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Quick Summary of 2008 and 2009 Football Recruits - Tallgrass - 11-09-2008 06:08 PM

OFFENSIVE RECRUITS

Year recruited indicated in parenthesis. Transfer and JUCO status indicated. Accolade is indicated where no other offer has been received. Compiled from various reports and newspaper articles. No information is taken from the Premium Services offered by recruiting services. I would be the last person to state all information is 100% absolute correct.

PLEASE DO NOT POST UNDER THIS THREAD.

Quarterback

1. JACOB BOWER, (2008), JUCO, Dual Threat QB, 6-4, 235, 4.75, Meridian, Idaho and Bakersfield, CA Junior College
(BYU, USC, Oregon St, Kansas State, Texas Tech, SDSU, Hawaii, Others)

2. G.J. KINNE, (2009), Transfer from U of Texas, Dual Threat QB, 6-2, 220, 4.6, Gilmer, TX
(Texas, Baylor, Florida, TAMU, Oklahoma, UCLA, Tennessee, Others)

3. SHAVODRICK BEAVER, (2009), Dual Threat QB, 6-3, 179, Wichita Falls, TX
(Michigan, Texas Tech, Arizona, Nebraska, Clemson, TCU)


Running Back

1. WILLIE CARTER, (2008), H-Back, 6-2, 210, Crockett, TX
(Iowa State, Houston)

2. CHRIS ADKINS, (2008), RB, 5-9, 180, Jenks, OK
(TCU, New Mexico, AFA)

3. ALEX SINGLETON, (2009), RB, 6-0, 230, 4.65, East St. Johns, LA
(LSU and La Tech as FB, Miss State and Okla State as LB)

4. TIMOTHY FLANDERS, (2009), RB, 5-9, 191, 4.4, Midwest City, OK
(New Mexico, Rice, AFA, Toledo)

Wide Receiver

1. SLICK SHELLY, (2008), Transfer, WR, 6-4, 205, Ft. Smith, AK
(Tennessee transfer; Many BCS offers from SEC and Big-12)

2. DAMARIUS JOHNSON, (2008), WR, 5-8, 170, 4.41, Norco, LA
(Minnesota, Memphis, TCU, Northern Illinois, Many SEC offers as Kick/Punt returner)

3. BRETT DAVIS, (2009), WR, 6-0, 200, Shawnee, OK
(Kansas, TCU)

4. KEITH BLANTON, (2009), WR, 6-0, 190, Garland, TX
(Kansas State, Iowa State)

5. TONY PEOPLES, (2009), WR, 6-0, 175, The Colony, TX
(Dallas Morning News Area Top 100 (#89) )

6. FREEMAN KELLY, (2009), WR, 6-0, 175, 4.4, Lancaster, TX
(Arizona, Colorado State, Rice, La Tech)

7. ANTHONY FOSTER, (2009), WR/CB, 5-10, 177, 4.45, Tulsa, OK (Union)
(Colorado, Oregon State, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Kansas State, AFA, Rice, Wyoming, and New Mexico)

8. JORDAN JAMES, (2009), WR, 6-2.5, 190, Lafayette, LA (St. Thomas Moore)
(Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Tulane, ULM, ULL, Hofstra)

