you think you know about violent crime and colleges, especially OSU?

Criminal acts are for the POLICE to address, not the University. The crime must first be reported to the Police before it can be addressed.

You are familiar with the Clery Act, right?

....campus police and public safety departments must maintain a daily crime log of all reported crimes that fall within their jurisdiction. This crime log must be made available to the public during daily business hours

The universities I am familiar with have POLICE DEPARTMENTS. UC has 54 officers and 13 security staff. They have a reciprocal agreement with the City Police to deal with areas surrounding the campuses. They carry real guns and have a K9 unit.

(04-26-2024 10:18 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-26-2024 08:31 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 05:22 PM)Satchel1906 Wrote:  When it comes to crime, even violent crime, all schools have clay feet, including OSU.

I'm going to call bullcrap on that statement. All of it.

What is it that you think you know about violent crime and colleges, especially OSU?

Criminal acts are for the POLICE to address, not the University. The crime must first be reported to the Police before it can be addressed.

You are familiar with the Clery Act, right?

....campus police and public safety departments must maintain a daily crime log of all reported crimes that fall within their jurisdiction. This crime log must be made available to the public during daily business hours

The universities I am familiar with have POLICE DEPARTMENTS. UC has 54 officers and 13 security staff. They have a reciprocal agreement with the City Police to deal with areas surrounding the campuses. They carry real guns and have a K9 unit.

Duh.... but YOU ARE NOT the poster that I was responding to...

(certainly you were not siding with the other poster and suggesting that the UC Campus Police Dept is corrupt - lawd, I hope that's not what you're suggesting.)

(04-26-2024 10:42 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(04-26-2024 10:18 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-26-2024 08:31 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 05:22 PM)Satchel1906 Wrote:  When it comes to crime, even violent crime, all schools have clay feet, including OSU.

I'm going to call bullcrap on that statement. All of it.

What is it that you think you know about violent crime and colleges, especially OSU?

Criminal acts are for the POLICE to address, not the University. The crime must first be reported to the Police before it can be addressed.

You are familiar with the Clery Act, right?

....campus police and public safety departments must maintain a daily crime log of all reported crimes that fall within their jurisdiction. This crime log must be made available to the public during daily business hours

The universities I am familiar with have POLICE DEPARTMENTS. UC has 54 officers and 13 security staff. They have a reciprocal agreement with the City Police to deal with areas surrounding the campuses. They carry real guns and have a K9 unit.

Duh.... but YOU ARE NOT the poster that I was responding to...

(certainly you were not siding with the other poster and suggesting that the UC Campus Police Dept is corrupt - lawd, I hope that's not what you're suggesting.)

No, our campus police are not corrupt. And they will shoot to kill if needed. Over 10 years ago they did kill a bad guy and of course he got crucified because of who it was. A jury found him not guilty but the woke leaders fired him and gave his 13 kids by 10 breeders money and erected a memorial.

(04-26-2024 08:31 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(04-25-2024 05:22 PM)Satchel1906 Wrote:  When it comes to crime, even violent crime, all schools have clay feet, including OSU.

I'm going to call bullcrap on that statement. All of it.

What is it that you think you know about violent crime and colleges, especially OSU?

Criminal acts are for the POLICE to address, not the University. The crime must first be reported to the Police before it can be addressed.

You are familiar with the Clery Act, right?

....campus police and public safety departments must maintain a daily crime log of all reported crimes that fall within their jurisdiction. This crime log must be made available to the public during daily business hours

One might reasonably argue the your campus was unsafe when this football player occupied it: https://www.enidnews.com/sports/local_sp...a7fa5.html

(04-26-2024 03:30 PM)Satchel1906 Wrote:  One might reasonably argue the your campus was unsafe when this football player occupied it: https://www.enidnews.com/sports/local_sp...a7fa5.html

LOL you funny. That was a decade ago, and that kid was only on campus for Spring semester as he was an early HS enrollee. That incident you linked happened when he was at home near Tulsa during the summer.

Glad he was sent away, but none of that happened at OSU.

Not that we've never had any bad apples on campus, but you were questioning the OSU disciplinary process and suggesting the school sweeps things under the carpet. Which, of course, is not true.

(04-27-2024 11:26 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(04-26-2024 03:30 PM)Satchel1906 Wrote:  One might reasonably argue the your campus was unsafe when this football player occupied it: https://www.enidnews.com/sports/local_sp...a7fa5.html

LOL you funny. That was a decade ago, and that kid was only on campus for Spring semester as he was an early HS enrollee. That incident you linked happened when he was at home near Tulsa during the summer.

Glad he was sent away, but none of that happened at OSU.

Not that we've never had any bad apples on campus, but you were questioning the OSU disciplinary process and suggesting the school sweeps things under the carpet. Which, of course, is not true.

Dangerous, I tell ya: https://www.newson6.com/story/6620d9498a...us-assault

Perhaps a B12 game will be at UC during this event?

CINCINNATI — A new, but not-so-new event is coming to the riverbanks of Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky in 2025.

America's River Roots — a concept that will feel very familiar to many Tri-Staters — will take place on the Ohio River October 9-12 in 2025, officials announced Wednesday at a press conference.

