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two 9 team divisions - Nebraskafan - 07-09-2016 10:34 PM
B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Purdue
MN
IL
WI
NW
Iowa
B1G East
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
This will lead to a real conference title game.
RE: two 9 team divisions - RutgersGuy - 07-10-2016 11:13 AM
(07-09-2016 10:34 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote: B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Purdue
MN
IL
WI
NW
Iowa
B1G East
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
This will lead to a real conference title game.
FSU and GT? Why not UVA and UNC? Also just add two more and go to four divisions of 5 teams.
Division 1-Rutgers, PSU, UVA, UNC, Maryland
Division 2- OSU, MSU, UM, Indiana, Purdue
Division 3-Wisconsin, NW, Illinois, Minnesota, Notre Dame
Division 4-Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
RE: two 9 team divisions - BePcr07 - 07-10-2016 02:48 PM
(07-10-2016 11:13 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:(07-09-2016 10:34 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote: B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Purdue
MN
IL
WI
NW
Iowa
B1G East
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
This will lead to a real conference title game.
FSU and GT? Why not UVA and UNC? Also just add two more and go to four divisions of 5 teams.
Division 1-Rutgers, PSU, UVA, UNC, Maryland
Division 2- OSU, MSU, UM, Indiana, Purdue
Division 3-Wisconsin, NW, Illinois, Minnesota, Notre Dame
Division 4-Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
Why he added Florida St and Georgia Tech is a good question. My guess is that the SEC seems set on not adding schools in states they already have a presence. This would leave both available - good academics, solid athletics, new markets, and great recruiting opportunities.
North Carolina and Virginia are also great choices, but I think I've heard that they believe they would prefer the SEC over the B1G. Also, North Carolina leaving Duke seems like a non-starter.
Anyways, going to 20 from 18 would be smooth, especially in a 5-team pod system. Going off this setup, I would add Kansas and Clemson for the B1G (presuming Missouri was off the table) - personal preference.
Southwest: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa
Atlantic: Florida St, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Maryland, Rutgers
Midwest: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Indiana
North: Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota
RE: two 9 team divisions - RutgersGuy - 07-10-2016 05:07 PM
(07-10-2016 02:48 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:(07-10-2016 11:13 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:(07-09-2016 10:34 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote: B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Purdue
MN
IL
WI
NW
Iowa
B1G East
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
This will lead to a real conference title game.
FSU and GT? Why not UVA and UNC? Also just add two more and go to four divisions of 5 teams.
Division 1-Rutgers, PSU, UVA, UNC, Maryland
Division 2- OSU, MSU, UM, Indiana, Purdue
Division 3-Wisconsin, NW, Illinois, Minnesota, Notre Dame
Division 4-Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
Why he added Florida St and Georgia Tech is a good question. My guess is that the SEC seems set on not adding schools in states they already have a presence. This would leave both available - good academics, solid athletics, new markets, and great recruiting opportunities.
North Carolina and Virginia are also great choices, but I think I've heard that they believe they would prefer the SEC over the B1G. Also, North Carolina leaving Duke seems like a non-starter.
Anyways, going to 20 from 18 would be smooth, especially in a 5-team pod system. Going off this setup, I would add Kansas and Clemson for the B1G (presuming Missouri was off the table) - personal preference.
Southwest: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa
Atlantic: Florida St, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Maryland, Rutgers
Midwest: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Indiana
North: Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota
Neither UVA nor UNC has said they had a preference between the B1G or SEC. Soooo I wont put any stock in that. Also UNC is like Texas. It loves it's rivalries but it will do whats best for UNC. Clemson wont be an option for the B1G and I don't see a south eastern island being a real idea. The states of NC and VA bring in more households and money than GA and SC. I also don't see them breaking up the trio of PSU, RU and Mary. PSU wanted schools that were closer since they entered the league. I doubt they would be okay with being split up from them then shoved in a division with OSU, MSU and UM.
RE: two 9 team divisions - BePcr07 - 07-10-2016 05:39 PM
(07-10-2016 05:07 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:(07-10-2016 02:48 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:(07-10-2016 11:13 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:(07-09-2016 10:34 PM)Nebraskafan Wrote: B1G West
Oklahoma
Texas
Nebraska
Purdue
MN
IL
WI
NW
Iowa
B1G East
Florida State
Georgia Tech
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn State
This will lead to a real conference title game.