Tight End

1. GREG BROWN, (2009), TE/DE, 6-3, 225, Bixby, OK
(Sooner Scoop #12 Oklahoma H.S. Player, ESPN #58 Tight End


Offensive Lineman

1 JARED GRIGG, (2008), OT, 6-6, 240, 5.0, Springdale, AK
(Auburn)

2. CLINTON ANDERSON, (2008), OC, 6-2, 265, 5.08, Allen, TX
(Washington State, Buffalo)

3. GABE MOYER, (2008), OL, 6-2, 305, OKC, OK (Bishop McGuinness)
(Vanderbilt, Colorado State)

4. TAVITO HALAHOLO, (2008), JUCO, OL, 6-5, 320, San Mateo Junior College
(All-Conference JUCO)

5. BRIAN DeSHANE, (2009), OG, 6-3, 280, 5.25, Tulsa, OK (Union)
(Arkansas, TAMU, Kansas)

6. TRENT DUPY, (2009), OC, 6-3, 280, Enid, OK
(Iowa State as DT)

7. STETSON BURNETT, (2009), OG, 6-4, 271, Lawton, OK (MacArthur)
(Army, Rivals 3-Star)

8. ERIC SPROAL, (2009), OC/OL, 6-4, 305, Yorba Linda (El Dorado H.S.) and Santa Anna Junior College
(Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State, Fresno State, Nevada, and San Diego State out of high school)

9. KODY COOKE, (2009), OT, 6-4, 285, Enid, Oklahoma, Transfer from U of Oklahoma
(Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Tulsa, Wyoming)


DEFENSIVE RECRUITS

Defensive Tackle

1. DERRICK JACKSON, (2008), DT, 6-2, 285, Del City, OK
(#2 Oklahoma High School Heavyweight Wrestler; Oklahoma All-State)

2. GABE McGEE, (2009), DT, 6-0, 310, Duncan, OK
(Kansas State, Baylor, Colorado State)

3. JACK JEWELL, (2009), DT/DE/OT, 6-7, 250, Norman, OK
(Scount Midlands #8 Defensive End)

Defensive End

1. CORY DORRIS, (2008), DE, 6-4, 255, 4.9, Jenks, OK
(Iowa State, Tulane, Rice, TCU, Army)

2. MAURICE WHITE, (2008), DE, 6-6, 220, Del City, OK
(Kansas, Colorado State)

3. UN'TAVIOUS SCOTT, (2008), JUCO, DE, 6-3, 235, Reedley, CA Junior College and Panokee High School, Florida
(Troy as high school senior; Weighed 195 coming out of high school.)

4. DAESHON BUFORD, (2009), 6-4, 222, DE/DT, Edmond, OK
(Southern Miss)

Linebacker

1. ADE' MANGO, (2008), JUCO, OLB, 6-2, 220, Coffeyville CC, KS
(All JayHawk Conference, Honorable Mention)

2. KARPO SARKISSIAN, (2008), JUCO, LB, MLB, 6-1, 235, El Camino Junior College & Kamahameha, Hawaii
(Weighed 190 coming out of Hawaii High School. All-Conference Mission Conference, American Division)

3. BRIAN MOORE, (2008), LB/S, 6-1, 190, 4.5, Klein, TX
(Nebraska, Northwestern)

4. ZACH WALLACE, (2008), LB, 6-2, 225, Muscogee, OK (Hilldale)
(Ohio, Co-Defensive Player of the Game, Okla/TX All-Star Game won by Oklahoma. Starter as true freshman before injury.)

5. CODY WILSON, (2009), OLB, 6-0, 220, 4.59, Tulsa, OK (Lincoln Christian)
(Army, Rivals #27 Oklahoma H.S. Player)

6. DEXTER McCOIL, (2009), OLB/S, 6-5, 175, 4.6, Luther, LA
(Auburn, Tulane, ULL, ULM, La Tech)

Defensive Back

1. BOBBY SMITH, (2008), CB, 5-10, 170, Putnam City, OK
(Rivals #23 Oklahoma H.S. Player)

2. TRENT WILKINS, (2008), S, 6-0, 188, 4.45, Duncan, OK
(Offensive Player of the Game, Okla/TX All-Star Game won by Oklahoma)

3. CORY LAMBERT, (2008), CB, 179, Warren, AK
(Miss State, Missouri, La Tech)

4. ALAN DOCK, (2008), S/LB, 5-11, 210, Giddings, TX
(AP TEXAS 3-A Defensive Player of the Year. One of three true freshmen to play for Tulsa. in 2008 season)

5. JOHN FLANDERS, (2008), CB, 5-10, 175, 4.4, Midwest City, OK
(Kansas State, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, UTEP)

6. DeAUNDRE BROWN, (2008), S, 5-11, 181, 4.47, Seguin, TX
(Louisville and New Mexico State as WR. Outstanding pass rusher. One of 3 true freshmen to play for Tulsa in 2008 season.)

