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Big South approves Liberty's waiver - Liberty Fan - 09-22-2017 05:08 PM
Quote:The Big South Conference’s Council of Chief Executive Officers approved Liberty’s waiver to remain in the conference as an associate member Friday afternoon. The Flames will withdraw from the conference as a full member effective June 30, 2019, and then be labeled as an associate member beginning in the 2019-20 season.
“Liberty University is a long-standing member of the Big South that has contributed to the success of the conference in many ways,” Mary Grant, Big South president and UNC Asheville chancellor, said in a written release. “We believe we reached a good outcome that provides continued opportunities for Liberty’s student-athletes while adhering to the by-laws that govern our conference.”
http://www.newsadvance.com/sports/liberty_university/big-south-approves-liberty-s-waiver-to-remain-in-conference/article_54acc6dc-9fd7-11e7-b249-93b33cfef125.html
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - Curtisc83 - 09-22-2017 05:11 PM
Why not a full member?
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - Liberty Fan - 09-22-2017 05:27 PM
(09-22-2017 05:11 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote: Why not a full member?
Not a football member.
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - GE and MTS - 09-22-2017 05:51 PM
This is good news. It would have been unfortunate for Liberty to be looking for an all sports home. I don't understand why they are labeled as affiliate though. Is Longwood and the other non-football schools affiliates too?
Big South approves Liberty's waiver - army56mike - 09-22-2017 06:29 PM
Surprised it took this long to announce. The BSC needs LU as much as LU needs the BSC. For now, this is a good match.
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - Curtisc83 - 09-23-2017 03:48 AM
(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)Liberty Fan Wrote:(09-22-2017 05:11 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote: Why not a full member?
Not a football member.
Pretty sure that's not how it works. Campbell was never an associate member. Are we getting shafted in a conference we helped found?
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - Ewglenn - 09-23-2017 08:39 AM
(09-23-2017 03:48 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)Liberty Fan Wrote:(09-22-2017 05:11 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote: Why not a full member?
Not a football member.
Pretty sure that's not how it works. Campbell was never an associate member. Are we getting shafted in a conference we helped found?
I could be wrong but isn't a full member one that all of their scholarship sports that the conference offers are playing in that conference? Like Campbell didn't offer scholarships for football until recently. Winthrop doesn't have football but would be a full. We offer football but play elsewhere.
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - GE and MTS - 09-23-2017 08:52 AM
The NCAA recognizes a school's home conference as the one in which the men's and women's basketball teams are members of. There is a minimum number of sports that a school must be involved with its home conference. By labeling Liberty as affiliates, it implies that the Big South is not the home conference of LU despite the fact that Liberty is only in like two other conferences (field hockey and ice hockey I think). It isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things but it is frustrating to say the least. Doesn't make you want to stick around any longer than you need to.
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - Jacolby757 - 09-23-2017 10:55 AM
(09-23-2017 08:52 AM)GE and MTS Wrote: The NCAA recognizes a school's home conference as the one in which the men's and women's basketball teams are members of. There is a minimum number of sports that a school must be involved with its home conference. By labeling Liberty as affiliates, it implies that the Big South is not the home conference of LU despite the fact that Liberty is only in like two other conferences (field hockey and ice hockey I think). It isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things but it is frustrating to say the least. Doesn't make you want to stick around any longer than you need to.Field hockey - Big East
Swimming - C.... Something weird...
Ice hockey - non scholly
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RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - Jacolby757 - 09-23-2017 10:59 AM
Why does the above argument matter? We still compete for all trophy's individual and team in all BSC sports. What does labeling it "home conference matter?
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RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - Curtisc83 - 09-23-2017 01:19 PM
(09-23-2017 10:59 AM)Jacolby757 Wrote: Why does the above argument matter? We still compete for all trophy's individual and team in all BSC sports. What does labeling it "home conference matter?
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It matters because we can be booted out anytime. And I bet we lose voting rights within the conference. It's a ****** thing to do.
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - NewTimes - 09-24-2017 05:50 AM
(09-23-2017 03:48 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:Purely speculation and hunch. Maybe it's because LU is the only school in this position of being FBS FB while most of it's remaining sports stay in the BS, and that LU can expect to increase their sports budgets, giving an economic, unfair advantage. Sort of like being the rich kid in the neighborhood who has all the toys while the other kids only have a few. Smells of economic unbalance.(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)Liberty Fan Wrote:(09-22-2017 05:11 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote: Why not a full member?
Not a football member.
Pretty sure that's not how it works. Campbell was never an associate member. Are we getting shafted in a conference we helped found?
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - GE and MTS - 09-24-2017 07:43 AM
(09-24-2017 05:50 AM)NewTimes Wrote:(09-23-2017 03:48 AM)Curtisc83 Wrote:Purely speculation and hunch. Maybe it's because LU is the only school in this position of being FBS FB while most of it's remaining sports stay in the BS, and that LU can expect to increase their sports budgets, giving an economic, unfair advantage. Sort of like being the rich kid in the neighborhood who has all the toys while the other kids only have a few. Smells of economic unbalance.(09-22-2017 05:27 PM)Liberty Fan Wrote:(09-22-2017 05:11 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote: Why not a full member?
Not a football member.
Pretty sure that's not how it works. Campbell was never an associate member. Are we getting shafted in a conference we helped found?
But what's keeping other schools from spending all the money they want? The only difference is that Liberty has the money to spend while the other schools don't. It would be punishing LU for being rich which doesn't make sense. I don't think that is the reason for LU's affiliate status. After all, Campbell had football but didn't play it in the Big South but wasn't considered affiliate which is exactly the same situation as LU finds itself in now but is considered affiliate.
RE: Big South approves Liberty's waiver - OrangeCamel - 10-11-2017 08:17 PM
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Sorry to reply to an aged post but I just now read it....Liberty did not "help found" the Big South. It was added several years later after the original Georgia schools moved back to D-II.