(11-23-2014 04:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So what you are saying is Miami is underachieving?

(11-23-2014 04:13 PM)green Wrote:  

In early 2012, I had a conversation with a former Miami staffer who landed at Alabama. I congratulated him on Alabama's championship and told him that it must be nice to coach so many studs. He looked at me and said, "Miami's good players are better than Alabama's good players."

I couldn't believe it. Alabama was the national champion. Miami was 6-6 and coming off an embarrassing home loss to BC. Alabama had multiple projected first round picks. Miami had a few mid and late-round guys. But he was insistent.

"Lamar Miller is better than Trent Richardson. Olivier Vernon is better than Courtney Upshaw. And Seantrel Henderson is better than any lineman we've got. Watch them in the pros."

Now that we've seen those guys in the NFL, we know he was dead-on. Why were the programs so far apart on the field? The coach said it came down to football infrastructure (training table, strength and conditioning, medical staff) and depth. He left out coaching, for obvious reasons, but you can assume that's another factor. Once those guys get to the NFL, he said, all the external things will become equal and raw talent will prevail.

But why is a team with so many elite players struggling in a talentless Coastal division?

Right now, our best players are better than anybody's best players. Anybody. Watch Perryman, Dorsett, Flowers, Duke and Walford in the pros. No other Power Five school can match those upperclassmen. Four years later, Miami is still undefeated on Sunday and .500 on Saturday.
-- DMoney

NOW MUSCLE SHOALS HAS GOT THE SWAMPERS

(11-24-2014 01:09 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Basketball is more important now.

(11-24-2014 01:09 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Basketball is more important now.

(11-24-2014 03:29 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  I don't know man....

Alabama has future NFLers all over the place. Amari Cooper will slip right into the NFL....he'll be a top fantasy football pick next year.

They've got secondary studs, big O-Line Men, and excellent RBs

(11-23-2014 10:38 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  The infrastructure remark is HUGE. Most acc schools don't have it, don't think it's necessary and/or simply don't care.

(11-23-2014 04:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So what you are saying is Miami is underachieving?

(11-26-2014 02:16 PM)green Wrote:  

(11-23-2014 04:31 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So what you are saying is Miami is underachieving?

http://miami.scout.com/story/1484528-is-um-most-underachieving-team-in-america?s=13&?ref=12125&utm_source=SocialMedia&utm_medium=HootSuitePost&utm_campaign=HootSuite&hootPostID=61debb72eaf92ed957670029864ac793

According to the latest NFL Draft rankings on CBS Sports, Miami is clearly one of the most talented teams in all of college football.

The Hurricanes have 10 players who have a draft grade on their rankings list

The amazing part about that is that only one school -- the defending national champions and owners of a 27-game winning streak -- has more. Florida State has 12 on their list.

Here is the rest of the AP Top 10 and how many players are on that list:

2. Alabama -- 7
3. Oregon -- 7
4. Mississippi State -- 4
5. Baylor -- 6
6. TCU -- 4
7. Ohio State -- 3
8. Georgia -- 3
9. UCLA -- 3
10. Michigan State -- 5
-- ScoutCollegeFootball

IT'S THE TALENT THAT BRINGS IN THE MONEY

(04-28-2015 04:15 PM)green Wrote:  Sports Illustrated thinks Miami will have 3 1st rounders and FSU/Alabama 2 apiece
-- Bud Elliott ‏@TomahawkNation

(04-28-2015 04:15 PM)green Wrote:  



http://mmqb.si.com/2015/04/28/peter-king-2015-nfl-mock-draft/

Sports Illustrated thinks Miami will have 3 1st rounders and FSU/Alabama 2 apiece
-- Bud Elliott ‏@TomahawkNation

PEACE OUT

(04-28-2015 04:17 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  

(04-28-2015 04:15 PM)green Wrote:  Sports Illustrated thinks Miami will have 3 1st rounders and FSU/Alabama 2 apiece
-- Bud Elliott ‏@TomahawkNation

Good for Miami but....

Is coaching the problem then?

(04-28-2015 05:40 PM)Lou_C Wrote:  This is what makes me laugh when people think Miami is down forever. The right coach will be able to win there again. Maybe not multiple national championships, but they can be quite good again. Facilities matter, and so they will be a step behind some of the teams at the very forefront of facilities, but they will still have the talent to be a very good team.