7. BRIAN BURNHAM, (2008), DB, 6-2, 183, Mooreston, NJ
(Villanova, Maine, Rhode Island)

8. KOLLIN HANCOCK, (2008), JUCO, S, 6-0, 180, College of the Redlands & Columbus, Ohio
(First Team, All-Conference)

9. LaQUENTIN BLACK, (2009), JUCO, CB, 5-9, 175, Davis, OK and Northern Iowa Junior College
(Kansas State, Minnesota, Northern Illinois, Northern Iowa)

10. JASON SKILLENS, (2009), CB, 5-8, 172, 4.57, Tulsa, OK (Washington)
(Okla State, Oregon State, Arkansas, Iowa State, and Texas Tech)

11. DARIUS DICKERSON, (2009), CB/S, 6-3, 180, Galveston, TX
(Started as freshman. All-District as sophmore and junior. Offered immediately after outstanding Tulsa camp.)

12. ANTONIO PARKER, (2009), CB, 5-11, 175, Daestrehan, LA
(Miss State, Tulane, SMU, Boise State, La Tech)

SPECIALIST

1. KEVIN FITZGERALD, (2008), Kicker, 6-1, 180, Jensen Beach, FL
(Arkansas State, Eastern Michigan, Northern Illinois, Toledo)

2. MICHAEL BRODSKY, (2009), Deep Snapper,6-1, 210, Aplharetta, GA
(Preferred Walk-On Status by South Carolina and Georgia Tech)

PLEASE DO NOT POST UNDER THIS THREAD.

RE: Quick Summary of 2008 and 2009 Football Recruits - rabidTU - 11-09-2008 09:58 PM

Tallgrass Wrote:OFFENSIVE RECRUITS

Year recruited indicated in parenthesis. Transfer and JUCO status indicated. Accolade is indicated where no other offer has been received. Compiled from various reports and newspaper articles. No information is taken from the Premium Services offered by recruiting services. I would be the last person to state all information is 100% absolute correct.

PLEASE DO NOT POST UNDER THIS THREAD.

Quarterback

1. JACOB BOWER, (2008), JUCO, 6-4, 235, 4.75, Meridian, Idaho and Bakersfield, CA Junior College
(BYU, USC, Oregon St, Kansas State, Texas Tech, SDSU, Hawaii, Others)

2. G.J. KINNE, (2009), Transfer, Dual Threat QB, 6-2, 220, 4.6, Gilmer, TX
(Texas, Baylor, Florida, TAMU, Oklahoma, UCLA, Tennessee, Others)

3. PHILLIP BUTTERFIELD, (2009), Pro-Style QB, 6-2, 190, 4.72, Hot Springs, AK
(Arkansas as Safety & Kicker, Ole Miss, Miss State, La Tech)

4. CLINT CHELF, (2009), Dual Threat QB, 6-3, 195, 4.48, Enid, OK
(Tulsa Top Gun #2 Finalist)

Running Back

1. WILLIE CARTER, (2008), H-Back, 6-2, 210, Crockett, TX
(Iowa State, Houston)

2. CHRIS ADKINS, (2008), RB, 5-9, 180, Jenks, OK
(TCU, New Mexico, AFA)

2. ALEX SINGLETON, (2009), RB, 6-0, 230, 4.65, East St. Johns, LA
(LSU and La Tech as FB, Miss State and Okla State as LB)