FSU and GT? Why not UVA and UNC? Also just add two more and go to four divisions of 5 teams.
Division 1-Rutgers, PSU, UVA, UNC, Maryland
Division 2- OSU, MSU, UM, Indiana, Purdue
Division 3-Wisconsin, NW, Illinois, Minnesota, Notre Dame
Division 4-Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa
Why he added Florida St and Georgia Tech is a good question. My guess is that the SEC seems set on not adding schools in states they already have a presence. This would leave both available - good academics, solid athletics, new markets, and great recruiting opportunities.
North Carolina and Virginia are also great choices, but I think I've heard that they believe they would prefer the SEC over the B1G. Also, North Carolina leaving Duke seems like a non-starter.
Anyways, going to 20 from 18 would be smooth, especially in a 5-team pod system. Going off this setup, I would add Kansas and Clemson for the B1G (presuming Missouri was off the table) - personal preference.
Southwest: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa
Atlantic: Florida St, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Maryland, Rutgers
Midwest: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Indiana
North: Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota
Neither UVA nor UNC has said they had a preference between the B1G or SEC. Soooo I wont put any stock in that. Also UNC is like Texas. It loves it's rivalries but it will do whats best for UNC. Clemson wont be an option for the B1G and I don't see a south eastern island being a real idea. The states of NC and VA bring in more households and money than GA and SC. I also don't see them breaking up the trio of PSU, RU and Mary. PSU wanted schools that were closer since they entered the league. I doubt they would be okay with being split up from them then shoved in a division with OSU, MSU and UM.
I agree that Southeastern teams aren't "a real idea," I was just trying to figure out the logic of that previous post and expand on that idea should it happen. As far as Clemson, that was quite a stretch - I know - but adding Clemson, Florida St, and Georgia Tech (to a lesser) extend adds quite a punch football-wise that many B1G schools don't have.
RE: two 9 team divisions - Nebraskafan - 07-10-2016 05:46 PM
There is some chatter that these are the 4 teams that Delany wants as his first option.
They can't do a pod method right now. That got shut down when the ACC proposed it. Until pods are adopted nationally it will be divisions. If the B1G goes 18, the conference can allow schools to schedule cross over games as non conference games if schools in separate divisions want to play. They already talked about doing this a few years ago but got shut down since they wanted to do it with 10 conference games.
We will see which schools that Delany will be able to close.
RE: two 9 team divisions - megadrone - 07-11-2016 09:07 AM
If there are 18 teams, it really feels like two conferences, at least in football. In other sports it could work.
The Metro talked about 16, the WAC tried it without success. Maybe it could work here because there wouldn't be much of a reason to split in two and no team would get poached away, but I hope not.
RE: two 9 team divisions - NJ2MDTerp - 07-11-2016 01:51 PM
I don't particularly care for FSU or Georgia Tech. And I don't think either school would accept outlier status.
two 9 team divisions - utpotts - 07-12-2016 01:07 AM
Clemson/ FSU football > rest of the ACC.
RE: two 9 team divisions - brista21 - 07-12-2016 10:26 AM
If you're gonna go 20 deep:
West: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri
North: Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern
Central: Purdue, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
East: Penn State, Maryland, Virginia Tech, Rutgers, UConn
Two things, you'd have to stay at at least 9 conference game and you'd have to use NFL style scheduling. Play 4 games against your division. Play 5 against another division on a rotating basis.
RE: two 9 team divisions - NJ2MDTerp - 07-15-2016 05:59 PM
(07-12-2016 10:26 AM)brista21 Wrote: If you're gonna go 20 deep:Let's assume the ACC gets a network in exchange for extending both the ESPN contract and the GOR. That would mean Va Tech stays in the ACC. Would you (or anyone else) fill that slot with an eastern school or look west for further expansion? What other schools in the east and the west are BIG ready?
West: Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri
North: Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern
Central: Purdue, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
East: Penn State, Maryland, Virginia Tech, Rutgers, UConn
Two things, you'd have to stay at at least 9 conference game and you'd have to use NFL style scheduling. Play 4 games against your division. Play 5 against another division on a rotating basis.