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, Cincinnati Mayor Aftab Pureval, Kentucky Lt. Gov. Jacqueline Coleman, Hamilton County Commissioner Alicia Reece were among the officials announcing the event, as well as event co-chairs Rick Greiwe, Tim Fogarty and Kelly Kolar.

America's River Roots will be "centered on the Ohio River." The festival is intended to kick off the 250th birthday of the United States, which happens in 2026, since Cincinnati is a host city. Because of this, organizers are expecting the event to bring in hundreds of thousands of attendees, as well as millions of dollars for the region.

The festival will have live music, with Bryce Dessner of rock band The National curating performers. The National, which is made up of Cincinnati natives, is set to perform.

The lineup also features Kathy Wade, an award-winning jazz singer, officials announced Wednesday.

The Purple People Bridge will also be transformed into a food market for the festival.

Similar to the blast-from-the-past festival Tall Stacks Music, Arts, and Heritage Festival, America's River Roots will have 12 steamboats take part in the festival to celebrate Cincinnati, which at one point was the steamboat capital of the world.

Hey Cincinnati, remember Tall Stacks?

The last time the riverboat festival took place was 18 years ago.

Well, get ready for October 2025 and America’s River Roots! Similar concept but this time bigger, better and kicking off a big birthday — America’s 250th.

Captain Alan Bernstein, who owns BB Riverboats, recruited the 12 boats taking part in next year's event. The dozen boats also includes the only three operating commercial steamboats in the country.

"Recently it's never been done, and they'll be racing on Sunday," Bernstein said. "It's the big featured event, the three steamboats, and it's going to be a very neat race."

Bernstein said each of the boats will be themed, incorporating music, food and culture into their river tours.

Overall, the event will have a similar feel to Tall Stacks. Tall Stacks was first held in 1988 to celebrate Cincinnati's bicenntennial, where Greiwe served as executive director of the celebrations. That festival drew national attention and more than 700,000 people crowded into the riverfront during the three-day event, which featured historic riverboats and brought a late-18th-century feel to the riverfront.

Held in October that year, the first Tall Stacks was so successful — with a Xavier University study at the time claiming it created an economic impact of $30 million — it was brought back and subsequent festivals were held in 1992, 1995, 1999, 2003 and 2006.

That is one top 25 I am glad to not see UCF on.

(05-02-2024 08:00 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Perhaps a B12 game will be at UC during this event?

CINCINNATI — A new, but not-so-new event is coming to the riverbanks of Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky in 2025.

America's River Roots — a concept that will feel very familiar to many Tri-Staters — will take place on the Ohio River October 9-12 in 2025, officials announced Wednesday at a press conference.

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine, Cincinnati Mayor Aftab Pureval, Kentucky Lt. Gov. Jacqueline Coleman, Hamilton County Commissioner Alicia Reece were among the officials announcing the event, as well as event co-chairs Rick Greiwe, Tim Fogarty and Kelly Kolar.

America's River Roots will be "centered on the Ohio River." The festival is intended to kick off the 250th birthday of the United States, which happens in 2026, since Cincinnati is a host city. Because of this, organizers are expecting the event to bring in hundreds of thousands of attendees, as well as millions of dollars for the region.

The festival will have live music, with Bryce Dessner of rock band The National curating performers. The National, which is made up of Cincinnati natives, is set to perform.

The lineup also features Kathy Wade, an award-winning jazz singer, officials announced Wednesday.

The Purple People Bridge will also be transformed into a food market for the festival.

Similar to the blast-from-the-past festival Tall Stacks Music, Arts, and Heritage Festival, America's River Roots will have 12 steamboats take part in the festival to celebrate Cincinnati, which at one point was the steamboat capital of the world.

Hey Cincinnati, remember Tall Stacks?

The last time the riverboat festival took place was 18 years ago.

Well, get ready for October 2025 and America’s River Roots! Similar concept but this time bigger, better and kicking off a big birthday — America’s 250th.

Captain Alan Bernstein, who owns BB Riverboats, recruited the 12 boats taking part in next year's event. The dozen boats also includes the only three operating commercial steamboats in the country.

"Recently it's never been done, and they'll be racing on Sunday," Bernstein said. "It's the big featured event, the three steamboats, and it's going to be a very neat race."

Bernstein said each of the boats will be themed, incorporating music, food and culture into their river tours.

Overall, the event will have a similar feel to Tall Stacks. Tall Stacks was first held in 1988 to celebrate Cincinnati's bicenntennial, where Greiwe served as executive director of the celebrations. That festival drew national attention and more than 700,000 people crowded into the riverfront during the three-day event, which featured historic riverboats and brought a late-18th-century feel to the riverfront.

Held in October that year, the first Tall Stacks was so successful — with a Xavier University study at the time claiming it created an economic impact of $30 million — it was brought back and subsequent festivals were held in 1992, 1995, 1999, 2003 and 2006.

yee haa... a hillbilly boat ride on the Otucky River! A good time to be had by all!

Be sure to attend the corn cob eating contest! The winner is the person with the fewest teeth that leaves the most rows of corn on the cob!

yee haa

what does this have to do with the B12?