Wide Receiver

1. SLICK SHELLY, (2008), Transfer, WR, 6-4, 205, Ft. Smith, AK
(Tennessee transfer; Many BCS offers from SEC and Big-12)

2. DEE WILLIAMS, (2008), JUCO, WR, 6-2, 200, 4.41, Ashdown, AK
(Arkansas, Nebraska, Iowa State, Houston, Arkansas State)

3. DAMARIUS JOHNSON, (2008), WR, 5-8, 170, 4.41, Norco, LA
(Minnesota, Memphis, TCU, Northern Illinois, Many SEC offers as Kick/Punt returner)

4. BRETT DAVIS, (2009), WR, 6-0, 200, Shawnee, OK
(Oklahoma 5A State 300 High Hurdles Champion; 110 High Hurdles Runner-Up, and 100 Yard Dash #5 Finalist)

5. KEITH BLANTON, (2009), WR, 6-0, 190, Garland, TX
(Kansas State, Iowa State)

6. TONY PEOPLES, (2009), WR, 6-0, 175, The Colony, TX
(Listed as RB by recruiting services, Tulsa recruited Peoples as WR. Has 36 inch leap.)

7. FREEMAN KELLY, (2009), WR, 6-0, 175, 4.4, Lancaster, TX
(Arizona, Colorado State, Rice, La Tech)

8. DESTIN STEWART, (2009), WR, 6-3, 195, OKC, OK (Douglas)
(Rivals Pre-Season Top 35 (#31), Douglas is primarily a running team.)

Tight End

1. GREG BROWN, (2009), TE/DE, 6-3, 225, Bixby, OK
(Sooner Scoop #12 Oklahoma H.S. Player, ESPN #58 Tight End


Offensive Lineman

1 JARED GRIGG, (2009), OT, 6-6, 240, 5.0, Springdale, AK
(AP Arkansas Super Team)

2. CLINTON ANDERSON, (2008), OC, 6-2, 265, 5.08, Allen, TX
(Washington State, Buffalo)

3. GABE MOYER, (2008), OL, 6-2, 305, OKC, OK (Bishop McGuinness)
(Vanderbilt, Colorado State)

4. TAVITO HALAHOLO, (2008), JUCO, OL, 6-5, 320, San Mateo Junior College
(All-Conference JUCO)

5. BRIAN DeSHANE, (2009), OG, 6-3, 280, 5.25, Tulsa, OK (Union)
(Arkansas, TAMU, Kansas)

6. TRENT DUPY, (2009), OC, 6-3, 280, Enid, OK
(Iowa State as DT)

7. STETSON BURNETT, (2009), OG, 6-4, 271, Lawton, OK (MacArthur)
(Army, Rivals 3-Star)


DEFENSIVE RECRUITS

Defensive Tackle

1. DERRICK JACKSON, (2008), DT, 6-2, 285, Del City, OK
(#2 Oklahoma High School Heavyweight Wrestler; Oklahoma All-State)

2. GABE McGEE, (2009), DT, 6-0, 310, Duncan, OK
(Kansas State, Baylor, Colorado State)

3. JACK JEWELL, (2009), DT/DE/OT, 6-7, 250, Norman, OK
(Scount Midlands #8 Defensive End)

Defensive End

1. CORY DORRIS, (2008), DE, 6-4, 255, 4.9, Jenks, OK
(Iowa State, Tulane, Rice, TCU, Army)

2. MAURICE WHITE, (2008), DE, 6-6, 220, Del City, OK
(Colorado State)

3. UN'TAVIOUS SCOTT, (2008), JUCO, DE, 6-3, 235, Reedley, CA Junior College and Panokee High School, Florida
(Troy as high school senior; Weighed 195 coming out of high school.)

4. DAESHON BUFORD, (2009), 6-4, 222, DE/DT, Edmond, OK
(Southern Miss)

Linebacker

1. ADE' MANGO, (2008), JUCO, OLB, 6-2, 220, Coffeyville CC, KS
(All JayHawk Conference, Honorable Mention)

2. KARPO SARKISSIAN, (2008), JUCO, LB, MLB, 6-1, 235, El Camino Junior College & Kamahameha, Hawaii
(Weighed 190 coming out of Hawaii High School. All-Conference Mission Conference, American Division)

3. BRIAN MOORE, (2008), LB/S, 6-1, 190, 4.5, Klein, TX
(Nebraska, Northwestern)

4. ZACH WALLACE, (2008), LB, 6-2, 225, Muscogee, OK (Hilldale)
(Ohio, Oklahoma Co-Defensive Player of the Game, Okla/TX All-Star Game won by Oklahoma)

5. CODY WILSON, (2009), OLB, 6-0, 220, 4.59, Tulsa, OK (Lincoln Christian)
(Rivals #27 Oklahoma H.S. Player)

Defensive Back

1. BOBBY SMITH, (2008), CB, 5-10, 170, Putnam City, OK
(Rivals #23 Oklahoma H.S. Player)

2. TRENT WILKINS, (2008), S, 6-0, 188, 4.45, Duncan, OK
(Offensive Player of the Game, Okla/TX All-Star Game won by Oklahoma)

3. CORY LAMBERT, (2008), CB, 179, Warren, AK
(Miss State, Missouri, La Tech)

4. ALAN DOCK, (2008), S/LB, 5-11, 210, Giddings, TX
(AP TEXAS 3-A Defensive Player of the Year)

5. JOHN FLANDERS, (2008), CB, 5-10, 175, 4.4, Midwest City, OK
(Kansas State, Texas Tech, Rice, SMU, UTEP)

6. DeAUNDRE BROWN, (2008), S, 5-11, 181, 4.47, Seguin, TX
(Louisville and New Mexico State as WR)

7. BRIAN BURNHAM, (2008), DB, 6-2, 183, Mooreston, NJ
(Villanova, Maine, Rhode Island)

8. KOLLIN HANCOCK, (2008), JUCO, S, 6-0, 180, College of the Redlands & Columbus, Ohio
(First Team, All-Conference)

9. LaQUENTIN BLACK, (2009), JUCO, CB, 5-9, 175, Davis, OK and Northern Iowa Junior College
(Kansas State, Minnesota, Northern Illinois, Northern Iowa)

10. KEVION GAMBLE, (2009), CB, 5-9, 165, Lincoln, TX
(SMU, UTEP, UNLV, UNT, Arkansas State, Louisiana Tech, NM State)

11. JASON SKILLENS, (2009), CB, 5-8, 172, 4.57, Tulsa, OK (Washington)
(Okla State, Oregon State, Arkansas, Iowa State, and Texas Tech)

12. DARIUS DICKERSON, (2009), CB/S, 6-3, 180, Galveston, TX
(Started as freshman. All-District as sophmore and junior.)

SPECIALIST

1. KEVIN FITZGERALD, (2008), Kicker, 6-1, 180, Jensen Beach, FL
(Arkansas State, Eastern Michigan, Northern Illinois, Toledo)

2. MICHAEL BRODSKY, (2009), Deep Snapper,6-1, 210, Aplharetta, GA
(Preferred Walk-On Status by South Carolina and Georgia Tech)

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Thanks for the heads up Tallgrass. Also Jared Grigg got a late offer last year from Auburn and Brett Davis and Maurice White (who is presently greyshirting) received offers from the Kansas Jayhawks.

RE: Quick Summary of 2008 and 2009 Football Recruits - Tallgrass - 11-09-2008 10:21 PM

Thanks! I will correct the summary. I have seen these references on the Rivals Board general discussion a couple times. I assume it is coming from the Premium subscription board....I don't have a premium subscription nor do I like to cite them since you are suppose to pay for that info. Although the info I have in my recruiting listings I know is not 100% accurate, my gut feeling is that it is understated because of the lack of Premium information...where all the known offers are listed.

RE: Quick Summary of 2008 and 2009 Football Recruits - TUknowitall - 02-05-2009 12:07 PM

(11-09-2008 10:21 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Thanks! I will correct the summary. I have seen these references on the Rivals Board general discussion a couple times. I assume it is coming from the Premium subscription board....I don't have a premium subscription nor do I like to cite them since you are suppose to pay for that info. Although the info I have in my recruiting listings I know is not 100% accurate, my gut feeling is that it is understated because of the lack of Premium information...where all the known offers are listed.
I subscribe to the Tulsa Rivals site, and I can confirm that your info is not 100% accurate. I can also confirm that some somes from the premium content over there. So this is a mixture of stuff ripped off from premium service and stuff that is not even accurate.

Just curious, but why not just subscribe to the Tulsa Rivals site and get all the accurate info -- plus a TON MORE INFO than this? This seems like a waste of effort.

RE: Quick Summary of 2008 and 2009 Football Recruits - Jesterondirt - 02-06-2009 01:05 AM

(02-05-2009 12:07 PM)TUknowitall Wrote:  
(11-09-2008 10:21 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Thanks! I will correct the summary. I have seen these references on the Rivals Board general discussion a couple times. I assume it is coming from the Premium subscription board....I don't have a premium subscription nor do I like to cite them since you are suppose to pay for that info. Although the info I have in my recruiting listings I know is not 100% accurate, my gut feeling is that it is understated because of the lack of Premium information...where all the known offers are listed.
I subscribe to the Tulsa Rivals site, and I can confirm that your info is not 100% accurate. I can also confirm that some somes from the premium content over there. So this is a mixture of stuff ripped off from premium service and stuff that is not even accurate.

Just curious, but why not just subscribe to the Tulsa Rivals site and get all the accurate info -- plus a TON MORE INFO than this? This seems like a waste of effort.

Long story.......

RE: Quick Summary of 2008 and 2009 Football Recruits - Tallgrass - 02-20-2009 10:20 AM

(02-05-2009 12:07 PM)TUknowitall Wrote:  
(11-09-2008 10:21 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Thanks! I will correct the summary. I have seen these references on the Rivals Board general discussion a couple times. I assume it is coming from the Premium subscription board....I don't have a premium subscription nor do I like to cite them since you are suppose to pay for that info. Although the info I have in my recruiting listings I know is not 100% accurate, my gut feeling is that it is understated because of the lack of Premium information...where all the known offers are listed.
I subscribe to the Tulsa Rivals site, and I can confirm that your info is not 100% accurate. I can also confirm that some somes from the premium content over there. So this is a mixture of stuff ripped off from premium service and stuff that is not even accurate.

Just curious, but why not just subscribe to the Tulsa Rivals site and get all the accurate info -- plus a TON MORE INFO than this? This seems like a waste of effort.

FWIW, there are different results reported by Rivals concerning recruits. Many Rival school sites will not acknowledge a player was recruited by Tulsa; in a couple instances, TU Rivals has not acknowledge making an offer to a high school player that subsequently signed with another school. My data is not perfect and I acknowledge that. But Rivals is not perfect either. And, to complicate matters, Rivals and Scout often contradict each other.

The recruiting info published by newspapers has increased substantially. Sites like Tulsa World Sports Xtra, NW Arkansas News online, Dallas Morning News, Daily Oklahoman, provide a ton of info.

Recruiting sites like ESPNInsider, Texashighschool.com, Texasfootball.com, and many other recruiting sites also provide a ton of info.

It is not a waste of effort. I do this for my own enjoyment, with football recruiting my favorite sport after football. Basketball is a distant second. It goes back many, many years when I subscribed to Max Emfinger's newsletter and the many recruiting sites of today did not exist at that time. He did not list stars or any kind of ratings.....just what schools had offered. I like that then and I like that now.

I have not "ripped off" Rivals. All info in my data is published public info. Just check the links.

Regarding subscribing to Rivals, two points. First, I will use that subscription money for All Access telecasting of Tulsa football games and basketball games instead. Second, I find the recruiting reports from so many sources very revealing and informative. For example, there are about a dozen Arkansas recruiting sites. All you have to do is a simple google on any player and you will get a ton of info.

I used to work as an economist with the federal government. We knew our "absolute" measures of economic data were not accurate. Our primary concern was that we captured trends 100% accurately, and if we were a bit above or below the truth....that didn't matter if we got the trends correct. To repeat, the accuracy of capturing trends was important....recognizing that capturing statistically coorect absolute measures was an impossibility. The trend is clear. Tulsa football recruiting is heads and shoulders this past two years of anything I have seen going back to the mid 1960s.

RE: Quick Summary of 2008 and 2009 Football Recruits - CUSAreporter - 02-01-2011 12:59 AM

(02-20-2009 10:20 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(02-05-2009 12:07 PM)TUknowitall Wrote:  
(11-09-2008 10:21 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Thanks! I will correct the summary. I have seen these references on the Rivals Board general discussion a couple times. I assume it is coming from the Premium subscription board....I don't have a premium subscription nor do I like to cite them since you are suppose to pay for that info. Although the info I have in my recruiting listings I know is not 100% accurate, my gut feeling is that it is understated because of the lack of Premium information...where all the known offers are listed.
I subscribe to the Tulsa Rivals site, and I can confirm that your info is not 100% accurate. I can also confirm that some somes from the premium content over there. So this is a mixture of stuff ripped off from premium service and stuff that is not even accurate.

Just curious, but why not just subscribe to the Tulsa Rivals site and get all the accurate info -- plus a TON MORE INFO than this? This seems like a waste of effort.

FWIW, there are different results reported by Rivals concerning recruits. Many Rival school sites will not acknowledge a player was recruited by Tulsa; in a couple instances, TU Rivals has not acknowledge making an offer to a high school player that subsequently signed with another school. My data is not perfect and I acknowledge that. But Rivals is not perfect either. And, to complicate matters, Rivals and Scout often contradict each other.

The recruiting info published by newspapers has increased substantially. Sites like Tulsa World Sports Xtra, NW Arkansas News online, Dallas Morning News, Daily Oklahoman, provide a ton of info.

Recruiting sites like ESPNInsider, Texashighschool.com, Texasfootball.com, and many other recruiting sites also provide a ton of info.

It is not a waste of effort. I do this for my own enjoyment, with football recruiting my favorite sport after football. Basketball is a distant second. It goes back many, many years when I subscribed to Max Emfinger's newsletter and the many recruiting sites of today did not exist at that time. He did not list stars or any kind of ratings.....just what schools had offered. I like that then and I like that now.

I have not "ripped off" Rivals. All info in my data is published public info. Just check the links.

Regarding subscribing to Rivals, two points. First, I will use that subscription money for All Access telecasting of Tulsa football games and basketball games instead. Second, I find the recruiting reports from so many sources very revealing and informative. For example, there are about a dozen Arkansas recruiting sites. All you have to do is a simple google on any player and you will get a ton of info.

I used to work as an economist with the federal government. We knew our "absolute" measures of economic data were not accurate. Our primary concern was that we captured trends 100% accurately, and if we were a bit above or below the truth....that didn't matter if we got the trends correct. To repeat, the accuracy of capturing trends was important....recognizing that capturing statistically coorect absolute measures was an impossibility. The trend is clear. Tulsa football recruiting is heads and shoulders this past two years of anything I have seen going back to the mid 1960s.

Rivals and Scout may contradict each other, but that's because Scout has no clue...I don't believe they even have a publisher for their Tulsa site. The Tulsa Rivals site seems to be 99.9% accurate on recruiting. I pay attention to all the C-USA Rivals sites...and the Tulsa one is by far the best. If you love recruiting, as you claim, I'd be paying attention to the Tulsa Rivals site.